Originally posted by ZYX2005:we urge folks to not call all 40x as Parks services. They are known as recreational services.
408 and 409 are the only ones to be Parks services.
at one time 401 was a parks services as evident from the bus hand outs in 2007 or 8 but later revised back as a recreational service.
all recreational service have their own fare systems be it trunk or flat fare? or simply Parks fare.
Back then, 40x was literally known and designated as "Special Services" at an initial stage when those services, 404, 405, 406 to various Tourist Attractions in Jurong were introduced together with 450 to PLC.
Even though 400, 401 and 403 fell under the Parks Services, they still charged in fare stages. 408 and 409 charged flat fares
Originally posted by SBS8533C:MARINA CENTRE BUS SERVICES
The Marina Centre Terminal (designted only for roadside parking) was built to upkeep the ongoing constructions of the new Marian Square and Pan Pacific Hotel. A major development, SUntec City was also planned but construction began as far back as 1989 and completed its construction in 1995.
SERVICES THAT EVER SERVED MARINA CENTRE TERMINAL
CBD 1 - Marina Centre to Tomlinson Rd [service withdrawn in 1989]
56 - Bishan to Marina Centre [current]
58 - Bishan to Marina Centre [merged with 56]
75 - Bt Panjang to Marina Centre [previously from CCK - Marina Centre]
77 - Bt Batok to Marina Centre [previosuly from Marina Centre to Farrer Rd]
79 - Jurong East to Marina Centre [withdrawn due to the extension of MRT Line to Jurong East]
97 - Jurong East to Marina Centre
106 - Bt Batok to Marina Centre [previously from Bt Batok - Serangoon, cut back to Marina Centre but extended to Shenton Way, due to certain reasons, okay, no need to repeat here]
133 - Ang Mo Kio to Marina Centre [amended to loop at Marina Centre]
133A - Ang Mo Kio to Marina Centre [was renumbered to 133 instead; with the removal of the 133 route along CTE and Braddell Rd]
163 - Jln Kayu to Marina Centre [previously serving WTC; but was shortened to Marian Ctr; merged with service 137 and withdrawn]
171 - Yishun to Marina Centre [Amended to Bt Panjang in 1993; skipped the Mandai Lake Rd sector in 1994]
195 - Marina Centre to Commonwealth Dr (Loop) [previously from South Canal Terminal]
864 - Sengkang to Marina Centre [handed to SBS; merged with 84 to form 80; 864 was then withdrawn]
952 - Marsiling to Marina Centre [service was then extended to WRI but withdrawn later]
960 - Woodlands to Marina Centre
PASSING THRU SERVICES AROUND MARINA CENTRE
8 - Bedok to Robsinson Rd [service withdrawn]
36 - Changi Airport to Tomlinson Rd (Loop)
97 - Jurong East to Marina Centre (Loop) [service was made to terrminate at Marina Ctr]
107M - Hougang Ctrl to Marina Centre [formerly 107X aka 107#; previously from Serangoon to Marina Centre]
111 - Ghim Moh to Marina Centre [previosly from Ghim Moh to Hougang Ctrl]
133 - Ang Mo Kio to Marina Centre [no longer loops at Marina Centre; instead extended to Shenton Way]
133M - Shenton Way to Marina Centre (Loop)
181 - Alternative route to Marina Centre on Sundays & PHs [service extended to Geylang Ter and renumbered as 961]
501# - Hougang Ctrl to Marina Centre [extended to Sengkang]
502 - Soon Lee Bus Park to Marina Centre [previously Boon Lay to Sengkang tehn Boon Lay to Marina Centre and became Pioneer Rd North to MArina Centre when 502 and 518 were enhanced. Service was then extended to MBS]
518 - Pasir Ris to Marina Centre [518 was enhanced to serve more areas in Pasir Ris, Service was then extended to MBS]
700A - Bt Panjang to Marina Centre (Loop)
850 - Alternative route to Marina Centre on Sundays & PHs [service was withdrawn]
