Originally posted by sbst275:
I'm saying this again, where are you going to find buses overnight when all those projects complete? You say 502 go bi-directional w/ 15 mins freq, ok.. But later dun kpkb tat why Tuas cannot get new bus svs or why cannot have new bus svs for Seletar.The MRT cannot be everywhere being costly. So you telling me govt build dedicated MRT line for Seletar Aerospace Hub, NTU, SUTD?? Unless you dun mind paying more tax or higher fares. MRT can never fully replace buses.
If you do not know, it's faster to take Sv 7 to Clementi vs MRT. Not to mention 111 to Queenstown.
More bus means more job opportunities.Similarly more bus service means more job opportunities. Just a call to china, they can supply u 100 over ppl to take up the job. I had been in the recruitment line before, i dun see any issue with it. I am satisfied with the new route and I dun need 502 to go bi-directional. This is a matter of time, ppl will get use.
Can u tell me the freq for service 7 ? MRT freq more consistent or bus? MRT may have human jam but bus will meet traffic jam, human jam. What u say, maybe bus 7 will be faster in the night. Pls do not look this issue in a bus fan attitude, which one is faster and least chances to jam we all know.
Pls stop using kbkp, u cry father cry mother is ur problem. Even taiwanese can think of another word to use.
Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
More bus means more job opportunities.Similarly more bus service means more job opportunities. Just a call to china, they can supply u 100 over ppl to take up the job. I had been in the recruitment line before, i dun see any issue with it. I am satisfied with the new route and I dun need 502 to go bi-directional. This is a matter of time, ppl will get use.Can u tell me the freq for service 7 ? MRT freq more consistent or bus? MRT may have human jam but bus will meet traffic jam, human jam. What u say, maybe bus 7 will be faster in the night. Pls do not look this issue in a bus fan attitude, which one is faster and least chances to jam we all know.
Pls stop using kbkp, u cry father cry mother is ur problem. Even taiwanese can think of another word to use.
True. But which young local wants to drive these days? Actually it's been a issue all these while if one ever read MM Lee's books over SBS.
We could get drivers from M'sia or PRC, but issue is the turnover rate for latter we do not know yet. At e same time all fleet addition are gradual, we can't do it overnight.
Even my friend in LTA would agree w/ me over Sv 7. I think u own yourself over Ulu Pandan Rd before over 502. Since it's usually congested free, isn't it benefical for Sv 7? As for Eastern side, there's a thing call bus lane.
As for MRT, MRT freq these days aren't consistent either. Peak hr also affected, suddenly 1 min, suddenly 6 mins, suddenly 4 mins.
I'm not looking in bus fan world, I'm looking for overall travel needs. LTA can also tell you bus are useful as quite a big chunk of connection is faster by bus.
as for MRT versus buses.
I'll mention this even to those in SMRT who keeps on thinking buses overall are useless than MRT.
It's only densely populated cities tat no choice gotta invest millions into excavating tunnels to build MRT. Not many country as rich either to invest this amt of money upfront.
Elsewhere everyone goes for BRT because it's so versatile n cheaper to operate. Versatile as in it's fast like MRT w/ dedicated bus lanes and can also function as a bus serving minor bus stops for non express routes.
Originally posted by sbst275:
True. But which young local wants to drive these days? Actually it's been a issue all these while if one ever read MM Lee's books over SBS.We could get drivers from M'sia or PRC, but issue is the turnover rate for latter we do not know yet. At e same time all fleet addition are gradual, we can't do it overnight.
Even my friend in LTA bus planning would agree w/ me over Sv 7. I think u own yourself over Ulu Pandan Rd before over 502. Since it's usually congested free, isn't it benefical for Sv 7? As for Eastern side, there's a thing call bus lane.
As for MRT, MRT freq these days aren't consistent either. Peak hr also affected, suddenly 1 min, suddenly 6 mins, suddenly 4 mins.
I'm not looking in bus fan world, I'm looking for overall travel needs. LTA can also tell you bus are useful as quite a big chunk of connection is faster by bus.
" which young local wants to drive these days?" U should ask why are there so many cars on the road compared to 2 years ago. Another of my friend who works in BBDC told me that there are increase in ppl learning driving in their school and that includes the FT.
To satisfy customer, this is the only way. More drivers needed but dun forget that M'sia drivers are no longer interested in this job.
Indeed ulu pandan are usually congested free but do not forget abt the traffic light along the road. Yesterday, I experienced this on Service 502. The bus I took stopped almost all the traffic light along the road and cars dashing in from the side caused some drivers to jam brakes. Not to forget of the cars along the route which are rather high and fast.
