Past bus routes and deployment
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Originally posted by SBS9364S:
7198, 7226, 7238 and 7241 x-fered to BBDEP after JIS became PAC service. 7198 & 7226 permed 74 for a short while before went back SLBP. Whereas 7238 & 7241 'permed' ARBP forever. 7238 replaced 865 on 91 whereas 7241 remained as 93 permer.May I know you quoted this post for..?
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Originally posted by SBS 233 X:
May I know you quoted this post for..?
Sorry, I had edited my previous post =) -
Originally posted by SBS9364S:
Sorry, I had edited my previous post =)
He didn't ask for any extra info, so you don't have to carry on from there. -
Originally posted by sbs&tibs:
I remember seeing LO3x and Mercs on 502 before the route amendment. 9120D was perm on 502, and served awhile more after the route amendment before 502 was reduced to full SD fleet. 9120D went arbp as SP and then perm 10. So 502 was under bbdep before or which jurong before slbp era?507 had no DDs? Yeah, the Striders went over to slbp for a short while and returned to bbdep after the PA Mercs perm 502 and 507. Some of those 264x Striders went to slbp and back to bbdep. Remember seeing a pic of 1897Z on 157 when slbp was new.
Ya, 9120 with the bridgestone or firestone?, anyway a tyre ad during that time in 2000 or so
.To jasonhsu: hmm, i think the days when 502 still up to sengkang its partial control bet SL/HG. I rmb seeing these buses on 502, most on repeated basis so i take it as perms
HG: 9326C, 9537K, 9659 (iirc), 9676, 9677 (tbc). I did have a 2733 tix on 502 but dont know if its perm.
SL have a group of WA mercs like 96A, 128S, 137, 155. The rest of the fleet I've forgotten alr.
Now thinking about 507, didnt really trace on its fleet. It occur that they seem like BB than SL cos of striders
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Originally posted by Spanish hog:
Ya, 9120 with the bridgestone or firestone?, anyway a tyre ad during that time in 2000 or so.
To jasonhsu: hmm, i think the days when 502 still up to sengkang its partial control bet SL/HG. I rmb seeing these buses on 502, most on repeated basis so i take it as perms
HG: 9326C, 9537K, 9659 (iirc), 9676, 9677 (tbc). I did have a 2733 tix on 502 but dont know if its perm.
SL have a group of WA mercs like 96A, 128S, 137, 155. The rest of the fleet I've forgotten alr.
Now thinking about 507, didnt really trace on its fleet. It occur that they seem like BB than SL cos of striders
Yup, the tyre ad. I think it was Firestone?502 had 2677K 9300B 9609L from hgdep side too. It was majority hgdep if I am not wrong. Always see Volvo more than Mercs.
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Originally posted by sbs&tibs:
Yup, the tyre ad. I think it was Firestone?502 had 2677K 9300B 9609L from hgdep side too. It was majority hgdep if I am not wrong. Always see Volvo more than Mercs.
its the firestone ad that 9120D had
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Originally posted by sbs&tibs:
112 113 were already PAC from the start.
Services 112 and 113 used NAC and CAC Volvo MK2s from the former Hougang South 32x feeders.Whereas service 101 used OAC and NAC Scania N113 CRBs from AMDEP for a start, those NAC buses were mainly from service 107 before extended to Hougang interchange. Things turned slightly better for service 101 when came under HGDEP with more AC buses deployed from HG side.
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Originally posted by One Harmonius Blend:
nv been to WLDEP before, so i nvr know, but i will go one day
anyway, is KJDEP located somewhere near the turf club? or the route 178,961,960 take, then turn left inside? Just to confirm though
If you want to know the exact location where KJDEP is, take service 925 and you will see it. Is deep inside Kranji Road after the railway crossing. -
Originally posted by SBS 8030 L:
lols, used to like seeing Express 502 getting those fancy buses from HGDEP like Dennis Tridents, VSOs, VO3X, MK 3 etc. If im not wrong, combined HGDEP & SLBP fleet buses for 502 should be around 49-51 buses in total??
Yes, HGDEP used to deploy all the fanciful buses for Express 502 (Tridants, VSOs, VO3x, Volvo MK4s etc). Enjoyed riding on them from Orchard to Boon Lay, express along Holland Road and Ulu Pandan Road in the past.After being cutback in 2003, 502 came under full SLBP with all the boring Merc fleets.
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Originally posted by SMB32T:
Services 112 and 113 used NAC and CAC Volvo MK2s from the former Hougang South 32x feeders.Whereas service 101 used OAC and NAC Scania N113 CRBs from AMDEP for a start, those NAC buses were mainly from service 107 before extended to Hougang interchange. Things turned slightly better for service 101 when came under HGDEP with more AC buses deployed from HG side.
Off-topic: But one thing I don't really understand is:Why the SBST website and bus guides stated 101, 112 and 113 as FAC service since they had PAC permers from the start?
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Originally posted by Spanish hog:
Now thinking about 507, didnt really trace on its fleet. It occur that they seem like BB than SL cos of striders
Striders were replaced by PA Merczs on 507 when 711/712/713 ceased on service. They were spread among 335, 502 and 507 mostly.When 507 ceased operation, 183 was re-introduced. So, SBST put ex-507 permers on 183.
