Has anyone ever waited for a bus for more than 45 minutes?
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Originally posted by Fantagf:
what are the reasons? what reasons did bus companies give? must be something that cause this.
O ok. Give you an example Why not you try driving a Leyland Olympian 3 Axle with full load everyday and lot of turns? Try driving 143 or 157. Better still, drive the Leyland Olympian 3 axle for a month straight without any off day.See if you ever think a BC job is so easy just to drive or what le.
and hello BCs are humans, not robots. Bus companies don't ill treat employees or their BCs. Buses also get stuck in jams, kena lambat, accident, passenger safety, dealing with passengers who cause trouble. So we should at least be abit more understanding to the BCs who are working hard to keep to the schedule de. If you have BC friends you'll understand.
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Originally posted by TIB537B:
O ok. Give you an example Why not you try driving a Leyland Olympian 3 Axle with full load everyday and lot of turns? Try driving 143 or 157. Better still, drive the Leyland Olympian 3 axle for a month straight without any off day.See if you ever think a BC job is so easy just to drive or what le.
and hello BCs are humans, not robots. Bus companies don't ill treat employees or their BCs. Buses also get stuck in jams, kena lambat, accident, passenger safety, dealing with passengers who cause trouble. So we should at least be abit more understanding to the BCs who are working hard to keep to the schedule de. If you have BC friends you'll understand.
relax. he/she/it is a robot.
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925.. the one that went to Lim Chu Kang...
waited for like 50 mins man... sit on the metal railing at the interchange until backside pain
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go lim chu kang is it 975? you wait at where? bt panjang int?
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1 hour 20 min+++
961
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Originally posted by Scania N113CRB luver:
My friend.
He waited from 8.15am till 8.45am for both 75 and
184. He needs to skip 5 buses during these times because its packed
to the door all the way. End up he wait until he's late for sch.
I waited for 35mins for 161 before at WRI, during this year march or april. SLE got major accident, end up all the 161 and 168 buses stucked in SLE. Then 2703T came first, but when i was about to board from the long queue, bus filled up oredi. End up wait for another 10mins. 9508U came and took all passengers.I take that both bus straigh from the interchange or one stop after the interchange
normally by then will be pack le... lol
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yes 925 is always very long...
927 also... wtf... they wrote the time on the "tv" but still always late at the interchange... always make me late for work...
imagine, i need 2 hour of travel time to go work from school when it is from the west to the west only... wth...
then my manager will complain why so late... if lucky they will, "wha today so early" which in fact i left house the same time everyday!
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Originally posted by sbs8104h:
SBS8174E on 57-Last week. Waited for 45 minutes to come from my school(BHSS)to my place. Sekali 3 KUBS arrive at the same time.
Why do buses come in threes?
March 26, 2001
Buses on Quantum Schedules
Anyone who has waited for a bus in the city has probably casually observed that, after an inordinately long wait, two or three buses often come along at the same time.
The question of why such bunching seems to happen has prompted all sorts of speculation. Some claim that bus bunching is actually a rare occurrence, but passengers tend to forget the much larger number of times when a single bus arrives. Others posit that bus drivers simply like to travel in packs.
Mathematical models that simulate traffic flow confirm that bus bunching is a real phenomenon. Even though buses leave their depot at regular intervals, the number of passengers standing at bus stops along a route can vary considerably. The unpredictability in the number of passengers assembled at a given stop has a strong effect on a bus's timeliness.
Suppose, for instance, that a large group of passengers happens to cluster at a particular stop. It takes longer than normal for the passengers to board the first bus that arrives, so the bus behind it catches up a little. When the second bus arrives at the stop, there would have been less time for more passengers to assemble, so the bus goes on its way quickly. Meanwhile, the lead bus arrives at its next stop later than normal, so there would have been more time for additional passengers to join the crowd. After several more stops, the second bus inevitably catches up with the first.
Once one bus catches up with the other, the two buses act as if they were a single bus. If the route is a long one, a third bus could eventually catch up with the first two.