857 - Yishun to Suntec City (Loop)
961- Alternative route to Marina Centre on Sundays & PHs
SBS NITE OWLS (OLD)
162M - Marina Centre to Yishun Ring Rd (Loop) - operates only on festive periods
174M - Marina Centre to Jurong West
181M - Marina Centre to Choa Chu Kang (Loop)- operates only on festive periods
SBS NITE OWLS (NEW)
1N - Marina Centre to Ang Mo kio/Yishun
2N - Marina Centre to Bedok Reservoir/Tampines
3N - MArina Centre to Bt Panjang/Choa Chu Kang
4N - Marina Centre to Marine Parade/Bedok/Pasir Ris [follows 7N route]
5N - Marina Centre to Boon Lay/Jurong West [previously Marina Centre to Clementi/Jurong East]
6N - Marina Centre to Hougang/Sengkang /Punggol
7N - Marina Centre to Simei/Pasir Ris [withdrawn due to integration of 4N and 7N to form 4N]
8N - Marina Centre to Bukit Batok/Boon Lay [withdrawn due to intergration of 5N and 8N to form 5N]
TIBS NIGHTRIDER
NR1 - Marina Centre to Yishun [extended to Harbourfront Int and loop at Yishun Ring Rd]
NR2 - Marina Centre to Sembawang [previously served Woodlands, and was amended to Sembawang followed with the withdrawal of Extended NR9]
NR3 - Marina Centre to Choa Chu Kang [it was amended to Choa Chu Kang - North Canal Rd(loop))]
NR5 - Marina Centre to Jurong West St 75 (Loop) [previously from St Michael's Ter]
NR6 - Marina Cnetre to Anchorvale Dr (Loop) [service was extended to Harbourfront Int]
NR7 - Marina Centre to PAsir Ris Dr 3 (Loop)
NR8 - Marina Centre to Bt Batok West Ave 5 (Loop)
SS1 - Marina Centre to Aljunied Rd (Loop)
TIBS EXTENDED NIGHTRIDER (With the declining demand, the TIBS Extedned NightRider was subsequently withdrawn)
NR9 - Marina Centre to Sembawang Dr (Loop)
SBS CITYBUZZ SERVICES
SBS CityBuzz Services were introduced on 13 Dec 2004 with 3 routes (Orchard, Chinatown, Little India). Its first stop was at Raffles Ave (Esplanade), although its termination was at Marina Centre Terminal. However, with the availability of basic trunk services serving these areas, CityBuzz suffered a declination of ridership and was withdrawn on 31 Dec 2006.
C1 - Marina Centre to Orchard Rd (Loop) [THE ORCHARD ROUTE]
C2 - Marina Centre to South Bridge Rd (Loop) [THE CHINATOWN ROUTE]
C3 - Marina Centre to Kitchener Rd (Loop) [THE LITTLE INDIA ROUTE]
Blue denotes current services serving the Marina Centre area. Any amendments along the route can be found in sgwiki.
2 more services to add.
189 - Bukit Batok to Marina Centre. It was the first to enter Marina Centre when it was opened around 1986. Originally a loop service from Buona Vista to Empress Place, it was eventually amended to serve West Coast Ferry Terminal in the early 90s.
390 - Changi Airport to Tomlinson Road (loop) via Marina Centre. This sevice used to pass by Marina Centre from/to ECP.
Which svc did SBS7000E used to did and when it was withdrawn?
cheers!
Originally posted by bus555:Which svc did SBS7000E used to did and when it was withdrawn?
cheers!
One of the service it did was 30, not sure when it was withdrawn but possibly in the early 1990s as it was fitted with TL Validator.
Originally posted by SBS8533C:One of the service it did was 30, not sure when it was withdrawn but possibly in the early 1990s as it was fitted with TL Validator.
oo and it was under BNDEP right...
Originally posted by bus555:
oo and it was under BNDEP right...
should be.. since 30 was BNDEP/JRBP.
Originally posted by SBS8533C:One of the service it did was 30, not sure when it was withdrawn but possibly in the early 1990s as it was fitted with TL Validator.
So it actually survived the 12 years statutory lifespan? I thought it was shipped back to UK afer a few years in SBS?