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Originally posted by SBS9364S:
Off-topic: But one thing I don't really understand is:Why the SBST website and bus guides stated 101, 112 and 113 as FAC service since they had PAC permers from the start?
Bus guides were not accurate sometimes especially for some SBST services with either PAC or FAC status, so is the SBST website. SBST deployments might have adhoc changes at times.Anyway currently all SBST services are FAC except for services 74, 91, 93, 182, 192, 193 and JIS services which still have perm VO2x.
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For Tibs/SMRT services which had a number of major redeployments due to WLDEP opening followed by mass CCK/BBT and SKG/PUN SBS/Tibs swop in 1999...
In the past before WLDEP opened,
AMDEP/KJDEP dual control
160, 167, 169, 855, 856Full AMDEP
All Yishun (except 852 which is full KJ), Jln Kayu and northeast corridor Tibs servicesFull KJDEP
852, 927 and all Woodlands and Bt Panjang servicesWhen WLDEP opened in 1998,
Full KJDEP
700, 911, 912, 913, 925, 926, 927, 960, 964 and all Bt Panjang servicesKJDEP/WLDEP dual control
167, 178, 181, 187, 852AMDEP/WLDEP dual control
160, 169, 171, 851, 853, 854, 855, 856
>> Eventually 851 and 856 became full WLDEPFull WLDEP
811, 812, 858, 900, 903All the Tibs services in Northeast corridors remain as full AMDEP, together with feeders 800 and 804.
And in 1999-2000 when Tibs swop with SBS,
Full WLDEP
167, 178, 187, 700, 911, 912, 913, 960, 961 (former 181), 964
>> services 925 and 926 remained as KJDEP thruoutFull AMDEP
171, 811, 812, 853, 854, 855, 859*, 980 (former 160)* Service 859 was introduced in Apr 1999 with full OAC Scania fleet from WLDEP.
AMDEP/KJDEP dual control
67, 852Whereas KJDEP operated all the CCK services when Tibs take over from SBS.
When BBT came under Tibs in 2000,
Full WLDEP
75, 177, 184
>> services 176 and 180 remained full KJDEP thruoutFull AMDEP
852AMDEP/KJDEP dual control
61, 106All other BBT services came under full KJDEP.
Feeder 343 was renumbered to 921 in Apr 2000 and converted to PAC, duties were handed over to WLDEP with TIB322D and TIB638T perm. On the same day feeder 920 was introduced and was under WLDEP too.
Another round of depot transfers took place in early 2001,
Full AMDEP
851Full WLDEP
859AMDEP/WLDEP dual control
167, 980Service 852 went back to dual AMDEP/KJDEP.
However with the introduction of services 962, 965 and 969 in 2001-2002, services 177 and 184 returned to full KJDEP.
Somewhere in 2004, services 852 and 859 went back under full AMDEP. Service 980's WLDEP duties were reduced and given to AMDEP when service 950 was introduced in Sept 2004.
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Originally posted by SMB32T:
Bus guides were not accurate sometimes especially for some SBST services with either PAC or FAC status, so is the SBST website. SBST deployments might have adhoc changes at times.Anyway currently all SBST services are FAC except for services 74, 91, 93, 182, 192, 193 and JIS services which still have perm VO2x.
179 too. They still have one VO2x perm via morning peak x-over from 255: SBS7288S. -
Originally posted by SMB32T:
For Tibs/SMRT services which had a number of major redeployments due to WLDEP opening followed by mass CCK/BBT and SKG/PUN SBS/Tibs swop in 1999...
In the past before WLDEP opened,
AMDEP/KJDEP dual control
160, 167, 169, 855, 856Full AMDEP
All Yishun (except 852 which is full KJ), Jln Kayu and northeast corridor Tibs servicesFull KJDEP
852, 927 and all Woodlands and Bt Panjang servicesWhen WLDEP opened in 1998,
Full KJDEP
700, 911, 912, 913, 925, 926, 927, 960, 964 and all Bt Panjang servicesKJDEP/WLDEP dual control
167, 178, 181, 187, 852AMDEP/WLDEP dual control
160, 169, 171, 851, 853, 854, 855, 856
>> Eventually 851 and 856 became full WLDEPFull WLDEP
811, 812, 858, 900, 903All the Tibs services in Northeast corridors remain as full AMDEP, together with feeders 800 and 804.
And in 1999-2000 when Tibs swop with SBS,
Full WLDEP
167, 178, 187, 700, 911, 912, 913, 960, 961 (former 181), 964
>> services 925 and 926 remained as KJDEP thruoutFull AMDEP
171, 811, 812, 853, 854, 855, 859*, 980 (former 160)* Service 859 was introduced in Apr 1999 with full OAC Scania fleet from WLDEP.
AMDEP/KJDEP dual control
67, 852Whereas KJDEP operated all the CCK services when Tibs take over from SBS.
