PTC QoS report card for PTOs for Jun to Nov '08
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Originally posted by JaSoNhSu92:
shin min daily newspaper got this article alrdy, featuring a WA merc on 63!
SBST still face shortage of BCs maybe another batch of foreign BCs? sbst says it needs more time so the QoS report will be splitted into phases.
SMRT population of BCs is still quite sufficient. more ppl like to drive SMRT buses ah?
Maybe SMRT lesser bus service to control. Thats why the population is quite easy to maintain as compared to SBST. Maybe also better benefits at SMRT.
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I took 190 back from YMCA bus stop yesterday.
Quite a breeze. Compared to the former.
YMCA bus stop is like a bus terminal nowadays for 190.
Approximately every 12 minutes from 500pm to 700pm on weekdays, there's an empty 190, usually a bendy bus, leaving the imaginery bus terminal.
The bus will sometimes park before the ERP gantry if its too early to depart.
Its like the 190A return trip for evening peak.
As for the rest of the times, i still prefer taking 700 home. =) -
Originally posted by JaSoNhSu92:
SMRT population of BCs is still quite sufficient. more ppl like to drive SMRT buses ah?
SMRTB has a more friendly and leinent working environment. -
Oh ya. I don't understand why 966 didnt fail the 95% loading. =X
I think its still quite packed.
One justification for 190. Due to the poor economic downturn, demand for 190 has fallen tremendously on both weekdays and weekends as nobody goes shopping in the city, opting for heartland malls.
The bus is quite empty and there are seats back even if you board from Far East Bus Stop back to CCK. Probably that's the reason.
On Sunday when I boarded 190 from Choa Chu Kang to Orchard, the bendy bus was empty at Bukit Panjang at 230pm. Probably due to rain. -
Originally posted by TIB958U:
SMRTB has a more friendly and leinent working environment.
My foot. -
Originally posted by Junyang700:
I took 190 back from YMCA bus stop yesterday.
Quite a breeze. Compared to the former.
YMCA bus stop is like a bus terminal nowadays for 190.
Approximately every 12 minutes from 500pm to 700pm on weekdays, there's an empty 190, usually a bendy bus, leaving the imaginery bus terminal.
The bus will sometimes park before the ERP gantry if its too early to depart.
Its like the 190A return trip for evening peak.
As for the rest of the times, i still prefer taking 700 home. =)
Anyone knows when did SMRTB start doing this? -
Originally posted by TIB958U:
Anyone knows when did SMRTB start doing this?I found out about it sometime back last year.
So should be last year? -
Originally posted by Oceane:
My foot.
Really sorry then. -
Imaginary bus terminals in Bukit Panjang
190 - Blk 223 Bus Stop (Bukit Panjang) >>> Choa Chu Kang Interchange
190 starts trip from that bus stop every 5 minutes from 615am to 645am on weekdays towards Choa Chu Kang.
963 - Blk 223 Bus Stop (Bukit Panjang) >>> Harbourfront Interchange
963 also has buses departing from this imaginery bus terminal from around 0700am to 1000am.
960 - Blk 601 Bus Stop (Bukit Panjang) >>> Marina Centre Terminal
Not completely clear about this but there are buses starting trips from this bus stop in the late morning.
700 - Opp Blk 201 Bus Stop (Bukit Panjang) >>> Bukit Panjang Interchange
600 am to 700am (Trips before the 1st 700 reaches Bukit Panjang from Shenton Way.) -
Originally posted by TIB958U:
Really sorry then. I shall deal with someone who gave me wrong information
Working environment is horrible, the drivers are in 2 groups of people, 1 is the type that likes to drive very fast, 1 is the type that likes to drive very slow. Very imminent in feeder services where the headway becomes very prolonged because 1 driver speeds very fast and the one behind decides to die-die stick to his timesheet and gets pushed back due to 150% passenger crowd. As a result the original schedule goes haywire until the break times come in (in feeders you drive for about 2 hours and rest 15 min so for that 2 hours the headway is very very very unstable.)Standbys used to have 4 slots per week as ODW slots, now left 2, I even seen 1 before, means the rest of the week that driver rots away in the interchange.
PRCs anyhow drive buses, time to speed he slows down (when there is nothing in front), reach traffic light he chiong past (when the light is amber). They like to play with time, purposely lambat so that they get to downroute, while other drivers suffer because of their inconsiderate actions.