And the registry of vehicles then in the 1980s, did allow SBS to acquire 2nd hand buses into their fleet (with the exception of those during the 1973 integration)? Since the Scania BR112DH is a second hand bus from a UK bus co. and LTA now don't allow public bus operator here to buy 2nd hand buses.
Originally posted by vicamour:
So it actually survived the 12 years statutory lifespan? I thought it was shipped back to UK afer a few years in SBS?And the registry of vehicles then in the 1980s, did allow SBS to acquire 2nd hand buses into their fleet (with the exception of those during the 1973 integration)? Since the Scania BR112DH is a second hand bus from a UK bus co. and LTA now don't allow public bus operator here to buy 2nd hand buses.
Hmm, it did survived the 12-year lifespan. The Leyland National bus was sent back to UK after 1 year, together with the Leyland Olympian Demonstator.
ROV back then, can only bring a few second-hand buses, subjected to the approval and had received inspection carried out by ROV
Originally posted by SBS8533C:
Hmm, it did survived the 12-year lifespan. The Leyland National bus was sent back to UK after 1 year, together with the Leyland Olympian Demonstator.
ROV back then, can only bring a few second-hand buses, subjected to the approval and had received inspection carried out by ROV
Ok, thanks for the information.
I have one enquiry about a SBS Hino RK176 demonstrator. Is it really true that SBS brought one in as a demostrator in the 1980s? Was it being used on the old SBS service 164?
Originally posted by vicamour:Ok, thanks for the information.
I have one enquiry about a SBS Hino RK176 demonstrator. Is it really true that SBS brought one in as a demostrator in the 1980s? Was it being used on the old SBS service 164?
There was a SBS 164
from Sembawang road end aka 167 terminal to new Bridge rd terminal.
guess it was withdrawn cause it duplicate part of 167 (and now 882 to Sembawang end)
Originally posted by bus555:
There was a SBS 164from Sembawang road end aka 167 terminal to new Bridge rd terminal.
guess it was withdrawn cause it duplicate part of 167 (and now 882 to Sembawang end)
hey. 167 never ply sembawang road end at that time until 1993 - 2005.
When 964 was first introduced in 1997 for half a year, how many fleets did they receive?
And also for 969 in 2001, which bus permed 969 when it was introduced?
Originally posted by One Harmonius Blend:When 964 was first introduced in 1997 for half a year, how many fleets did they receive?
And also for 969 in 2001, which bus permed 969 when it was introduced?
For 964:
TIB849B, TIB850X, TIB851T, TIB852R, TIB853M, TIB879P, TIB1107C.
For 969, I'm not sure, but think one of them is TIB981B.
Originally posted by TIB1234T:
For 964:
TIB849B, TIB850X, TIB851T, TIB852R, TIB853M, TIB879P, TIB1107C.For 969, I'm not sure, but think one of them is TIB981B.
1107C wasn't introduced at that time didn't it? so only 849B-879P?
(considering this svc was under KJ?)
Originally posted by One Harmonius Blend:
1107C wasn't introduced at that time didn't it? so only 849B-879P?(considering this svc was under KJ?)
I think TIB1107C was inside too as I think I remember it perm all along with other Box Bendies. TIB1107C was the sole perm 964 Habit bendy before going to 169.
Originally posted by TIB1234T:
I think TIB1107C was inside too as I think I remember it perm all along with other Box Bendies. TIB1107C was the sole perm 964 Habit bendy before going to 169.
1107C was registered in 2000/2001 I think, but 964 was introduced in 1997.
Originally posted by One Harmonius Blend:
1107C was registered in 2000/2001 I think, but 964 was introduced in 1997.
Oh yah, I forgot about that, but I know TIB849B - TIB853M and TIB879P were 964 perm.
Originally posted by TIB1234T:
For 964:
TIB849B, TIB850X, TIB851T, TIB852R, TIB853M, TIB879P, TIB1107C.For 969, I'm not sure, but think one of them is TIB981B.
