[Photos of Buses] September 2009
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Originally posted by SBS 233 X:
Next time I spotted a cameo, I will paste a A4 side paper outside every interchange exit to inform all bus fans that this bus is on this particular service.
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Originally posted by SBS9276M:
Chill, I agree with you. No offence, but my take is that I find it very petty that just over a little confrontational post, that you get offensive, with your gang of friends and collectively criticise people. Are you that insecure?
It is like the astrologer who is an expert has the resource, the expertise for the research of astronomy and the simple amateur who just uses a simple telescope as a hobby for leisure and pleasure, just to look at the stars for fun.
I just don't get why people must conform to a certain pattern when they don't have the intention or the resource to do so. Be it a simple camera phone, it is still a work of art to the person who posts it, the person who bothered to take the time to post it up here to share it to the community. People should show respect to the author even though you make not like what he has presented.
Actually I must say it takes two bowls to rush at each other before they break apart.
True that there may be some elements that become fired up and flame away at small things, but there are also times that some folks do not know the height of the sky and the vastness of the land and post items or thoughts that show that they are just too small.
知自知彼，百战百胜。 Know yourself well and you can succeed in every round.
PS: If you don't know what it means then you have to read between the sentences ;)
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Originally posted by SBS9276M:
Chill, I agree with you. No offence, but my take is that I find it very petty that just over a little confrontational post, that you get offensive, with your gang of friends and collectively criticise people. Are you that insecure?
It is like the astrologer who is an expert has the resource, the expertise for the research of astronomy and the simple amateur who just uses a simple telescope as a hobby for leisure and pleasure, just to look at the stars for fun.
I just don't get why people must conform to a certain pattern when they don't have the intention or the resource to do so. Be it a simple camera phone, it is still a work of art to the person who posts it, the person who bothered to take the time to post it up here to share it to the community. People should show respect to the author even though you make not like what he has presented.
yes. agreed in bold. however, it must at least be presentable. what i'll say is presentable is the subject of the photo, the bus, can be fully seen or almost fully seen or being taken as a portrait to the surrounding landscape, and not seen being cut off in all sorts of directions, upside down, diagonally. we'll take an example of a photo in this page of the topic, the 2 photos of 770T (excluding the photo of 770T being taken at the front) posted here, it may be acceptable by you but not acceptable by some if not many.
respect is something we give, but respect is only given when that person deserves it. if his artwork is something which is less than to be called a work of art (maybe in the context of those who rate bus photos here), do you think he should get the respect? to me, i'll say no. given the numerous amount of bus fans posting bus photos here, the presenter, along with other bus fans who currently post photos at the same standard as him, can learn to observe the photos that the others post and try to take a photo of the bus, fully. no offence to those who may feel offended by this.
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Originally posted by SBS315T:
Dare to say, dare to do
Can't you see people demanding for cameos?
To others: Read the posts carefully before jumpng to conclusion.
There is nothing wrong to be creative, especially to find a good location for a shot in pleasant conditions. There's no need to doubt his shots. Am I right to say people always make noise over "DAF" pics? Now there are people who are moving their comments onto proper pics, so what's exactly the point of posting pics?
And since one party has apologised, I don't see the reason why are some people still rubbing into it. Let's not be rude when you are asking a question, ok? Thanks.
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Originally posted by BusSpeeder:
yes. agreed in bold. however, it must at least be presentable. what i'll say is presentable is the subject of the photo, the bus, can be fully seen or almost fully seen or being taken as a portrait to the surrounding landscape, and not seen being cut off in all sorts of directions, upside down, diagonally. we'll take an example of a photo in this page of the topic, the 2 photos of 770T (excluding the photo of 770T being taken at the front) posted here, it may be acceptable by you but not acceptable by some if not many.
respect is something we give, but respect is only given when that person deserves it. if his artwork is something which is less than to be called a work of art (maybe in the context of those who rate bus photos here), do you think he should get the respect? to me, i'll say no. given the numerous amount of bus fans posting bus photos here, the presenter, along with other bus fans who currently post photos at the same standard as him, can learn to observe the photos that the others post and try to take a photo of the bus, fully. no offence to those who may feel offended by this.
Dignity. Who are we to decide how much or when to give it?
Again, who are we to judge what is nice or not?
No offense, but the general pictures around here that are considered "good" is pretty well, normal. It's the subject that counts here, not the quality, if you're gonna talk about "works of art" as far as this thread is concerned.
Well at least we don't see 50 cent pics lying around here these days, if you guys know what I'm talking about.
