Anybody knows the full fleet of 187 before the bendies were introduced?
Originally posted by Gus.chong:
Service 103 previously existed as a service between Jalan Kayu and New Bridge Rd via Yio Chu Kang Rd/Link, Upp Serangoon Rd and Bendemeer Rd/Jln Besar.
Service 103W: Supplment of Service 103 to operate from Serangoon Int and loop at Seletar West Camp. Cover for Service 379.
Service 378: Withdrawn as a Jalan Kayu Ter - Picadilly Rd service. Route fully covered by amended Service 103.
Service 379: Withdrawn as a Jalan Kayu Ter - Seletar West Camp service. Route fully covered by new Service 103W.
This was also the time whereby the first aircon bus service plied into Seletar Camp areas ![]()
Originally posted by TIB657M:Anybody knows the full fleet of 187 before the bendies were introduced?
TIB 551J-559M + Some other rigids, if I am not wrong.
When new services like: 5, 57, 58, 59, 175 were introduced, ARBP 10 and 132 were upgraded from minority SD block to full DD block.
Originally posted by TIB657M:When new services like: 5, 57, 58, 59, 175 were introduced, ARBP 10 and 132 were upgraded from minority SD block to full DD block.
Alot of deployments took place in 2005-2007 took place with the mass introduction of new SBST services.
Originally posted by SMB32T:
Alot of deployments took place in 2005-2007 took place with the mass introduction of new SBST services.
- Full depot controlled: 39 went from full AMDEP to full BNDEP, whereas 159 went from full AMDEP to full HGDEP.
- Services suffered a downgrade from FAC to PAC/NAC: 32, 82, 103/M, 115, 158, 265, 315, 317, 401 etc.
- Service 32 was then the only CBD bound service to be downgraded to PAC fleet.
1. 401 was all the way FAC service I thought.
2. The bolded one, HGDEP made use of those former SLBP MK2s like: 1783, 1862 etc... to perm the services. To add-on: 95 and 96 also.
There's Sv 186
125 was PAC as well.
Originally posted by sbst275:There's Sv 186
79, 151 and 186 were downgraded to PAC when 170 became FAC. All JB-registered MK2s were spread around islandwide. Am I right?
Originally posted by TIB657M:
1. 401 was all the way FAC service I thought.
I remembered NAC N113CRBs ever did 401 somewhere in 2007-08 when they were still around then.
Originally posted by TIB657M:
79, 151 and 186 were downgraded to PAC when 170 became FAC. All JB-registered MK2s were spread around islandwide. Am I right?
Yup, also to add on services like 91 and 191 which downgraded all the way to fully NAC. Some NAC MK2s were dispatched over to AMDEP and BNDEP whereby it did services 3, 38, 107, 125, 291, 293 etc.
Originally posted by TIB657M:
79, 151 and 186 were downgraded to PAC when 170 became FAC. All JB-registered MK2s were spread around islandwide. Am I right?
170's FAC status was late 2001.
Tat time 125 was just launched as FAC Sv.
Originally posted by SMB32T:
Yup, also to add on services like 91 and 191 which downgraded all the way to fully NAC. Some NAC MK2s were dispatched over to AMDEP and BNDEP whereby it did services 3, 38, 107, 125, 291, 293 etc.
did the NACs ever did 60 before
Originally posted by SBS7382C:did the NACs ever did 60 before
Yes, it was a PAC service then merged from feeders 226 and 385. NAC Volvo MK2s from HGDEP ever did service 60.
In the past before WLDEP was opened, was 167 under majority AM?
167 under AM: TIB 496K-510C, + TIB 727U and 781L
Originally posted by sbst275:
Tat time 125 was just launched as FAC Sv.
Service 125 used to be a peak hour service between St Michaels to Shenton Way loop service, and there was once it was converted from NAC to FAC, then to PAC and back to FAC again. In 2001 service 125 was amended to loop at Sims Ave and merged with former service 20. 125 was still FAC then, but shortly after it was downgraded to PAC service with NAC N113CRBs and NAC MK2s.
Originally posted by TIB 781 L:In the past before WLDEP was opened, was 167 under majority AM?
167 under AM: TIB 496K-510C, + TIB 727U and 781L
AMDEP had majority controlled for a start when it was newly converted to PAC in 1995 with 0405 perms (496K - 505T). 374D and 375B later joined into service 167's fleet too (not sure whether AMDEP or KJDEP controlling it then).
If I remember correctly somewhere in Mar 1996 there were another major deployments took place for 167. It looked like KJDEP took some 167's duties from AMDEP. The newly registered 798P 799L 808U 809S 810L 821E 822C from KJDEP became perm 167, whereas 496K 498E 501D 504X left the fleet with the 2 Nissan UDs.
Before service 167 was made PAC these were among the NAC Nissan UDs that did 167: 264M 267E 273L 276D 277B 285C 308X 309T 321G
Originally posted by SMB32T:
AMDEP had majority controlled for a start when it was newly converted to PAC in 1995 with 0405 perms (496K - 505T). 374D and 375B later joined into service 167's fleet too (not sure whether AMDEP or KJDEP controlling it then).If I remember correctly somewhere in Mar 1996 there were another major deployments took place for 167. It looked like KJDEP took some 167's duties from AMDEP. The newly registered 798P 799L 808U 809S 810L 821E 822C from KJDEP became perm 167, whereas 496K 498E 501D 504X left the fleet with the 2 Nissan UDs.
