Even though our bus companies are aimed to gain profits at every FY, they do have social responsibilities to perform no matter what.
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You people are not SBST, talk so much doesn't make any changes.
Originally posted by off_service:Even though our bus companies are aimed to gain profits at every FY, they do have social responsibilities to perform no matter what.
Yup but Singapore is a country where the free market dictates the policy that companies should take and the bus operators have to cherry up with their investors(shareholders)... I think the bus operators should make the basic for travellers and then the industry can be expanded. That also means that they should standardise the maintainence of equipment and the quality should be uniform thru-out the company.
Originally posted by SBS9364S:
Dun understand y BBDEP still keep going 2 intake more Euro 5? Since got many SPs, nvr assigned perm duties yet, except 63 & 99.Even if 7 got new Euro 5 perm, there'll be still 11 SPs left.
Lets hope tat dun end up lik last time, all Batch 2 buses ended up in HGDEP.
why not? it has all the space to accomodate all of them....
Originally posted by Fryderyk HPH:In management, where it is all about the profit dollar that keeps your business afloat, you need to prioritise what goes where. In this sense, since a subsidiary(in this case BNDEP) cannot maintain decent levels of standards and is not keeping up with maintainence standards of other subsidiaries(depots), giving them good things is a waste. I am not saying SBST should close down BNDEP, though I would be glad if that happens, but rather SBST should implement either harsh protocols on service maintainence, or do the economical viable thing to bring good stuff to where it can be maintained properly.
Every depot have their own ways of doing things. As long the buses can take passengers and bring you to the destination you wanted is good enough. You would be glad if SBST close down bndep, then how you going to get out of Tampines? Just live with it and stop yalking here.
Originally posted by Fryderyk HPH:In management, where it is all about the profit dollar that keeps your business afloat, you need to prioritise what goes where. In this sense, since a subsidiary(in this case BNDEP) cannot maintain decent levels of standards and is not keeping up with maintainence standards of other subsidiaries(depots), giving them good things is a waste. I am not saying SBST should close down BNDEP, though I would be glad if that happens, but rather SBST should implement either harsh protocols on service maintainence, or do the economical viable thing to bring good stuff to where it can be maintained properly.
If you do not know every little aspects of what SBST is doing, I susgest you to shut up. I may know a lot of information regarding SBST, but let me tell you that what you are saying is obsolutely crap.
Try and flame me back, and I shall see how many people out there are laughing with your own "thinkings" about SBST. Get your facts right before complaining and complaining.
Originally posted by Fryderyk HPH:In management, where it is all about the profit dollar that keeps your business afloat, you need to prioritise what goes where. In this sense, since a subsidiary(in this case BNDEP) cannot maintain decent levels of standards and is not keeping up with maintainence standards of other subsidiaries(depots), giving them good things is a waste. I am not saying SBST should close down BNDEP, though I would be glad if that happens, but rather SBST should implement either harsh protocols on service maintainence, or do the economical viable thing to bring good stuff to where it can be maintained properly.
if this issue only concerns the staff, it's fine. punish them for doing what they should be doing better, and reward those outstanding ones.
unfortunately not all services in singapore are EB or TRG.
Originally posted by Fryderyk HPH:I dun mind HG getting new and good buses and them throwing chui buses to BN... At least we know that they treat their buses better there
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If HGDEP really throws all the Volvo MK4s to BNDEP, one day the Serangoon/Hougang/Sengkang/Punggol SBST bus services will become almost full Euro 4/5 Scania K230UB fleets ![]()
Originally posted by Fryderyk HPH:In management, where it is all about the profit dollar that keeps your business afloat, you need to prioritise what goes where. In this sense, since a subsidiary(in this case BNDEP) cannot maintain decent levels of standards and is not keeping up with maintainence standards of other subsidiaries(depots), giving them good things is a waste. I am not saying SBST should close down BNDEP, though I would be glad if that happens, but rather SBST should implement either harsh protocols on service maintainence, or do the economical viable thing to bring good stuff to where it can be maintained properly.
The lack of decent levels of standards is what make BNDEP Uniquely BNDEP! Where else can you find K230s with Blacked out rear EDSes (8219K - now still blacked out
) MK IVs with Fractured Mirrors (2768G - fixed), masking tape everywhere...
