Rude Bus-Driver
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Originally posted by Rock^Star:
Some bus stops have only one bus service and that would be ok if you don't flag. The BC would alrdy know that people at the bus stop wld definitely be waiting for his bus. I have done it many times at my own bus stop feeder service.
But those with many buses, it's polite to flag. Cos it doesnt mean that if you are at the bus stop, stand up and walk towards the bay, would automatically mean the BC understands you want to board the bus.
how much effort will it take for you to flag?
you rather not flag and the bus skips the stop?
Rightly speaking the BC is not at fault when he skips your stop. its idiots like CERTAIN PEOPLE that make the BC in deep shit by not cooperating.
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Originally posted by Rock^Star:
I think u may have missed the point here. Qn is: the BC angry with you for not flagging? Not a matter of whether it's understood if u wana board the bus when u are at the doorstep.
the purpose of flagging the bus is to let the BC stop for you to board. in my case the driver was rude. theres no need to scold. if by not flagging the BC have that common sense to understand i need to board the bus, theres no need to be scolding thereafter. its v unnecessary. otherwise, the BC if he is really that dumb he can just drive past me since he doesnt understand i want to board even if i am at the door. -
Originally posted by jayh272416:
how much effort will it take for you to flag?
you rather not flag and the bus skips the stop?
Rightly speaking the BC is not at fault when he skips your stop. its idiots like CERTAIN PEOPLE that make the BC in deep shit by not cooperating.
if the BC skip the stop because u didnt flag, even if theres only one service in that stop u cannot blame the BC for not stopping. that said, there are some BC who have the common sense to stop as long as theres someone at that one service stop.but then again there are those who are polite enough to horn or stop for the passenger even if there has been no flagging. even if its the commuters fault in some cases, never does the commuter deserve any scolding from rude BCs.
the issue here is not how much effort it takes to flag. it is the rude BC wasting his effort by scolding the commuter.
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firstly, you should understand that if you wish to indicate to the bus captain that you wish to board, you should stick your hand out and flag the bus. not stand up and expect the bus captain to stop for you.
i've experienced such things many times in the morning on service 119.
there's always a group of girls from CHIJ, (the sengkang one, 3rd stop away from sengkang int.) who wait at the bus stop right after sengkang int, for service 119. when they see 119 come, they loiter around the kerb of the bus bay, but no one flags the bus. that bus stop is one where the seats are located far away from the actual kerb of the bus bay, and furthermore, many services stop at that bus stop. so naturally, there will be many people standing there.
it is only till those girls see the bus heading straight for the traffic junction, before they start running. and it's always the same few girls. the bc says the same thing to them. sometimes it's not the fault of the BC. they don't purposely take notice of potential passengers waiting at a stop. so it's only understandable that they get a scolding, as firstly, they put the safety of standees on the bus at risk, by having the driver apply a large brake pressure to quickly stop the bus. secondly, as the bus always overshoots the bus bay by the time the BC notices the students and stops, it also endangers other road users. and it's a waste of time having the driver look out for potential passengers. that's why it's only understandable when sometimes, you get reprimanded by the drivers.
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Does it mean that I don't flag, the Taxi will stop for me? This applies to all public transport except trains. So you guys think that by looking at the driver, he must stop?
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Originally posted by SBS7484P:
firstly, you should understand that if you wish to indicate to the bus captain that you wish to board, you should stick your hand out and flag the bus. not stand up and expect the bus captain to stop for you.
Yes. There is always this SL on 900 who never stops for people who never flags the bus, even when there is only svc 900 stopping at the bus stops. There were times I flagged his bus and he never stopped for me anyway, so what are you going to expect if you don't flag? -
Originally posted by disappear:
if the BC skip the stop because u didnt flag, even if theres only one service in that stop u cannot blame the BC for not stopping. that said, there are some BC who have the common sense to stop as long as theres someone at that one service stop.but then again there are those who are polite enough to horn or stop for the passenger even if there has been no flagging. even if its the commuters fault in some cases, never does the commuter deserve any scolding from rude BCs.
the issue here is not how much effort it takes to flag. it is the rude BC wasting his effort by scolding the commuter.
If bus-stop is only for commuters, I should not even see people flagging taxi in the bus-stop. I could be in bus-stop resting or waiting for taxi or private bus service or other reasons. Which law in Singapore tells you that being in the bus-stop means boarding the bus? It is rather being considerate to drivers by flagging the bus. If one thinks that there's not a need for flagging a bus, I should see all buses stopping at bus-stop at all times which in terms wasting time. And you guys will start complaining idiot drivers wasting your precious time. Does your hand weigh 100kg to raise up?
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Originally posted by TIB1049L:
Yes. There is always this SL on 900 who never stops for people who never flags the bus, even when there is only svc 900 stopping at the bus stops. There were times I flagged his bus and he never stopped for me anyway, so what are you going to expect if you don't flag?