969 only received bendies in 2002/2003. It had full Hispano O405 fleet in the beginning and then later having bendies on Sundays in 2002. The perm bendies went in after the 123x and 124x bendies joined the fleet, if I remembered correctly.
Originally posted by off_service:969 only received bendies in 2002/2003. It had full Hispano O405 fleet in the beginning and then later having bendies on Sundays in 2002. The perm bendies went in after the 123x and 124x bendies joined the fleet, if I remembered correctly.
So the full 0405 fleets that permed 969 are?
Note that 1243S-1247G joined only in 2004 though, So only 1230D-1241Y.
Originally posted by One Harmonius Blend:
So the full 0405 fleets that permed 969 are?Note that 1243S-1247G joined only in 2004 though, So only 1230D-1241Y.
Didn't keep track of deployments back then.
Yes I know. 1242U and 1244P first debuted on service 962 in January 2004, subsequently the two buses along with 1246J went to 859. 1243S and 1247G went to 856 and 1245L went to 900.
The 3 bendies on 859 together with 1001Z were mostly redeployed to 856 after 859 went to AMDEP except 1242U which went to 960.
Originally posted by vicamour:
So it actually survived the 12 years statutory lifespan? I thought it was shipped back to UK afer a few years in SBS?And the registry of vehicles then in the 1980s, did allow SBS to acquire 2nd hand buses into their fleet (with the exception of those during the 1973 integration)? Since the Scania BR112DH is a second hand bus from a UK bus co. and LTA now don't allow public bus operator here to buy 2nd hand buses.
SBS 7000E was technically 'on loan' from Scania and it demonstrated for a few British bus operators before being modified and shipped to Singapore in March 1982. It was based at Jurong Depot initially and was known to work on route 30.
I have personally rode the bus in 1988 when it had a stint on route 187. After that, it was reported that the bus spent its remaining career on route 31, presumably having been transferred to Bedok North Depot. There were no reports of SBS 7000E being exported so it is presumed that the bus met its end in a breaker's yard here.
Originally posted by SBS8533C:
Hmm, it did survived the 12-year lifespan. The Leyland National bus was sent back to UK after 1 year, together with the Leyland Olympian Demonstator.
ROV back then, can only bring a few second-hand buses, subjected to the approval and had received inspection carried out by ROV
The Leyland National 2 (SBS 6820L) was re-exported to Australia and turned into a school bus.
The Leyland Leopard (SBS 6791L) was returned to the UK.
Originally posted by vicamour:Ok, thanks for the information.
I have one enquiry about a SBS Hino RK176 demonstrator. Is it really true that SBS brought one in as a demostrator in the 1980s? Was it being used on the old SBS service 164?
Yes, according to an eyewitness account, it is true. However, it's not in the 80s but rather in the late 70s and the bus concerned was a front-engined Hino AK176MA; not a rear-engined RK. SBS 6702U was new in 1977 and was already removed by 1981.
Did anyone know that what fleet of buses were used in 133M?
Originally posted by SBS8533C:The SBS Express Services 501, 502, 503 & TIBS Express 520 were introduced on 5th May 1997 as part of the extension of the Road Pricing Scheme and the introduction of more Park-And-Ride carparks in areas such as Boon Lay Ave, Clementi, Hougang Central, Eunos, Simei, Ang Mo Kio, Bukit Batok & Yew Tee.
THE HISTORY OF SBS TRANSIT EXPRESS SERVICES
Express Services was non-existent before 1994. That was when SBS introduced Express 16E, which is a short route of service 16 between Bukit Merah & Changi Airport. Unlike other 'E' code service (which is currently used for Fast Forward Services in SBS Transit), it operated daily at 6 - 9am and 5 - 8pm.
16E - Bukit Merah - Changi Airport
Same route as service 16 (at that time), but skips all the bus stops from Nicoll Highway to Airport Boulevard. To Bukit Merah, it skips the bus stops from Marine Parade Road to Stamford Road.
However, just 3 years later in 1997, it was renumbered 36 and converted to trunk service, although the timing is still the same. In 1998, due to duplicating 16, it was converted into a trunk service and routings are totally changed. Timings are also adjusted too.