Timekeepers hardly use their common sense; poor driver lambats 35 mins (90% of mealbreak gone) and he asks the driver to get a quick bite and then continue driving (by definition of "continue driving" means 2 mins break and off you go again), driver lambats 5 mins and he asks the driver to do downroute (5 stops outside other interchange). Half the time they are dozing off in their comfortable air-conditioned office and they hardly care about inconsiderate drivers (like PRCs as mentioned above) until when I had to personally tell him off that he's messing up everyone's schedule because he anyhow pull their time. Then he go "Oh, that driver in front purposely lambat one ah? I didn't know!"
So it isn't really nice working for SMRT. Though the pay is quite ok and working hours are very comfortable, but half of the driver population are black sheeps. I believe it applies alot to SBST also.
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Originally posted by Oceane:
Working environment is horrible, the drivers are in 2 groups of people, 1 is the type that likes to drive very fast, 1 is the type that likes to drive very slow. Very imminent in feeder services where the headway becomes very prolonged because 1 driver speeds very fast and the one behind decides to die-die stick to his timesheet and gets pushed back due to 150% passenger crowd. As a result the original schedule goes haywire until the break times come in (in feeders you drive for about 2 hours and rest 15 min so for that 2 hours the headway is very very very unstable.)Standbys used to have 4 slots per week as ODW slots, now left 2, I even seen 1 before, means the rest of the week that driver rots away in the interchange.
PRCs anyhow drive buses, time to speed he slows down (when there is nothing in front), reach traffic light he chiong past (when the light is amber). They like to play with time, purposely lambat so that they get to downroute, while other drivers suffer because of their inconsiderate actions.
Timekeepers hardly use their common sense; driver lambats 35 mins and he asks the driver to continue driving, driver lambats 5 mins and he asks the driver to do downroute. Half the time they are dozing off in their comfortable air-conditioned office and they hardly care about inconsiderate drivers (like PRCs as mentioned above) until when I had to personally tell him off that he's messing up everyone's schedule because he anyhow pull their time. Then he go "Oh, that driver in front purposely lambat one ah? I didn't know!"
So it isn't really nice working for SMRT. Though the pay is quite ok and working hours are very comfortable, but half of the driver population are black sheeps. I believe it applies alot to SBST also.
An eye opener for me, thanks alot for telling me what is actually happening. -
Originally posted by Oceane:
Working environment is horrible, the drivers are in 2 groups of people, 1 is the type that likes to drive very fast, 1 is the type that likes to drive very slow. Very imminent in feeder services where the headway becomes very prolonged because 1 driver speeds very fast and the one behind decides to die-die stick to his timesheet and gets pushed back due to 150% passenger crowd. As a result the original schedule goes haywire until the break times come in (in feeders you drive for about 2 hours and rest 15 min so for that 2 hours the headway is very very very unstable.)Standbys used to have 4 slots per week as ODW slots, now left 2, I even seen 1 before, means the rest of the week that driver rots away in the interchange.
PRCs anyhow drive buses, time to speed he slows down (when there is nothing in front), reach traffic light he chiong past (when the light is amber). They like to play with time, purposely lambat so that they get to downroute, while other drivers suffer because of their inconsiderate actions.
Timekeepers hardly use their common sense; poor driver lambats 35 mins (90% of mealbreak gone) and he asks the driver to get a quick bite and then continue driving (by definition of "continue driving" means 2 mins break and off you go again), driver lambats 5 mins and he asks the driver to do downroute (5 stops outside other interchange). Half the time they are dozing off in their comfortable air-conditioned office and they hardly care about inconsiderate drivers (like PRCs as mentioned above) until when I had to personally tell him off that he's messing up everyone's schedule because he anyhow pull their time. Then he go "Oh, that driver in front purposely lambat one ah? I didn't know!"
So it isn't really nice working for SMRT. Though the pay is quite ok and working hours are very comfortable, but half of the driver population are black sheeps. I believe it applies alot to SBST also.
wow...i didnt know such things happen...what penalties do they have if they catch the timekeepers slacking like that? -
Originally posted by SBS7382C:
wow...i didnt know such things happen...what penalties do they have if they catch the timekeepers slacking like that?