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sigh, just look at hk forums. there's just a varse difference in the attitude of the people there. i see photos posted by our fellow HK enthusiasts with real dark spots, parts of the bus chipped off, some even blurred, its fine to the people there, why cant it be here?
are we more superior? there's a difference between giving valuable advise and offensive criticism and there's a limit to everything.
it's like a boy is learning how to cycle, his parents should not just scold at his falls and leave him be but to help and guide him thru the falls? why not those who feel they have the chops learn to teach with patience and not to scold at every little fault that is made? otherwise, i feel you dun have the chops to criticise unless you truly show that you are willing to be patient to slowly guide them.
if they dun wanna cycle, just leave them its like talking to a wall.
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Originally posted by BusSpeeder:
yes. agreed in bold. however, it must at least be presentable. what i'll say is presentable is the subject of the photo, the bus, can be fully seen or almost fully seen or being taken as a portrait to the surrounding landscape, and not seen being cut off in all sorts of directions, upside down, diagonally. we'll take an example of a photo in this page of the topic, the 2 photos of 770T (excluding the photo of 770T being taken at the front) posted here, it may be acceptable by you but not acceptable by some if not many.
respect is something we give, but respect is only given when that person deserves it. if his artwork is something which is less than to be called a work of art (maybe in the context of those who rate bus photos here), do you think he should get the respect? to me, i'll say no. given the numerous amount of bus fans posting bus photos here, the presenter, along with other bus fans who currently post photos at the same standard as him, can learn to observe the photos that the others post and try to take a photo of the bus, fully. no offence to those who may feel offended by this.
i think that being yourself is more important. dun try and impersonate others. you have to respect other people's culture of doing stuff. you may like something done this way but that does not mean everyone should (:
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Originally posted by SBS2601D:
Dignity. Who are we to decide how much or when to give it?
Again, who are we to judge what is nice or not?
No offense, but the general pictures around here that are considered "good" is pretty well, normal. It's the subject that counts here, not the quality, if you're gonna talk about "works of art" as far as this thread is concerned.
Well at least we don't see 50 cent pics lying around here these days, if you guys know what I'm talking about.
I don't think saying anything makes much difference.Perfectonist or not, which month they doesn't fight?
How much more should you emphasize on peace? There are people who are jealous of other's pic, there are people who doubt each other skills, there are people who condemn others skills, there are people who dislike others, and there are people who teach and others don't learn.
Just leave it lah..
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Originally posted by sbs&tibs:
I don't think saying anything makes much difference.Perfectonist or not, which month they doesn't fight?
How much more should you emphasize on peace? There are people who are jealous of other's pic, there are people who doubt each other skills, there are people who condemn others skills, there are people who dislike others, and there are people who teach and others don't learn.
Just leave it lah..
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Originally posted by SBS2601D:
Dignity. Who are we to decide how much or when to give it?
Again, who are we to judge what is nice or not?
No offense, but the general pictures around here that are considered "good" is pretty well, normal. It's the subject that counts here, not the quality, if you're gonna talk about "works of art" as far as this thread is concerned.
Well at least we don't see 50 cent pics lying around here these days, if you guys know what I'm talking about.
given by your context, who can give then? anyone can give respects to each other. the matter of which is if they want to give or not. how are we not able to decide?
we cannot judge what is nice or not nice. that i agree. then i ask, if we cannot judge, who can?
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Originally posted by BusSpeeder:
given by your context, who can give then? anyone can give respects to each other. the matter of which is if they want to give or not. how are we not able to decide?
we cannot judge what is nice or not nice. that i agree. then i ask, if we cannot judge, who can?
a fair dose of respect should be given to each and every individual out there, regardless of the quality of the photos he posts. and that includes giving the person opportunity after opportunity to improve, rather than simply admonishing the person and offering no concrete solutions to the problem. if he doesn't wish to take your advice, then forget about it 'cos simply put, you've played your part and its perhaps someone else's turn to take on this challenge of helping the poor dude.
there is a very well-defined line between constructive criticism and personal attacks. though there will be tendencies for people to misconstrue each other's intentions, however well-meaning they may be.
however, from what i see, things here have been getting pretty personal of late. some thought fodder here..
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Aiyah, you all chill la.
Why must we have all these little fires being burnt up to big fires? You all dunno fire precautions ah?
Simple_Boi, I know you can have freedom of choosing locations of your pictures. But don't misuse your "seniority" huh... This isn't your place to do that.
And he seemed to already woke up. Just forgive him la.
Originally posted by Rk 2010:I know your photo standards are way higher than others. But that doesn't entitle you to tell people off in this kind of manner. And it also doesn't mean that other people will follow your standards. This maybe a little way out of hand in my own point of view, but I guess I have said my own piece. I will not be the one saying this again in future. Hope you think twice before talking. Would really appreciate that.