In mid-1997, three Express services is introduced by SBS. They are:
501 - Hougang Central - Outram Road/Shenton Way
502 - Hougang Central - Boon Lay
503 - Tampines - Orchard/Suntec City
Service 501 & 502's routing look somehow similar, via Upp Serangoon Rd, Hougang Ave 8,Yio Chu Kang Rd, Boundary Rd, Ang Mo Kio Ave 1 & CTE.
After CTE, 501 go down to Outram then to Shenton Way and go back to Hougang Central via Rochor Road (express). 502, however, going to its original route to Boon Lay from Orchard.
503's routing is just typical using the current 518's route.
In 1998, three more services is introduced by SBS. They are:
506 - Bedok - Jurong East
507 - Boon Lay - Shenton Way
508 - Sengkang - Shenton Way
506's routing was using its old routing from Jurong East - Bedok North Ave 3, plying Bedok North St 1 and the interchange. 507's route is availble on the website http://www.sbstransit.com.sg/press/2004aug_16-1.aspx. 508's route, however was duplicating part of current 501's route until Hougang Ave 8. It plies Hougang Ave 4, Yio Chu Kang Rd, Ang Mo Kio Ave 3 & CTE. It also used 501's route to Shenton Way & Outram Road except Marina Centre.
However, SBS enhanced two express services to serve passengers better:
501 - To ply Marina Centre after Fullerton Rd via Temasek Blvd & Ave and Raffles Ave, Stamford Rd & Penang Rd before continuing its route to Hougang Ctrl via CTE. It's also converted to loop service.
501X - Alternative to 501 except that it did not ply Outram Rd & Shenton Way.
503 - Renumbered 505 and extended to Telok Blangah area, skipping Marina Ctr portion. It's also extended to Pasir Ris and converted to loop service.
In 2000, almost all Express services in SBS is enhanced.
501, 501X & 502 - Extended to Sengkang via Hougang Ave 10, Sengkang East Ave, Rivervale Dr & Compassvale Dr.
505 - Renumbered 518 and shortened back to Marina Ctr.
506 - Extended to Changi Airport.
508 - Renumbered 511 and shortened to Hougang Ctrl via Hougang Ave 8 & Upp Serangoon Rd.
512 - Introduced to replace 502. The route from Hougang to CTE is duplicating 511. Loop at Orchard via Moulmein Rd, Newton Rd, Scotts Rd, Orchard Rd & back to CTE towards Hougang.
In 2002, Express 506 was shortened back to Bedok Interchange.
In 2003, during the NEL Rationaliasation, 501, 511 & 512 was withdrawn and 502 was shortened to loop at Marina Ctr.
In 2004, due to poor demand, Express 507 was withdrawn.
In 2005, Express 502 & 518 was enhanced:
Service 502 was extended to ply Pioneer Rd North, Jurong West Ave 5, St 75 & 64. It no longer plies Commonwealth Ave West, Clementi Ave 2, Holland Rd & Tanglin Rd. Service 502A & 502B were introduced to complement Service 502.
Service 518 was enhanced to cover more of Pasir Ris Dr 3, 12 & 1. 518A & 518B were introduced to complement 518.
The short trips of 502 & 518 were looping short trips. Service 502A ply the route of 502 except the stops from Jurong West Ave 1 to Boon Lay Way. 502B ply between Jurong West Ave 1 to Marina Ctr. 518A ply the route of 518 except the Tampines & Bedok North area. 518B plied between Tampines area & Marina Centre.
In 2006, Express 506 was extended to Upp East Coast Terminal via Bedok North Ave 3, New Upp Changi Rd, Bedok South Ave 3 & Upp East Coast Rd.
In 2009, Express 502 was extended to ply Soon Lee Bus Park via 185's route from Pioneer Rd North.
In 2010, 502B & 518B were withdrawn. 502 was extended to MBS area and skipping Raffles Ave, Stamford and part of Orchard area. 502A was also amended to terminate at Marina Stn Rd instead of looping back. 518 will also call at three new stops along Marina Bay area and 518A was also amended to terminate at Bayfront Ave.