Originally posted by QX179R:Talisman on bus: To protect passengers or ward off ghosts?
TIB664S also.
Originally posted by TIB657M:
TIB664S also.
I saw it before , don't know put there for what. It's at the back of the bus.
Originally posted by jayh272416:lol? i didnt know 3765H had such a big pic of the goddess lol....
3756 used to have one small one beside the SV88 sticker. hah.
Originally posted by SMB66X:
bc = rude was one thing
but stroller =/= wheelchair. it still has some kid sleeping in it. not like its folded up or smth. auntie also partly wrong for doing this. honestly i haven't seen people bringing strollers with kids sleepin in it on buses. .
Originally posted by SMB66X:
i find the article very 'one sided story'.
Originally posted by Stage:
3756 used to have one small one beside the SV88 sticker. hah.
776X i saw the pic is at the dashboard on top of the timesheet.Tat one i tink tat particular BC put it,not permanently there.
We can make one whole list of buses wit those pics if we go on talking abt tis.Haha cuz almost any bus has them..
Originally posted by SMB66X:
Nw can see many of tis type of stories alr..I wonder wat is happening =.=
Originally posted by SMB66X:
First time I heard of the claim that a stroller was refused outright.
Regulations state that strollers (1) cannot justify for the use for WAB ramp, and (2) are okay onboard so long they're folded.
I've also seen strollers on board non-WABs, so long the mother/guardian is able to secure it onboard. BC close one eye unless he deems its presence is unsafe.
Refusing to fold up the stroller and then getting into a dispute is a more likely scenario to me. But that's for SBST to find out what actually happened.
Originally posted by sgbuses:First time I heard of the claim that a stroller was refused outright.
Regulations state that strollers (1) cannot justify for the use for WAB ramp, and (2) are okay onboard so long they're folded.
I've also seen strollers on board non-WABs, so long the mother/guardian is able to secure it onboard. BC close one eye unless he deems its presence is unsafe.
Refusing to fold up the stroller and then getting into a dispute is a more likely scenario to me. But that's for SBST to find out what actually happened.
it is point (2) which is why the BC disallowed the stroller to be brought up unless they fold the kid in
My 55 Cents:
Got standee space and it is not filled with people, stroller is allowed on bus.
Originally posted by TownLink 291:My 55 Cents:
Got standee space and it is not filled with people, stroller is allowed on bus.
stroller is allowed, but need to be folded.. actually recently also got an article in ST Forum. i posted the link before. next time, SBST will print sticker and paste on windscreen.. - no Open Stroller on bus... :)
http://www.straitstimes.com/STForum/OnlineStory/STIStory_480367.html
read through the comments given by ST forum user.. cut and paste some comments/fact
http://www.sbstransit.com.sg/doyouknow/facts_bus.aspx#6
"Are prams/strollers allowed on board the bus?
Yes, they are but they must be folded up when travelling on our buses
for safety reasons. In an emergency braking situation, opened prams can
pose as safety hazards to both the child within and fellow passengers
around as it can be thrown forward. As passenger safety is important to
us, we do not allow opened prams/strollers on board our buses. "
I refused as I did not see the rationale. Why can wheelchairs be taken aboard the bus but strollers cannot? Moreover, the bus was practically empty and there were no wheelchair passengers on board. |
i'm not sure if you did not or could not/did not want to see. you obviously can't fold a wheelchair when it is occupied by a disabled person but you can pick up the baby and fold the stroller, which otherwise not only takes up space (just bec the bus isn't crowded at point of boarding doesn't mean it can't get crowded along the way - this is sg, mind you!) but is also dangerous bec in sg there is nothing to strap the stroller/wheelchair to a fixed point. moreover, the wheelchair-bound person may be able to hold on to the railing next to him/her, certainly not the baby.
Poor Driver, get paid $1,300 per month, need to drive bus, riskhimself from assault, able provide direction to lost passengers in multi language, know company policy at the back of his head, help passenger to carry baby pram, reason with unreasonable PRC family... give him a break...
Originally posted by QX179R:Talisman on bus: To protect passengers or ward off ghosts?
how come so far no cross one. LOL
Originally posted by lemon1974:stroller is allowed, but need to be folded.. actually recently also got an article in ST Forum. i posted the link before. next time, SBST will print sticker and paste on windscreen.. - no Open Stroller on bus... :)
http://www.straitstimes.com/STForum/OnlineStory/STIStory_480367.html
read through the comments given by ST forum user.. cut and paste some comments/fact
http://www.sbstransit.com.sg/doyouknow/facts_bus.aspx#6
"Are prams/strollers allowed on board the bus?