Bus transport in Cuernavaca, Mexico, operates differently. Although passengers wait at bus stops along specified routes, there are no schedules. Drivers own their buses and compete for passengers. To pick up as many passengers as possible, they constantly slow down or speed up, depending on the number of other buses in the vicinity. Indeed, drivers even employ people to stand at checkpoints along a route and tell them when the last bus left a particular area so they can adjust their speed accordingly, staying far enough behind the preceding bus without letting the following bus catch up.
Despite the apparently chaotic transport system, there is a sort of statistical order in the collective behavior of the vehicles. Physicists Petr Seba and Milan Krbalek of the Czech Academy of Sciences have found that Cuernavaca buses move about like randomly interacting subatomic particles. This activity can be described in terms of mathematical expressions called random matrices, which were originally used to describe the quantum energy levels of large atoms or heavy atomic nuclei.
In the 1970s, theoretical physicists started to use sets of random matrices (with certain, specified properties) as mathematical models of complex quantum systems. In a random matrix, the rows and columns are filled with numbers randomly selected from a normal, or Gaussian, distribution. (Imagine randomly choosing numbered balls from an urn, in which certain numbers are represented more often than others.) By solving a sufficiently large random matrix, physicists can determine a system's "typical" energy levels. Combining the results of many such calculations, they can come up with statistical laws about those energy levels.
Seba and Krbalek applied random matrix theory to the arrival times of Cuernavaca buses. They recorded a total of 3,500 arrivals during a period of 27 days at a spot near the city's center on one particular bus route.
The researchers modeled the buses as a one-dimensional gas--particles moving and interacting along a line. "Although this system is far from being of quantum origin, the fluctuations in the time intervals between subsequent buses arriving at a given bus stop display exactly the same features as observed in the chaotic quantum transport," Seba says. In effect, there is much less clustering than observed for buses operating according to a rigid timetable.
Seba argues that the unregulated Mexican buses actually get passengers where they need to go more efficiently than buses run on inflexible schedules.
Other studies suggest that statistics based on random matrix theory may also apply to variations in distance between cars on German highways. Interestingly, mathematicians have themselves applied random matrix theory to such questions as the distribution of prime numbers and the possible arrangements of shuffled playing cards.
Copyright 2001 by Ivars Peterson
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I like this article!
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next time we should just have darts. 3 darts bunched together would be enough! :lol:
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got 852 waited for 1 hr
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Originally posted by deepak.c:
Why do buses come in threes?
March 26, 2001
Buses on Quantum Schedules
Anyone who has waited for a bus in the city has probably casually observed that, after an inordinately long wait, two or three buses often come along at the same time.
The question of why such bunching seems to happen has prompted all sorts of speculation. Some claim that bus bunching is actually a rare occurrence, but passengers tend to forget the much larger number of times when a single bus arrives. Others posit that bus drivers simply like to travel in packs.
Mathematical models that simulate traffic flow confirm that bus bunching is a real phenomenon. Even though buses leave their depot at regular intervals, the number of passengers standing at bus stops along a route can vary considerably. The unpredictability in the number of passengers assembled at a given stop has a strong effect on a bus's timeliness.
Suppose, for instance, that a large group of passengers happens to cluster at a particular stop. It takes longer than normal for the passengers to board the first bus that arrives, so the bus behind it catches up a little. When the second bus arrives at the stop, there would have been less time for more passengers to assemble, so the bus goes on its way quickly. Meanwhile, the lead bus arrives at its next stop later than normal, so there would have been more time for additional passengers to join the crowd. After several more stops, the second bus inevitably catches up with the first.
Once one bus catches up with the other, the two buses act as if they were a single bus. If the route is a long one, a third bus could eventually catch up with the first two.
Bus transport in Cuernavaca, Mexico, operates differently. Although passengers wait at bus stops along specified routes, there are no schedules. Drivers own their buses and compete for passengers. To pick up as many passengers as possible, they constantly slow down or speed up, depending on the number of other buses in the vicinity. Indeed, drivers even employ people to stand at checkpoints along a route and tell them when the last bus left a particular area so they can adjust their speed accordingly, staying far enough behind the preceding bus without letting the following bus catch up.