If someone flags and the driver ignores, it's the driver that's at fault. If someone does not flag, but expects the driver to stop for him/her, then it's definitely the passenger's fault. -
Complaints of such nature would actually be reduced drastically, if only people would bother to freaking stick out their arms and flag the bus if they wish to board. Not stand there and stare at the oncoming bus and expect the driver to stop for you. The driver has many other things to look out for than just you.
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Originally posted by Simple_boi:
Does it mean that I don't flag, the Taxi will stop for me? This applies to all public transport except trains. So you guys think that by looking at the driver, he must stop?
of course not. he/she doesnt need to. but doesnt need to scold the commuter too.at least taxi drivers do not scold their passengers for these little things.and we not talking about taxis anyway.
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Originally posted by disappear:
of course not. he/she doesnt need to. but doesnt need to scold the commuter too.at least taxi drivers do not scold their passengers for these little things.and we not talking about taxis anyway.
At least you flag the bus, drivers are being alert, rather than driver guessing each and everyone in the bus-stop whether which potential communters will board the bus. Each day, driver need guess more than 100 times for this game? -
Originally posted by Simple_boi:
If bus-stop is only for commuters, I should not even see people flagging taxi in the bus-stop. I could be in bus-stop resting or waiting for taxi or private bus service or other reasons. Which law in Singapore tells you that being in the bus-stop means boarding the bus? It is rather being considerate to drivers by flagging the bus. If one thinks that there's not a need for flagging a bus, I should see all buses stopping at bus-stop at all times which in terms wasting time. And you guys will start complaining idiot drivers wasting your precious time. Does your hand weigh 100kg to raise up?
thats not a law, thats common sense!and yes, sometimes it is indeed easier to scold commuters compared with the effort needed to flag the bus.
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Originally posted by Simple_boi:
At least you flag the bus, drivers are being alert, rather than driver guessing each and everyone in the bus-stop whether which potential communters will board the bus. Each day, driver need guess more than 100 times for this game?as i mentioned, if its common sense, no effort is needed to guess.
yes, i never said that when the bus comes passengers dont need to flag. please try to read properly and understand the point which im trying to bring across----rude drivers.
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Originally posted by disappear:
thats not a law, thats common sense!and yes, sometimes it is indeed easier to scold commuters compared with the effort needed to flag the bus.
That would be common sense to flag the bus instead. -
agreed.
those who have no common sense to flag the bus when it comes is another matter from what i have been trying to bring across.
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it doesnt take much effort to flag but for my feeder service, it's understooded bro.
Bus 315. -
Originally posted by disappear:
the purpose of flagging the bus is to let the BC stop for you to board. in my case the driver was rude. theres no need to scold. if by not flagging the BC have that common sense to understand i need to board the bus, theres no need to be scolding thereafter. its v unnecessary. otherwise, the BC if he is really that dumb he can just drive past me since he doesnt understand i want to board even if i am at the door.
yeh driver's rude. But then again, these guys are not highly educated right? I'm not saying that all are equally rude, there are much better ones of cos. Anyway, if some BC asks me to flag, even if in a rude manner, so be it man. It's my fault and I should have flagged anyway. -
Originally posted by Rock^Star:
yeh driver's rude. But then again, these guys are not highly educated right?wth does education have to do with this? elitist?
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Originally posted by Rock^Star:
yeh driver's rude. But then again, these guys are not highly educated right? I'm not saying that all are equally rude, there are much better ones of cos. Anyway, if some BC asks me to flag, even if in a rude manner, so be it man. It's my fault and I should have flagged anyway.
if you cant afford a car or cant be bothered, dont say so much. -
Originally posted by Rock^Star:
it doesnt take much effort to flag but for my feeder service, it's understooded bro.
Bus 315.In fact, sv315 has all along been like that at North Ave 1 bus stop since the NAC (AMDEP) period, but it's best to flag when you're alone, or the bus stop with two or more services. Just a few days ago, a commuter who didn't flag for the bus early at North Ave 4 bus stop nearly miss the bus, he flag only when he realise the bus isn't stopping for him, the brake was hard...
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ok..abit weird idea. maybe have the ts wear the route number ts want to board as a large signboard on his head. then no need to stand up and flag le. BC will see if the route number is their route number then stop for him...
just kidding.
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Originally posted by jayh272416:
if you cant afford a car or cant be bothered, dont say so much.
These days, pple who can "afford" a car are highly in debt. But then again what the fuck's with u? -
Originally posted by n4l:
wth does education have to do with this? elitist?
Not elitist my fren, I'm just stating a general fact. People who are more educated have a higher chance of being socially apt as their work requires it.
Of cos to clarify, i have seen my fair share of chirpy bus drivers who have a good sense of EQ.