When 167 was in full WLDEP in 2000, How many fleets it received?
Originally posted by TIB 781 L:
So when did 781L left the 167 fleet?
Just before WLDEP opened in Oct 1998. TIB781L went to 103 if I am not mistaken.
Originally posted by SMB32T:
Service 125 used to be a peak hour service between St Michaels to Shenton Way loop service, and there was once it was converted from NAC to FAC, then to PAC and back to FAC again. In 2001 service 125 was amended to loop at Sims Ave and merged with former service 20. 125 was still FAC then, but shortly after it was downgraded to PAC service with NAC N113CRBs and NAC MK2s.
If I did remember it wasn't as fast as 151 getting into PAC fleet. 125's launch was relatively close to 170's conversion to FAC.
Unless...
Tat said there's no need to drag in the Shenton Way era as it's alrdy Sims Place when 170 was converted ![]()
Originally posted by SMB32T:
Just before WLDEP opened in Oct 1998. TIB781L went to 103 if I am not mistaken.
781L did 811 before dropping to 171 around 2000 I guess?
Originally posted by TIB 781 L:When 167 was in full WLDEP in 2000, How many fleets it received?
Should be 16-18 buses. This were the perms in 1999-2000 that I can remember:
NAC: 313E 315A 318S 833X 834T
AC: 565U 651D 653Z 655T 657M 658K 660C 661A 662Y 663U 822C
(most of the OAC Scanias are till perm till today)
Note that in early 2001, service 167 and 980 were made both dual AMDEP/WLDEP controlled. As such some of the OAC Scanias like TIB658K went over to perm 980 from then.
Originally posted by TIB 781 L:
781L did 811 before dropping to 171 around 2000 I guess?
Think it did 103 then went over to 811 or 171 where it was converted CAC.
Services which had 1 SD block being converted to 1 DD Block:
98 (SBS9061R replaced SBS3840Z), 157 (SBS9024Z replaced SBS188T), 179 (SBS9176T replaced SBS3858Z) and many more.......
*SBS' Previous Fleet Deployment*
Service 67 (only current un-deregisted buses will be mentioned)
SBS413T SBS415M
2 Mercedes Benz O405 (2 DM)
SBS904T SBS905R SBS906M SBS907K SBS908K SBS909E SBS910A SBS911Y SBS912U SBS913S SBS914P SBS915L SBS916J SBS917G SBS918D SBS919B SBS920X SBS921T SBS922R SBS923M SBS924K SBS925H SBS926E SBS927C SBS928A SBS929Y SBS930S SBS931P SBS932L SBS933J SBS934G SBS1896M SBS1911R SBS1912M SBS1913K SBS1914H SBS1915E SBS1916C SBS1917A SBS1929R SBS1930K SBS1931H SBS1932E SBS1933C SBS1945T SBS1946R SBS1947M SBS1948K SBS1970U SBS1971S SBS2646A SBS2647Y SBS2648U SBS2649S SBS2650L SBS2651J SBS2652G SBS2653D SBS2654B
59 Volvo Mark IV (28 Strider / 31 DM)
SBS582M SBS622G SBS626X SBS627T SBS637P SBS645R SBS646M SBS653S SBS654P SBS667C SBS668A SBS672L SBS676B SBS678X SBS680M SBS681K SBS688S SBS696T SBS745K SBS746H SBS747E SBS748C SBS749A SBS750U SBS751S SBS752P SBS753L SBS754J SBS755G SBS756D SBS757B SBS801G SBS802D
33 Volvo Mark III
Originally posted by SMB92U:*SBS' Previous Fleet Deployment*
Service 67 (only current un-deregisted buses will be mentioned)
SBS413T SBS415M
2 Mercedes Benz O405 (2 DM)
SBS904T SBS905R SBS906M SBS907K SBS908K SBS909E SBS910A SBS911Y SBS912U SBS913S SBS914P SBS915L SBS916J SBS917G SBS918D SBS919B SBS920X SBS921T SBS922R SBS923M SBS924K SBS925H SBS926E SBS927C SBS928A SBS929Y SBS930S SBS931P SBS932L SBS933J SBS934G SBS1896M SBS1911R SBS1912M SBS1913K SBS1914H SBS1915E SBS1916C SBS1917A SBS1929R SBS1930K SBS1931H SBS1932E SBS1933C SBS1945T SBS1946R SBS1947M SBS1948K SBS1970U SBS1971S SBS2646A SBS2647Y SBS2648U SBS2649S SBS2650L SBS2651J SBS2652G SBS2653D SBS2654B
59 Volvo Mark IV (28 Strider / 31 DM)SBS582M SBS622G SBS626X SBS627T SBS637P SBS645R SBS646M SBS653S SBS654P SBS667C SBS668A SBS672L SBS676B SBS678X SBS680M SBS681K SBS688S SBS696T SBS745K SBS746H SBS747E SBS748C SBS749A SBS750U SBS751S SBS752P SBS753L SBS754J SBS755G SBS756D SBS757B SBS801G SBS802D
33 Volvo Mark III
I don't think 67 had such a big fleet but rather these are some buses which ever perm 67. Was 67 under hgdep before?
1913K - 1917A, 1931H - 1933C went to 166 straight after the handover , at the same time the 166 Mercs went over to 103. (shift of control from majority amdep to bbdep)
1946R went to arbp 14, 754J 1911R 1947M 1948K went to arbp 65