Despite the apparently chaotic transport system, there is a sort of statistical order in the collective behavior of the vehicles. Physicists Petr Seba and Milan Krbalek of the Czech Academy of Sciences have found that Cuernavaca buses move about like randomly interacting subatomic particles. This activity can be described in terms of mathematical expressions called random matrices, which were originally used to describe the quantum energy levels of large atoms or heavy atomic nuclei.
In the 1970s, theoretical physicists started to use sets of random matrices (with certain, specified properties) as mathematical models of complex quantum systems. In a random matrix, the rows and columns are filled with numbers randomly selected from a normal, or Gaussian, distribution. (Imagine randomly choosing numbered balls from an urn, in which certain numbers are represented more often than others.) By solving a sufficiently large random matrix, physicists can determine a system's "typical" energy levels. Combining the results of many such calculations, they can come up with statistical laws about those energy levels.
Seba and Krbalek applied random matrix theory to the arrival times of Cuernavaca buses. They recorded a total of 3,500 arrivals during a period of 27 days at a spot near the city's center on one particular bus route.
The researchers modeled the buses as a one-dimensional gas--particles moving and interacting along a line. "Although this system is far from being of quantum origin, the fluctuations in the time intervals between subsequent buses arriving at a given bus stop display exactly the same features as observed in the chaotic quantum transport," Seba says. In effect, there is much less clustering than observed for buses operating according to a rigid timetable.
Seba argues that the unregulated Mexican buses actually get passengers where they need to go more efficiently than buses run on inflexible schedules.
Other studies suggest that statistics based on random matrix theory may also apply to variations in distance between cars on German highways. Interestingly, mathematicians have themselves applied random matrix theory to such questions as the distribution of prime numbers and the possible arrangements of shuffled playing cards.
Copyright 2001 by Ivars Peterson
the whole point is?
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unless you can tell me that Shenton Way area up to Little India there got massive jam that resulted in 3 buses bunch up at 3pm
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Originally posted by sbs8104h:
the whole point is?
Everything have some law lol.Like in computing, they have Moore's Law.
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wad is there to argue about -.-
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Originally posted by service_238:
I like this article!
x2. :Drandom particles. hahah
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Originally posted by ^tamago^:
next time we should just have darts. 3 darts bunched together would be enough!
3 darts = 1.something bendies -
Originally posted by TIB537B:
Everything have some law lol.Like in computing, they have Moore's Law.
ok? he can just summarize instead of putting the whole chunk of words here(Not flamming).
it will look neater that way
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Originally posted by sbs8104h:
ok? he can just summarize instead of putting the whole chunk of words here(Not flamming).
it will look neater that way
Or maybe bold the key points?OT abit : i do that when i copy the whole Today article to the Buses in Newspapers and STOMP thread. Bold the key points.
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Originally posted by TIB537B:
Or maybe bold the key points?OT abit : i do that when i copy the whole Today article to the Buses in Newspapers and STOMP thread. Bold the key points.
ya... it looks better than having thw whole chunk there.
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Take train la.. Dedicated way and better control. Sometimes bus is really cmi.
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Originally posted by TIB537B:
O ok. Give you an example Why not you try driving a Leyland Olympian 3 Axle with full load everyday and lot of turns? Try driving 143 or 157. Better still, drive the Leyland Olympian 3 axle for a month straight without any off day.
if BC are used to it, they are alright with it. -
Seriously, if you find that you have problems reading long articles, as in having dyslexia. The article wasn't meant for folks with dyslexia, if you have problems reading it, you should seek medical advice.
DON'T READ!!!!
It's not like as if somebody put a knife to your balls to force you to read.
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Originally posted by sbs8104h:
ya... it looks better than having thw whole chunk there.
I take it to the plain fact that you are lazy to read the article. Its not very long, neither its very short. Spend 3minutes reading wont kill you. -
LOL.. Off peak and u all wait for public bus is asking for trouble!
Luckily I don't depend on bus liao..
Since my poly days of wating for a stupid 157 for 50mins, I know SBS bus are rubbish and tell myself. Never I will depend on it.
I rather take cab.