When BBT came under Tibs in 2000,
Full WLDEP
75, 177, 184
>> services 176 and 180 remained full KJDEP thruoutFull AMDEP
852AMDEP/KJDEP dual control
61, 106All other BBT services came under full KJDEP.
Feeder 343 was renumbered to 921 in Apr 2000 and converted to PAC, duties were handed over to WLDEP with TIB322D and TIB638T perm. On the same day feeder 920 was introduced and was under WLDEP too.
Another round of depot transfers took place in early 2001,
Full AMDEP
851Full WLDEP
859AMDEP/WLDEP dual control
167, 980Service 852 went back to dual AMDEP/KJDEP.
However with the introduction of services 962, 965 and 969 in 2001-2002, services 177 and 184 returned to full KJDEP.
Somewhere in 2004, services 852 and 859 went back under full AMDEP. Service 980's WLDEP duties were reduced and given to AMDEP when service 950 was introduced in Sept 2004.
You Can Teach "History Of SMRT Buses" le.
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Originally posted by SMB66X:
You Can Teach "History Of SMRT Buses" le.
Yeah... I was once a Tibs bus fan, joined the Friends of Tibs way back in 1998
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Originally posted by SMB32T:
Full WLDEP
859However with the introduction of services 962, 965 and 969 in 2001-2002, services 177 and 184 returned to full KJDEP.
Somewhere in 2004, services 852 and 859 went back under full AMDEP. Service 980's WLDEP duties were reduced and given to AMDEP when service 950 was introduced in Sept 2004.
Service 859 went full WLDEP on 14 Jan 2001.
Service 184 was transferred to KJDEP in 2003, the day which 966 was introduced. The bendies (1165J - 1171R) from WL184 were then distributed to 187, 856 and 962.
Service 859 went back to AMDEP on 5 September 2004. The bendies 1001Z, 1242U, 1244P and 1246J went to service 856. It got 1237K, 1238H, 1241Y and one more Habit in return.
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Originally posted by off_service:
Service 859 went full WLDEP on 14 Jan 2001.
Service 184 was transferred to KJDEP in 2003, the day which 966 was introduced. The bendies (1165J - 1171R) from WL184 were then distributed to 187, 856 and 962.
The current volgren bendy perms on 962 all from WLDEP 184. (1184, 1188)AMong all, only TIB1171R went over AMDEP.
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Originally posted by SBS9364S:
The current volgren bendy perms on 962 all from WLDEP 184. (1184, 1188)AMong all, only TIB1171R went over AMDEP.
I think the Volgren Bendies on 184 were 1193C and 1194A. Or at least till late 2002.
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I still can remember VO2x on 157 (those from SLBP).. rmb I took SBS7198T on 157 in 2004.
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anyone remembers which bus is swapped for SBS9614X?
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I remember taking my first Bendy ride, Square Box bendy on 61, not sure which depot.
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Originally posted by off_service:
Service 859 went full WLDEP on 14 Jan 2001.
Service 859 went back to AMDEP on 5 September 2004. The bendies 1001Z, 1242U, 1244P and 1246J went to service 856. It got 1237K, 1238H, 1241Y and one more Habit in return.
Should be TIB1098U. When service 859 got extended in Nov 2005, TIB490B and TIB773K were added into the fleet.And on 23 March last year went back to WLDEP again lol
Service 859 as far as I can remember got swopped between WLDEP and AMDEP like almost 5 times already since its introduction in 1999. Started off with OAC Scania fleets then to Lance fleets under AMDEP after which got upgraded to Habits, then back to WLDEP with 0405Gs. And currently now with Scania and bendy fleets.
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Originally posted by SMB66X:
I remember taking my first Bendy ride, Square Box bendy on 61, not sure which depot.
Should be KJDEP. AMDEP don't have the TIB8xx MB0405Gs unless it is the 2nd Hispano batch. -
Originally posted by SMB32T:
Should be TIB1098U. When service 859 got extended in Nov 2005, TIB490B and TIB773K were added into the fleet.And on 23 March last year went back to WLDEP again lol
Service 859 as far as I can remember got swopped between WLDEP and AMDEP like almost 5 times already since its introduction in 1999. Started off with OAC Scania fleets then to Lance fleets under AMDEP after which got upgraded to Habits, then back to WLDEP with 0405Gs. And currently now with Scania and bendy fleets.
Ah yes... 1098U...
Lol.. yeah 859 is like a ping pong ball... If I remember...
April 1999: Full Scania L113 WA
Late 1999: Full Dennis Lance fleet
June 2000: 1049L became part of the fleet on 18 June, launch of Habits
Late 2000: 1054X, 1057M added, replacing all rigids. 1049L, 1054X, 1057M is the full fleet
Jan 2001: Fleet changed to 1001Z, 1046U, 1063U, 1111PFleet stays pretty much the same until Jan 2004
Jan 2004: 1242U, 1244P, 1246J replaces 1046U, 1063U, 1111P
Sep 2004: Service came under AMDEP, with the bendies mentioned above.
May 2005: Interchange opens. Fleet addition of 3 rigids.These rigids also got thrown around until 490B ended up on 859 again..
Service stayed with AMDEP until the latest transfer which we see 859 going full WLDEP again.