Past bus routes and deployment
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Originally posted by sbst275:
if didn't remember wrongly the very first Woodlands Int was actually Marsiling Terminal when SBS opened it around 1978.
169, 180, 182, 372 terminated there. Later on Woodlands Ctr Int was built and 178, 181, 204, 208 was added to Woodlands's Bus network.
372 does not exist during the late 1970s or the early 1980s. It was a new feeder service from Woodlands to Marsiling Road on 8 Feb 1982 by SBS and actualy meant for passengers who are affected by the service 169 cahnges.
178 and 208 used to terminate at Marsiling Ter and 169 covers the route of Admiralty Rd on 29 Nov 1981.
169 was amended to termiante at Woodalnds Int, while 178 was amended to Marsiling Ter on 14 Dec 1980. [The reason behind it is due to the conversion of Bt panjang cirus to a signalised junction of Choa Chu Kang Rd, Woodlands Rd & Upp Bt Timah Rd -- NOTE Bt Panjang Rd doesnt exist at that time.] -
Originally posted by service_238:
when 163 terminated at Jln Kayu it was full amdep. Its merc went to 159 due to their route changes.
Service 159 initially became dual AM/HG controlled in 2001 when extended to Sengkang. When service 163 extended to Sengkang and came under full HGDEP in late 2002, service 159 was back to full AMDEP and converted into Toa Payoh - Sengkang loop service. Service 163 took all the Volvo MK4s from service 159 rite? -
Originally posted by SMB32T:
Service 171 was also amended to terminate at Yishun interchange in the 1980s and it was the only SBS service to ply along Yishun all those while. In Nov 1995 service 171 finally went under Tibs control.
On 18 Jan 1987, SBS sevice 171 was made to termainte at the new Yishun Int. Previously it was used to be from Sembawang (Mandai Rd) to Queen St. At the same time, 854 also started on the same date itself. -
Originally posted by SMB32T:
852 - Yishun to Jurong via Bt Timah and Bt Batok (cutback to Bt Batok in 1996)
856 - Yishun to Woodlands via Admiralty and Senoko estate
Service 852 was relocated to Boon Lay in 1990 before cutback to Bt Batok in 1996 under the Woodlands MRT rationalisation. The service was initially planned to be withdrawn.Service 856 was amended in 1996 under the Woodlands MRT rationalisation, the amendment was due to service 169 integration with service 857 (Yishun - Admiralty Rd West). Service 856 skipped Admiralty Rd East and instead plied Canberra Rd while service 169 skipped Canberra Rd and instead plied Admiralty Rd East, ie. they swapped routes in Sembawang area.
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Originally posted by SBS8533C:
The Old Woodlands Interchange ar...
Hmm, I think i got mentioned before
Another point to note: 901 still terminate at the old Woodlands Int when its Woodlands services were amended to Woodlands Reg Int on 4 Feb 1996.
Some missed out facts: When the Woodlands Chekpt Terminus closed down in early 2003, and 911, 912, 913 would terminate at Marsiling Rd. Passengers who want to continue the trip will board the bus from Woodlands Centre Rd (opp the Town Garden)Service 901 did not terminate at the old interchange, service 904 did.
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Originally posted by tranquilice:
Service 901 did not terminate at the old interchange, service 904 did.
hehe.. i wasnt aware about it.. although the ST article still states that 901 will continue plying from old Woodlands Int on 4 feb 1996. Perhaps its a last minute change after suggestions were made by the residents abt 901 and thus a new svc 904 would serve the Woodlands - Woodladns Chekpt Ter and svc 901 would start from Woodlands reg Int. -
Originally posted by SBS8533C (15 nov 2009 post):==== CHOA CHU KANG / LIM CHU KANG BUS SERVICES HISTORY ====
302 - Choa Chu Kang to Choa Chu Kang St 62 (Loop) [service introduced in 1994. Extended to CCK Cres and was amended to skip CCK St 62 in 1997 with the formation of Townlink 307 (now known as Intratown 307 when handed to TIBS in 1999]
I just want to point out the service 302 & 303 historry again..
When 302 was introduced in early 1994, this service started off as Choa Chu Kang to Choa Chu Kang St 52 Loop Service. When Choa Chua Kang St 52 was being joined up with Choa Chu Kang St 62, and North 6, the service was amended to loop at St 62 instead of St 52, which will also connects to the Yew Tee MRT.