MRT is still the preferred choice of the new generation.
Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
" which young local wants to drive these days?" U should ask why are there so many cars on the road compared to 2 years ago. Another of my friend who works in BBDC told me that there are increase in ppl learning driving in their school and that includes the FT.To satisfy customer, this is the only way. More drivers needed but dun forget that M'sia drivers are no longer interested in this job.
Indeed ulu pandan are usually congested free but do not forget abt the traffic light along the road. Yesterday, I experienced this on Service 502. The bus I took stopped almost all the traffic light along the road and cars dashing in from the side caused some drivers to jam brakes. Not to forget of the cars along the route which are rather high and fast.
MRT is still the preferred choice of the new generation.
It's all because they screwed up the COE quota. Using projected fig instead of actual. Anyway they've rectified it. Furthermore like myself I dun use the car always. Instead of mentioning all these, why not think of encourage public tpt further?
Furthermore as houses get more ex due to land intensity, u sure car can afford?
Sure? Then why there are students rather take 154 from NP to Eunos or 151 to Hougang? Cos they dun want to stand on the whole journey. Everyone has diff 'taste' for tpt needs.
Ulu Pandan issue, aiya give and take over traffic light la.
Originally posted by sbst275:
It's all because they screwed up the COE quota. Using projected fig instead of actual. Anyway they've rectified it. Furthermore like myself I dun use the car always. Instead of mentioning all these, why not think of encourage public tpt further?Furthermore as houses get more ex due to land intensity, u sure car can afford?
Sure? Then why there are students rather take 154 from NP to Eunos or 151 to Hougang? Cos they dun want to stand on the whole journey. Everyone has diff 'taste' for tpt needs.
Ulu Pandan issue, aiya give and take over traffic light la.
If only when the transport system is most complete, reliable and comfortable than having a car.
Although u see many youngsters are suffering economically but they still cant resist the temptation of a car which give them honour, proud and convenience.
Ya, I had heard ppl taking bus frm boon lay to amk..
Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
If only when the transport system is most complete, reliable and comfortable than having a car.Although u see many youngsters are suffering economically but they still cant resist the temptation of a car which give them honour, proud and convenience.
Ya, I had heard ppl taking bus frm boon lay to amk..
the ironic thing is, cars will forever be comfortable. But can you afford it? That's e bigger qn.
Originally posted by sbst275:
the ironic thing is, cars will forever be comfortable. But can you afford it? That's e bigger qn.
exactly, but cars are still useful for job that requires pple to go around..
Personally I got a weekend car and it maybe ex but u must hav a stable job. A car to malaysia is the best choice.
Originally posted by chickenlittle2:If u nv take the new 502 before, pls keep ur mouth shut. If u nv had met pax that took the bus from Suntec all the way to toh guan when she actually want to get to Orchard pls keep ur mouth shut. I am not comparing the pax affected but there are ppl affected these 2 weeks ince operation. I dun care whether it goes anticlosewise or closewise cos it dun worth discussing here since it is set.
quote for rudeness.
Originally posted by chickenlittle2:exactly, but cars are still useful for job that requires pple to go around..
Personally I got a weekend car and it maybe ex but u must hav a stable job. A car to malaysia is the best choice.
honestly those who really need cars are those sales rep moving ard doing grocery trade dist.
Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
More bus means more job opportunities.Similarly more bus service means more job opportunities. Just a call to china, they can supply u 100 over ppl to take up the job. I had been in the recruitment line before, i dun see any issue with it. I am satisfied with the new route and I dun need 502 to go bi-directional. This is a matter of time, ppl will get use.Pls stop using kbkp, u cry father cry mother is ur problem. Even taiwanese can think of another word to use.
you are being rhetoric. recruting bus drivers from china is not as easy as you've said. and stop your personal attacks.
Please just ignore the chicken little. The one on movie isn't as irritating as the one on SGF. This topic isn't about discussing your personal opinion or ideas. If you want to continue, please settle it via mail.
Originally posted by SMB66X:Please just ignore the chicken little. The one on movie isn't as irritating as the one on SGF. This topic isn't about discussing your personal opinion or ideas. If you want to continue, please settle it via mail.
It's not over worth it or not.
There's lots of ppl with the similar mindset for bus & MRT sv demand. No one realise that it comes w/ lots of planning for the future.
or something bus is useless. Ever thought twice can e MRT cope?
Originally posted by chickenlittle2:exactly, but cars are still useful for job that requires pple to go around..
Personally I got a weekend car and it maybe ex but u must hav a stable job. A car to malaysia is the best choice.
you got ur weekend car that's ur problem. Dun come here show off hao lian. We nt interested.
