Army Open House (AOH) 2009
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Originally posted by TownLink 291:
Today buses move off when there are full pax.
Standard for SAFCos e indent is based on per trip, of course would wait till fully seated to depart
But such method isn't good esp e crowd comes from Westbound train every 4 - 7 mins
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Originally posted by sbst275:
Standard for SAFCos e indent is based on per trip, of course would wait till fully seated to depart
But such method isn't good esp e crowd comes from Westbound train every 4 - 7 mins
First thing is, this isn't an indent for buses, its a tender contract, whereby it doesn't go by per bus/trip/hour, like how an indent would.
Second thing is the buses don't go based on per trip, its per head, a person from TNC would take down the rego and the number of passengers on board the bus, got see what's on the clip board? Standard procedure for SAF bus contracts.
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Originally posted by Scania:
First thing is, this isn't an indent for buses, its a tender contract, whereby it doesn't go by per bus/trip/hour, like how an indent would.
Second thing is the buses don't go based on per trip, its per head, a person from TNC would take down the rego and the number of passengers on board the bus, got see what's on the clip board? Standard procedure for SAF bus contracts.
Even so isn't it e same? per trip or per head since it's all based on capacity since e buses wun depart unless filled? -
Originally posted by sbst275:
Even so isn't it e same? per trip or per head since it's all based on capacity since e buses wun depart unless filled?The previous AOH was a tender based on per trip, Comfort Bus went in (sub some to SBST), they dint count any head, some buses were running full, some buses practically empty, towards the end, and you could still head to Pasir Laba at 6 pm (partly due to there being a few night activities). If its by head then, you think you can enter after 4 pm? TNC wouldn't want to gamble with potential not-so-full trips after 4pm whereby they may not even recover the cost of having the buses running. Comfort was able to make do with empty trips as they are paid for the trips, instead of being shortchanged.
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on e look, everything nicely say 'per head'.. but ends up only leave when filled, bao jiak biz alrdy
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Originally posted by sbst275:
on e look, everything nicely say 'per head'.. but ends up only leave when filled, bao jiak biz alrdy
Cos, as I said before, TNC won't want to run buses with even one less passenger, cos the buses are not theirs (they have, I believe, no buses themselves for hire at all) and they have to pay the respective operators for the trips they run. Those operators charge TNC per trip, while TNC charge SAF per head, so TNC has no choice but to fill up all the seats. Private bus operations in Singapore is not as simple as you think.
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Sori , didn't really get TNC? Is it a company? Any full abbreviations?
Thanks
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ai ya SAF open house got alot of wayang one lah.
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Originally posted by Tident:
Sori , didn't really get TNC? Is it a company? Any full abbreviations?
Thanks
Transit Network Consortium.
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Originally posted by sbst275:
Standard for SAFCos e indent is based on per trip, of course would wait till fully seated to depart
But such method isn't good esp e crowd comes from Westbound train every 4 - 7 mins
If the there is a constant flow of crowd coming in, the bus will up filled up in less than 5mins.
Think abt it..
wouldnt it be better if the bus come, open door then u can bord the bus first to enjoy the seat and aircon ?
Rather than standing in the queue line and wait for the bus to come then u board then the bus zao ?
Seriously,
If you were on the groud, you would have know.
On the 1st few days of AOH when there wasnt much ppl, buses DID depart BNL/JR Camp/PLC half-empty or even empty at one point of another. Buses were at the berth waiting for at most 5mins before they were being pushed off. -
Originally posted by Scania:
The previous AOH was a tender based on per trip, Comfort Bus went in (sub some to SBST), they dint count any head, some buses were running full, some buses practically empty, towards the end, and you could still head to Pasir Laba at 6 pm (partly due to there being a few night activities). If its by head then, you think you can enter after 4 pm? TNC wouldn't want to gamble with potential not-so-full trips after 4pm whereby they may not even recover the cost of having the buses running. Comfort was able to make do with empty trips as they are paid for the trips, instead of being shortchanged.
The tender this time round is NOT by Trips.
SAF gives out the tender stating the number of expected crowd that they would be expecting everyday during the Open House.
Bus companies would then tender for it by stating how many buses they would be deploying on the different days and how much.
The staffs at the different departure points are counting the number of ppl departing is actually for admin purposes. So that they can actually decide if they shld grab any additional buses or they shld take out extra buses. Its actually up to them. At the same time, they record down the rego so as to have better control over the buses. As this time round, the tender went out to TNC and the buses belongs to different co. by recording down the departure timings and rego would ensure that they bus drivers do not wander off somewhere else.