As for 303, it started off as Choa Chu Kang to Choa Chua Kang Noth 5 loop service and on 29 Oct 1995, it was amended to loop at Choa Chu Kang St 62, with additional bus stops ereted along Choa Chu Kang North 6 and 303 serves the Yew Tee MRT together with 302. -
Originally posted by SBS8533C:
I just want to point out the service 302 & 303 historry again..
When 302 was introduced in early 1994, this service started off as Choa Chu Kang to Choa Chu Kang St 52 Loop Service. When Choa Chua Kang St 52 was being joined up with Choa Chu Kang St 62, and North 6, the service was amended to loop at St 62 instead of St 52, which will also connects to the Yew Tee MRT.
As for 303, it started off as Choa Chu Kang to Choa Chua Kang Noth 5 loop service and on 29 Oct 1995, it was amended to loop at Choa Chu Kang St 62, with additional bus stops ereted along Choa Chu Kang North 6 and 303 serves the Yew Tee MRT together with 302.302 eventually ended up looping @ CCK Cres.
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Originally posted by SGCar:
147 was converted to FAC during that period, but if anyone can recall, some of Mercedes-Benz OF1417 (Hawke body) did 147 somewhere in 2000 for a few months before it was phased out. I remember bcos I took it a few times during my school days, one of it I remember clearly was SBS5555J.
There's also some other services which OF1417 did before phasing out, dun really recall the services.
Cheers.
LOL SBS5555J -
In the past where w'lands was under KJ control, how many mercz perm did 856 receive?
Also in the past BN buses and HG are they interchangeable?
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Originally posted by One Harmonius Blend:
In the past where w'lands was under KJ control, how many mercz perm did 856 receive?
Also in the past BN buses and HG are they interchangeable?
AMDEP control 856 in the past, not KJDEP. 856 indeed used to have 1st Gen Box Bendys on its fleet, besides 851. TIBS planned to place the sole demo box bendy on 856 but later on it actually place and deployed 171 as the final decision.
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Originally posted by iveco:
302 eventually ended up looping @ CCK Cres.
Yes, that was when Choa Chu Kang Crescent was constructed with the erection of new HDB blocks somehwere in 1999 i think. -
Originally posted by SBS8533C:
AMDEP control 856 in the past, not KJDEP. 856 indeed used to have 1st Gen Box Bendys on its fleet, besides 851. TIBS planned to place the sole demo box bendy on 856 but later on it actually place and deployed 171 as the final decision.its KJ/AM dual controlled
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Originally posted by One Harmonius Blend:
By the way, TIB856E perm 856 for awhile, being a "Friends of TIBS'' bus. -
Originally posted by One Harmonius Blend:"its KJ/AM dual controlled"
Hmm, then I dun really remember whether 856 was KJ/AM controlled or full AMDEP contolled. From what I observe in the past, only scania, ELBO, merc and bendies from AMDEP were deployed on 856. No DAFs. The Woodlands services were from KJDEP. -
Originally posted by TIB1234T:
By the way, TIB856E perm 856 for awhile, being a "Friends of TIBS'' bus.
That was under AMDEP.856 was never controlled by KJDEP; it has always been under Yishun Route Group and hence was purely AMDEP controlled initially.
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Originally posted by TIB1232Z:
That was under AMDEP.856 was never controlled by KJDEP; it has always been under Yishun Route Group and hence was purely AMDEP controlled initially.
Yah, but it really did 856 as I remember correctly that I took this bus on 856 with my parents before going to KJDEP.
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Originally posted by TIB1234T:
Yah, but it really did 856 as I remember correctly that I took this bus on 856 with my parents before going to KJDEP.
It was actually ex-851 perm before re-deploy to 856 -
Originally posted by TIB1232Z:
That was under AMDEP.856 was never controlled by KJDEP; it has always been under Yishun Route Group and hence was purely AMDEP controlled initially.
Service 856 was ever under partial KJDEP before, there were minority of them if I am not wrong. I remember seeing DAFs cameoing on service 856 before in 1997.TIB856E TIB859Y TIB860S TIB861P TIB862L were initially under KJDEP when newly registered in 1997, all these bendies were transferred over to AMDEP a few months later and deployed to AMDEP 856 perms.