I shall debunk all the facts here:
1) Some people do not own their cars as it is too expensive
I would like to emphasise on this, some people would rather rely on public transport to get to their desired destination. If people would own a car even using it on off-peak or weekends, he/she will have to purchase COE, Road Tax and Insurance, etc, on top of the cost of the car alone. Besides that, if their petrol runs low, he/she would have to spend time driving to the nearest petrol kiosk to get their tanks fill up, paying for the petrol. As for the Supplementary Driving License for Off-Peak Cars, one must log in to the LTA One Motoring Website (ROV) to get the coupon online.
2) Most people do not rely on MRT alone, Bus is another alternative option.
MRT do not cater to the needs of the people relying on public transport. The set up of TransitLink is there to integrate the entire public transprot system. Yes of course, when the 1st Transitlink Integration Exercise took place, some residents who frequented the service went to complain to the Straits Times Froum and even to their MPs, citing one example like the abolishment of 147 to Potong Pasir Estate and the longest travelling time on Service 82. However, TransitLink is able to respond to the feedbacks and the reason behind it is integration of the public transport, not the form of inconvenience the resdents surfaced.
If TransitLink leads to failure, or if the two bus service companies decided to simply withdrawn or cutback the service just because of the MRT nearby, without any weak constraints or a passenger survey carried out, more problems will be created and people will start to feedback on their unhappiness to the bus companies and even to the MPs. That's why Buses must also play a part, because not everyone lives nearby or a short walking distance close to the MRT.
TransitLink is there for a reason, to provide the integrated benefits for everone using the public transport. Without that, there might be some wasteful resources and duplication on bus services which were unnoticed when the MRT began to operate.
3) If there are feedbacks on a particular route, it does not mean that the service is either to be diverted elsewhere, cutback or even to be withdrawn with that feedback.
Some people who rely on that particluar service will STILL be deemed useful to them, thats why the routes were kept intact within their needs. The problem is if the service were to divert, cutback or withdrawn without a proper sruvey and usefulness of teh service, as again, some people will have to take alternative service or walk nearby to a bus stop to take a nearest bus service to get to their desired destination and the journey/waiting time and fares spent will be higher than usual.
i rely on all public, car, bike.
there is no one form of transport you can always rely on.
Originally posted by QX179R:Students don't understand how to move to the back of bus
Yeah, TIB1225U (on 169) and TIB1046U (903) also. Spotted them when I returned from RP. Main culprit was those RP people who refused to move the back, especially second carriage, ended up people waiting at last stop before heading WRI cannot board it. How selfish they are....
Originally posted by ^tamago^:
you are being rhetoric. recruting bus drivers from china is not as easy as you've said. and stop your personal attacks.
If the boss of the woodlands transport can tell me that they can easily get ppl from china to take over the malaysian and singaporean job. I dun think it is not easy compared to recruting bus drivers from Malaysia and Singapore.
Pls read clearly of what is happening.
Originally posted by chickenlittle3:you got ur weekend car that's ur problem. Dun come here show off hao lian. We nt interested.
why u want to be my shadow?
Originally posted by QX179R:Long wait for bus 911 every morning for these commuters
14 passengers sent to hospital after two SBS buses collide in Jurong
http://singaporeseen.stomp.com.sg/stomp/sgseen/this_urban_jungle/371840/front_of_doubledecker_bus_smashed_after.html
Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
If the boss of the woodlands transport can tell me that they can easily get ppl from china to take over the malaysian and singaporean job. I dun think it is not easy compared to recruting bus drivers from Malaysia and Singapore.Pls read clearly of what is happening.
U know why? Coz woodlands transport is not a public transport operator. Indeed , u might think it's easy to recruit PRC drivers for WT transport. But , think again.
1. SBS Transit or SMRT needs to recruit PRC drivers 1st.
2. They[SBST , SMRT] need to train the PRC drivers. i.e. How to use the ramp properly on a WAB.
3.Remember this , PRCs are not used to right hand drive as their country is left handed driving.
So , even the high pay that SBST and SMRT is offering to the PRC , some still reject. Easy to employ? I dun think so.
Originally posted by QX179R:Students don't understand how to move to the back of bus
our mini stars dun even understand it
They keep on mentioning abt tis matter of moving in, yet dun understand how to preach to e students.
*thinks back to e days of non aircon packed SBS buses* Sobs
Originally posted by chickenlittle3:you got ur weekend car that's ur problem. Dun come here show off hao lian. We nt interested.
W00ts! GG. A new borned baby :)