Obviously demerits. But they hardly check, thats why many get away scot-free. -
sbst is no better anyway. except the prcs are the one bullied (:
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SMRT's 190 I always see full esp e rigids but always never get into e report.
Sv 90, 246?
246's AM peak freq super cmi.. 90 SBS might reason cos it's single diretion demand during peak hrs As for 196, it's time to question why 608 was allowed to be withdrawn
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Originally posted by Junyang700:
Imaginary bus terminals in Bukit Panjang
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Originally posted by Junyang700:
Oh ya. I don't understand why 966 didnt fail the 95% loading. =X
I think its still quite packed.Maybe due to its off peak hours?
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high time to get DDs (for SMRT) or more DDs (for SBST).
Also its time to consider buying some smaller capacity DDs similar to HK 2-axle DDs air-con buses; to fill in the gap between SDs and 3-axle DDs.
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Originally posted by sbst275:
SMRT's 190 I always see full esp e rigids but always never get into e report.
Sv 90, 246?
246's AM peak freq super cmi.. 90 SBS
might reason cos it's single diretion demand during peak hrs
As for 196, it's time to question why 608 was allowed to be withdrawn
Believe 608 was profitable, but SMRT needed the buses for routes which were more high yield and generate more revenue, which is not really very surprising given their constraints.
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Originally posted by Junyang700:
Imaginary bus terminals in Bukit Panjang
190 - Blk 223 Bus Stop (Bukit Panjang) >>> Choa Chu Kang Interchange
190 starts trip from that bus stop every 5 minutes from 615am to 645am on weekdays towards Choa Chu Kang.
Talking about that, I really do hope that the 190's 10 rigid permers would get replaced by more bendys (maybe from AMDEP?).. -
Originally posted by Fryderyk HPH:
Believe 608 was profitable, but SMRT needed the buses for routes which were more high yield and generate more revenue, which is not really very surprising given their constraints.
With more OC500LE buses now + those yet to arrive, maybe SMRT can consider re-introducing Service 608 with maybe some ammendments or maybe as a peak hour service? This will introduce some form of competition between SBST and SMRTB which is what the LTA wants to introduce. -
Originally posted by TIB958U:
With more OC500LE buses now + those yet to arrive, maybe SMRT can consider re-introducing Service 608 with maybe some ammendments or maybe as a peak hour service? This will introduce some form of competition between SBST and SMRTB which is what the LTA wants to introduce.I dun think can already liao... SBST extended sv. 16... Essentially a duplicate all the way. PTC wouldn't agree liao...
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Originally posted by TIB958U:
With more OC500LE buses now + those yet to arrive, maybe SMRT can consider re-introducing Service 608 with maybe some ammendments or maybe as a peak hour service? This will introduce some form of competition between SBST and SMRTB which is what the LTA wants to introduce.
Hopefully before the govt take over route planning. If 608 is reintroduced, it'll defintely be renumbered (908? lol) and likely some route admendments. -
Originally posted by SBS8533C:
its Featured on the straits times today. Front Page, Home section
Zaobao also, and there is photo of SBS9494A (BB 196) on page 4.
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Originally posted by Junyang700:
Imaginary bus terminals in Bukit Panjang
190 - Blk 223 Bus Stop (Bukit Panjang) >>> Choa Chu Kang Interchange
190 starts trip from that bus stop every 5 minutes from 615am to 645am on weekdays towards Choa Chu Kang.
960 - Blk 601 Bus Stop (Bukit Panjang) >>> Marina Centre Terminal
Not completely clear about this but there are buses starting trips from this bus stop in the late morning.add on...
190 - Blk 604 Bus Stop (Bukit Panjang) >>> New Bridge Road Terminal
190 starts trip from that bus stop (not sure the frequency for this downroute) for their 1st (and maybe 2nd also) bus, and also around 7am ++ whereby some 190 buses together with the crossover for 307 and 180 will start doing downroute from there on weekdays towards New Bridge Rd. Not sure for weekends because I never observe for that..IIRC, the 1st bus for 190 from there should be 5:45am (as compared to the 1st bus from CCK Int which is 5:50am).
As for your 960 one, late morning I saw it once or twice but confirm the 1st bus will start downroute there too... 960's 1st bus from there is 5:35am iirc...