In Oct 1998, the new WLDEP opened. Service 856 eventually became full WLDEP controlled till then. The a/m bendies followed service 856 to WLDEP.
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Originally posted by SGCar:
147 was converted to FAC during that period, but if anyone can recall, some of Mercedes-Benz OF1417 (Hawke body) did 147 somewhere in 2000 for a few months before it was phased out. I remember bcos I took it a few times during my school days, one of it I remember clearly was SBS5555J.
There's also some other services which OF1417 did before phasing out, dun really recall the services.
Cheers.
The Merc OF1417s did mainly AMK and Serangoon feeders if I remembered correctly. There were also cameos which appeared on other AMDEP services like 59, 73, 163 etc...If I remember correctly in the past,
- AMDEP/JRBP: Merc OF1417s (Hawke/NZMB)
- ARBP/BBDEP/TPDEP/BNDEP: Volvo B57 NZMB
HGDEP seems to control both OF1417s and B57s from what I recall, remember seeing them on Hougang feeders. Eventually all the Hougang feeders switched to NAC Volvo MK2s in 1994-95.
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Originally posted by SMB32T:
The Merc OF1417s did mainly AMK and Serangoon feeders if I remembered correctly. There were also cameos which appeared on other AMDEP services like 59, 73, 163 etc...If I remember correctly in the past,
- AMDEP/JRBP: Merc OF1417s (Hawke/NZMB)
- ARBP/BBDEP/TPDEP/BNDEP: Volvo B57 NZMB
HGDEP seems to control both OF1417s and B57s from what I recall, remember seeing them on Hougang feeders. Eventually all the Hougang feeders switched to NAC Volvo MK2s in 1994-95.
by 59 i believe u mean the old 59 AMK to Jln Kayu?
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Originally posted by SBS8533C:
It was actually ex-851 perm before re-deploy to 856
Yah, before joining with TIB860S, TIB862L and others. -
Originally posted by SMB32T:
Service 856 was ever under partial KJDEP before, there were minority of them if I am not wrong. I remember seeing DAFs cameoing on service 856 before in 1997.TIB856E TIB859Y TIB860S TIB861P TIB862L were initially under KJDEP when newly registered in 1997, all these bendies were transferred over to AMDEP a few months later and deployed to AMDEP 856 perms.
In Oct 1998, the new WLDEP opened. Service 856 eventually became full WLDEP controlled till then. The a/m bendies followed service 856 to WLDEP.
TIB859Y did 187 when its new before going to AMDEP then back to KJDEP. -
Originally posted by jayh272416:
by 59 i believe u mean the old 59 AMK to Jln Kayu?
Yah.. but btw sv 59 used to have Merc O405 running when the massive clearence of older B57s/OF1417s buses mostly from AMDEP. However, a small portion of those older models can still be seen on feeders before they eventually replaced by n113s. -
Originally posted by SBS8533C:
Yah.. but btw sv 59 used to have Merc O405 running when the massive clearence of older B57s/OF1417s buses mostly from AMDEP. However, a small portion of those older models can still be seen on feeders before they eventually replaced by n113s.
Feeder replacements after Volvo B57s and Merc OF1417s were gone:-- Bt Merah, Buona Vista, Clementi, Bt Batok, CCK feeders under ARBP/BBDEP: Volvo MK2 (mostly WAs)
- Hougang, Eunos feeders under HGDEP: Volvo MK2 (mostly DMs)
- Jurong East, Boon Lay feeders under JRBP (SLBP): Merc 0405s
- Ang Mo Kio, Serangoon feeders under AMDEP: Merc 0405s
- Toa Payoh, Bishan feeders under TPDEP (BRBP): Scania N113CRBs
- Bedok, Tampines, Pasir Ris feeders under BNDEP: Scania N113CRBs
To add on that Kent Ridge route group was under JRBP in the past, services 151 (partial JRBP) and 200 operated with Merc 0405 fleets. It was after the major SBS/Tibs swop in 1999 when Kent Ridge bus routes were given to BBDEP.
In Sept 2004 Serangoon route group went under HGDEP, whereas Eunos route group went under BRBP.