P.S. ... and buses that run >85km/h.
To mechanics of
BNDEP:
Firstly, SBS1940G's speedometer needs to be resat. It's jutting out
from the dashboard.
SBS1985C's skyliner needs repairing. One of the legs is very rusty
and has a tree branch stuck in it.
SBS1988U's BC cabin needs some paint. The white remains from the
glue gun looks very unsightly.
SBS2830J needs to be overhauled. The whole bus vibrates when
accelerating and is the bus that most frequently breaks down
in the 10e fleet.
Finally, can you please grant my pal SBS8219K its wish of having
its rear EDS working again?
Yours Sincerely
SBS1984E (BNDEP 66/66A)
P.S. I also need someone to fix my ventilation fans. The rearmost
one is leaking water when it rains. I think its not sealed
properly. I would apppreciate it if no more glue guns were
used.
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Does 2811P still have the loose tyre cover. LOL.
Originally posted by Fryderyk HPH:In management, where it is all about the profit dollar that keeps your business afloat, you need to prioritise what goes where. In this sense, since a subsidiary(in this case BNDEP) cannot maintain decent levels of standards and is not keeping up with maintainence standards of other subsidiaries(depots), giving them good things is a waste. I am not saying SBST should close down BNDEP, though I would be glad if that happens, but rather SBST should implement either harsh protocols on service maintainence, or do the economical viable thing to bring good stuff to where it can be maintained properly.
You go and be the manager or mechanics or cleaners at BNDEP. I think that it will boost the standards up.
Don't like eastern buses, go live in the west. No one's stopping you. Not everyone welcome such suggestions. Please mind what you want to say in future.
Originally posted by Fryderyk HPH:My opinion on this is...
All depots should get EEVs except BN. Then they should throw the Mk IVs(all diff bodyworks) and lousy buses from other depots to BN and segregate all the Mercz to one depot(preferably AM/BR). Reason why BN does not deserve to get new buses is that the buses that go BN almost always become bad. Case in point, poor maintainence that led to many KUB EDS' corrupting and the bad and poor standards in the buses. New buses should be properly maintained. The day that one of the new KUBs from BN get gear jam/lock/slip GG to them.
i advise you keep your outrageously unhumble opinions to yourself instead of offending different parties over and over again.
Originally posted by SMB32T:
Yeah, I agree. Even BNDEP keeps taking a lots of Euro 5 buses too, whereas HGDEP only had very few of them. I would rather HGDEP take in those massive Euro 5s instead.Heard that all these Euro 5 buses are meant to replace the outgoing Volvo MK3 fleet as well as some of the MB0405s that are reaching 19 years.
because of you, my wish is that when the circle line opens from dhoby ghaut - marymount. is that 70 is shortened to serangoon int from yck ter and attain full hgdep control where it has a full MKIII fleet from its big number of spares (it will take MKIV DM when MKIII retire and den Strider etc.) and probably the full fleet size would be 6 buses.
then, the whole amdep fleet would be released to accomodate more parking space in amdep. and then 86 follow suit?
honestly speaking, every area should have some freedom to be able to receive new buses, its whether sbst feels that these new buses are needed in that particular depot to be despatched on a particular route. esp also when its depot has a large number of its fleet thats about to go into retirement.
Whatever your opinion is, it is very self-centered rather than it is gonna help SBST if things were done the way you want it to.
Originally posted by Fryderyk HPH:My opinion on this is...
All depots should get EEVs except BN. Then they should throw the Mk IVs(all diff bodyworks) and lousy buses from other depots to BN and segregate all the Mercz to one depot(preferably AM/BR). Reason why BN does not deserve to get new buses is that the buses that go BN almost always become bad. Case in point, poor maintainence that led to many KUB EDS' corrupting and the bad and poor standards in the buses. New buses should be properly maintained. The day that one of the new KUBs from BN get gear jam/lock/slip GG to them.
Originally posted by SMB32T:
Yeah, I agree. Even BNDEP keeps taking a lots of Euro 5 buses too, whereas HGDEP only had very few of them. I would rather HGDEP take in those massive Euro 5s instead.Heard that all these Euro 5 buses are meant to replace the outgoing Volvo MK3 fleet as well as some of the MB0405s that are reaching 19 years.