Yes, they are but they must be folded up when travelling on our buses for safety reasons. In an emergency braking situation, opened prams can pose as safety hazards to both the child within and fellow passengers around as it can be thrown forward. As passenger safety is important to us, we do not allow opened prams/strollers on board our buses. "Quote:I refused as I did not see the rationale. Why can wheelchairs be taken aboard the bus but strollers cannot? Moreover, the bus was practically empty and there were no wheelchair passengers on board.i'm not sure if you did not or could not/did not want to see. you obviously can't fold a wheelchair when it is occupied by a disabled person but you can pick up the baby and fold the stroller, which otherwise not only takes up space (just bec the bus isn't crowded at point of boarding doesn't mean it can't get crowded along the way - this is sg, mind you!) but is also dangerous bec in sg there is nothing to strap the stroller/wheelchair to a fixed point. moreover, the wheelchair-bound person may be able to hold on to the railing next to him/her, certainly not the baby.
Poor Driver, get paid $1,300 per month, need to drive bus, riskhimself from assault, able provide direction to lost passengers in multi language, know company policy at the back of his head, help passenger to carry baby pram, reason with unreasonable PRC family... give him a break...
I disagree with the last part in brown.
I'll break it down here so we all get a better understanding.
you obviously can't fold a wheelchair when it is occupied by a disabled person
True.
pick up the baby and fold the stroller
OK, let's see how many different scenarios I can make of this one.
1: While waiting for the bus, put the baby on a seat (nearly impossible these days with those thin metal seats) and then fold the stroller (that requires two hands). What if, the baby rolled off the seat? Let's not forget this is a single person we're talking about.
You can say, ask members of the public to help. Will they? Some Singaporeans are nice about it and may even offer without asking. But more often than not, they're not very nice.
2: So baby cradled in one arm, stroller in the other. How is she going to tap the card? Moreover, it's a sleeping baby - she's not gonna tap the card while the baby's in her arms and then let the ear-blastingly loud BEEP wake the baby?
3: Roll onboard the bus - then fold. But the driver already disallows her from doing so.
I think things like these should be viewed on a case by case basis. If it's a regular stepped bus like our Volvos and O405's, then rolling a pram up is unreasonable. B10M's have no standee space, and while the O405's have standee space, it isn't quite as big or wide as a KUB's or B9's. So on a WAB bus that is practically empty then I think it's OK to let prams on.
Companies should be more flexible in handling matters like this.
And on other matters like the one where the bus was being held up for hours due to an unreasonable passenger, that should be taken care of in a stern and professional manner. And I don't mean free taxi ride to shut them up. Wheelchairs are bigger than prams (I'm comparing the 2 instances here), and even then, that's not a WAB bus with the proper facilities. In the news picture I didn't see said mother on wheelchair on board the bus, so I guess said PRC's haven't actually carried said mother on.
I'd like to see them do that without actually having the wheelchair get stuck at the turning after the doors, or without it crashing into something.
Yeah, yeah, wheelchair has brakes, some might say, but given the O405's 'rolly' character I'll see if it can stay straight while BC makes a wide turn.
they shouldnt have started with all these WAB nonsense in the first place anw. hah.
I agreed that it should be folded up when boarded the bus.
Due to space constraint. And pple might accidently kick and knock into it casuing hurt.
If I really carry baby and tram, I rather take taxi or better still take mrt.
Originally posted by XD2229P:This uncle is so at home on the bus
So inconsiderate.........
Originally posted by XD2229P:This uncle is so at home on the bus
always fell that this is always t\like those aunties that put their bags on the seat beside theirs...
sv198 kenna complained in e TNP ytd.
person complained abt freq, unable to board n having too many SD during peak periods
Originally posted by AEW5001:sv198 kenna complained in e TNP ytd.
person complained abt freq, unable to board n having too many SD during peak periods
but there's only 5 SDs at most. with the other 20 DDs.
hard-to-please pax.
Originally posted by sinicker:but there's only 5 SDs at most. with the other 20 DDs.
hard-to-please pax.
i believe e jumpbus for sv198 is causig problems.
Boy in uniform lies down on bus seats