Originally posted by Simple_Boi:
Higher standard so what? Am I not allowed to go industrial area just to take photo of it? And what's more, I am not the only one who know about 896H on Sv257.
"Higher standard so what?" You are trying to misuse your seniority over here. Yes. I know he is trying to critisise you, but dun throw up your temper la. "Sorry" this word isn't made out for nothing.
So i wanna ask all: Enough?
And i am going to post up the first picture after this:
SBS8281D on service 162M. Taken on 12/09/09.
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Originally posted by SBS9818A:
a fair dose of respect should be given to each and every individual out there, regardless of the quality of the photos he posts. and that includes giving the person opportunity after opportunity to improve, rather than simply admonishing the person and offering no concrete solutions to the problem. if he doesn't wish to take your advice, then forget about it 'cos simply put, you've played your part and its perhaps someone else's turn to take on this challenge of helping the poor dude.
there is a very well-defined line between constructive criticism and personal attacks. though there will be tendencies for people to misconstrue each other's intentions, however well-meaning they may be.
however, from what i see, things here have been getting pretty personal of late. some thought fodder here..
i believe there's an example that i can point out. this example of a person (i will not name out that person, some people might know who i'm referring to) whom chances and respects are being given to him at first, yet he does not listen to what is said and takes things for granted, so now he has lose most, if not all, of the deserved attentions directed at him. he's not only given the opportunity by one person, but by many. since even the soft method approach fails, like you said, i've played my part and its someone else's turn to help. however, even this fails. this person that i mentioned is not alone as there is 1 or 2 other who are in the same status as him.
otherwise, i can fully agree with what you said here. matters are becoming personal recently.
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Originally posted by BusSpeeder:
i believe there's an example that i can point out. this example of a person (i will not name out that person, some people might know who i'm referring to) whom chances and respects are being given to him at first, yet he does not listen to what is said and takes things for granted, so now he has lose most, if not all, of the deserved attentions directed at him. he's not only given the opportunity by one person, but by many. since even the soft method approach fails, like you said, i've played my part and its someone else's turn to help. however, even this fails. this person that i mentioned is not alone as there is 1 or 2 other who are in the same status as him.
otherwise, i can fully agree with what you said here. matters are becoming personal recently.
pretty obvious who lol -
Blast from the past (Taken in 2007)
The final days of full WLDEP control Svc 961 and TIB536D's last few days in WLDEP.
Now in AMDEP:
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Originally posted by BusSpeeder:
i believe there's an example that i can point out. this example of a person (i will not name out that person, some people might know who i'm referring to) whom chances and respects are being given to him at first, yet he does not listen to what is said and takes things for granted, so now he has lose most, if not all, of the deserved attentions directed at him. he's not only given the opportunity by one person, but by many. since even the soft method approach fails, like you said, i've played my part and its someone else's turn to help. however, even this fails. this person that i mentioned is not alone as there is 1 or 2 other who are in the same status as him.
otherwise, i can fully agree with what you said here. matters are becoming personal recently.
in this scenario, you've done your best and time to move on. don't even bother flaming the fella because it's not going to bring about any benefits at all. it will simply result in people mis-using their perceived "seniority" or people taking things personal. one important thing to remember, live and let live..
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Originally posted by SBS9818A:
in this scenario, you've done your best and time to move on. don't even bother flaming the fella because it's not going to bring about any benefits at all. it will simply result in people mis-using their perceived "seniority" or people taking things personal. one important thing to remember, live and let live..
frankly speaking, i already gave up trying to help him. neither am i trying to involve myself in such issues nowadays since they reap no benefits. i'm seeing how these issues progresses though.
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Originally posted by BusSpeeder:
frankly speaking, i already gave up trying to help him. neither am i trying to involve myself in such issues nowadays since they reap no benefits. i'm seeing how these issues progresses though.
i think if everyone exercises a little bit more self control and bring any personal viewpoints or opinions out of the public domain, such things won't even happen in the first place.. so yup.
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Originally posted by lifelikedrama:
Nice.. but is it my display or your pic is abit overexposed?*not meant to be sarcastic..
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Originally posted by Interception_7:
Nice.. but is it my display or your pic is abit overexposed?*not meant to be sarcastic..
well, i think could be the shutter speed or the aperture..
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Originally posted by Interception_7:
Nice.. but is it my display or your pic is abit overexposed?*not meant to be sarcastic..
you're right. the whites part of the photo is slightly overexposed. dun worry with giving comments on my photos be it gd or bad. i take it with gd intentions.
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Originally posted by nenepokey:
well, i think could be the shutter speed or the aperture..
it's neither in this case. it's the works of photoshop. coz i like my photos to be brighter but i know it's abit over... lol
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is this better? lol