Can people like SMB32T and fryderyk hph stop ther wishful thinking and ridiculous suggestions? One keep wishing for newer buses to come to his area. Another keep whining about lousy buses in BN and should not get newer buses.
Haven't learnt your lessons. Kena flamed before and yet continuing with such comments. We are all sick of it, even if you are not.
Hey, this isn't a place for you to decide the deployments. If you think you can manage so well, there's always HR dept in bus companies. Just go and interview and you can change the deployments if youare successful.
If you have nothing else to contribute here other than updating deployments, well, just shut up and read. No one is asking for these unwanted opinions.
Thank you for all your cooperation.
Originally posted by sbs&tibs:
Can people like SMB32T and fryderyk hph stop ther wishful thinking and ridiculous suggestions? One keep wishing for newer buses to come to his area. Another keep whining about lousy buses in BN and should not get newer buses.Haven't learnt your lessons. Kena flamed before and yet continuing with such comments. We are all sick of it, even if you are not.
Hey, this isn't a place for you to decide the deployments. If you think you can manage so well, there's always HR dept in bus companies. Just go and interview and you can change the deployments if youare successful.
If you have nothing else to contribute here other than updating deployments, well, just shut up and read. No one is asking for these unwanted opinions.
Thank you for all your cooperation.
I agree with you. But will they even get it into their heads??
basically they will feel, these people just want to shoot them down collectively.
they never think why people collectively shoot them also.
Have fun dissing and hurling personal insults at your future new forumites. Good riddance to that.
I am out of here.
Originally posted by Oceane:
That is because they have plans to deploy them on some service. They don't take for fun...
I know, most probably replace MK3s and DM3500s.
They hv 2 take out most of DM3500s from perm trunk services 2 replace JB-registered MK3.
In return, Euro 5 will replace DM3500s.
Originally posted by Fryderyk HPH:Have fun dissing and hurling personal insults at your future new forumites. Good riddance to that.
I am out of here.
It is not insults. It is whether you know where you have went wrong or not. If you choose to think you are right and you insist your opinions should be agreeable, we let you be. We don't want to give ourselves hard time entertaining.
Originally posted by .SBS9888Y.:basically they will feel, these people just want to shoot them down collectively.
they never think why people collectively shoot them also.
it is like PAP with members: sbs&tibs, SBS233X, Simple_Boi and you are fighting against Worker's Party with members Fryderlyk HPH and SMB32T. in the end, who wins? it is PAP.
Originally posted by Fryderyk HPH:Have fun dissing and hurling personal insults at your future new forumites. Good riddance to that.
I am out of here.
Who do you think you are? If you dont change, that will even be good luck to you. Why? Simple. You dont even examine yourself before saying others. Mind you, you dont own the world.
No one will stop you from leaving.
Originally posted by JaSoNhSu92:
it is like PAP with members: sbs&tibs, SBS233X, Simple_Boi and you are fighting against Worker's Party with members Fryderlyk HPH and SMB32T. in the end, who wins? it is PAP.
Erm. We are stating facts, not trying to show our popularity. You can see who's right and wrong here. It is not about pulling votes at all.
Originally posted by Fryderyk HPH:Have fun dissing and hurling personal insults at your future new forumites. Good riddance to that.
I am out of here.
I AM GETTING OUT FROM HERE TOO ![]()
Originally posted by sbs&tibs:
It is not insults. It is whether you know where you have went wrong or not. If you choose to think you are right and you insist your opinions should be agreeable, we let you be. We don't want to give ourselves hard time entertaining.
it's their business. they never get their facts right before speaking out at here.
Originally posted by Rk 2010:Who do you think you are? If you dont change, that will even be good luck to you. Why? Simple. You dont even examine yourself before saying others. Mind you, you dont own the world.
Oh hello... Who was the one on MSN who for no reason wanted to go in and meddle in my personal affairs... Even telling me that if I do not start talking to a certain individual, you would not want to talk to me. Excuse me, I do not have any obligation to YOU to tell YOU how I feel.
And FYI, I do not think I "own the world". Perhaps YOU should practice what you preach.