SMRT Trials Mercedes Benz Citaro (O530)
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Originally posted by service_238:
you find it fast meh?
at least it overtook a VO while i was on that citaro :) -
Originally posted by SMB92U:
at least it overtook a VO while i was on that citaro :)
VO of course overtake la.. -
Originally posted by Stage:
VO of course overtake la..
:) at least citaro got a slower competitor le -
The only thing I noticed it didn't overtake when I sat it for many rounds were SMRT buses; especially Lance and O405.
SBST buses all got overtaken, especially 93 4 times at Queensway. 93 epic fail :D
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Originally posted by sgbuses:
1. The Citaro's engine has half the displacement of an OC500LE. I think there is some tradeoff being 100% low-floor.
as for this, there is an option to install an OM457hLA engine. if this engine is installed, expect the same power from the OC500LE.
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Saw it at Yishun Int parking at 855 berth today at around 1930hrs.
Cheers.
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i saw 8409 overtake the citaro while running along lornie rd without stopping bef.
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Originally posted by SGCar:
Saw it at Yishun Int parking at 855 berth today at around 1930hrs.
Cheers.
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If you guys want underpowered and slow, you need to come to Perth to experience this...
Engine is an Iveco Cursor 8 CNG which is a 7.8-litre, 6-cylinder unit. Power and torque output is 228kW/310hp and 1100Nm respectively. It has a ZF 6HP 504 gearbox.
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Originally posted by Powered_By_CNG:
If you guys want underpowered and slow, you need to come to Perth to experience this...
Engine is an Iveco Cursor 8 CNG which is a 7.8-litre, 6-cylinder unit. Power and torque output is 228kW/310hp and 1100Nm respectively. It has a ZF 6HP 504 gearbox.
RECORDINGHey, that pic was taken @ Mill Point Rd, yeah?
Anyway, isn't the Iveco bus division now part of Irisbus?
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Originally posted by iveco:
Hey, that pic was taken @ Mill Point Rd, yeah?
Anyway, isn't the Iveco bus division now part of Irisbus?
Wellington Street outside the bus station.
Irisbus is owned by Iveco, which still produces buses under the Iveco brand name (e.g. CityClass). This particular unit is a Citelis, which is made in France at the old Renault V.I. plant.
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Originally posted by Powered_By_CNG:
Wellington Street outside the bus station.
Ah, sorry. I thought it looked like one of the buildings in Sth Perth area. Anyway, must try to spot this bus myself. It's from Beckenham rite?
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Originally posted by iveco:
Ah, sorry. I thought it looked like one of the buildings in Sth Perth area. Anyway, must try to spot this bus myself. It's from Beckenham rite?
No, it's a Welshpool bus.
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Citaro almost overtook C151 when its heading to yio chu kang area from yishun.... the long stretch of road is an advantage to Citaro.....
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Originally posted by Powered_By_CNG:
If you guys want underpowered and slow, you need to come to Perth to experience this...
Engine is an Iveco Cursor 8 CNG which is a 7.8-litre, 6-cylinder unit. Power and torque output is 228kW/310hp and 1100Nm respectively. It has a ZF 6HP 504 gearbox.
RECORDING
it sounded fine....
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15 April 2010
I had been seen SMB136C on Trunk 854 at Bedok Interchange since 6.11pm.
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Haha.Finally as i was hoping,tis bus has cameoed alr....
Still waiting for it to come to Tampines and do either 969 or 67....
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wow 2 demos on 854 today
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Originally posted by SBS7485P:
i saw 8409 overtake the citaro while running along lornie rd without stopping bef.
Honestly,the kubs can really fly if the BCs floor them to the max as some i hav took b4....Is quite shiok actually.
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Originally posted by RU4127T:
The bus is seriously under-powered.
Happened to see the bus a few times on the road and i always see the bus struggling to make it's way out of the bus bay.
Don't understand why SMRT is willing to spend $500k to buy a cui bus when they can get a better bus at a more cheaper price.
U wan to compare a bus's pickup/speed perfomance in a such a tiny distance lik moving out of the bus stop??Wth is tis??U wan compare,compare properly lik along a highway or a long stretch of road lik tis la.... -
Originally posted by Merczrox:
U wan to compare a bus's pickup/speed perfomance in a such a tiny distance lik moving out of the bus stop??Wth is tis??U wan compare,compare properly lik along a highway or a long stretch of road lik tis la....Seriously, we're discussing the performance of CITY BUSES here. The initial take-off performance of a city bus is of uttermost importance if schedules are to be met. It is in start-stop situations where the Scania K-series fails miserably. The underpowered engines make pulling out of bus stops a chore and add to the stress that a bus driver has to endure on a day to day basis. The K-series also does not give the driver control of how hard the engine should rev and this makes driving them even more of a chore than necessary.
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Originally posted by RU4127T:
The bus is seriously under-powered.
Happened to see the bus a few times on the road and i always see the bus struggling to make it's way out of the bus bay.
Don't understand why SMRT is willing to spend $500k to buy a cui bus when they can get a better bus at a more cheaper price.
Slow? Didn't feel slow to me when I took it yesterday. Rather, it was pretty quick coming out of bus bays. Took it during peak hours, so bus was pretty packed. Seemed to have slight trouble with extreme load, but it was pretty zippy the way the driver handled it.
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Originally posted by Powered_By_CNG:
Seriously, we're discussing the performance of CITY BUSES here. The initial take-off performance of a city bus is of uttermost importance if schedules are to be met. It is in start-stop situations where the Scania K-series fails miserably. The underpowered engines make pulling out of bus stops a chore and add to the stress that a bus driver has to endure on a day to day basis. The K-series also does not give the driver control of how hard the engine should rev and this makes driving them even more of a chore than necessary.
agreed totally. that's why the O405's will be missed here in singapore as they're progressively retired.
i wished we had citybuses with Allison transmission here. impressed by its pickup.
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Originally posted by ^tamago^:
agreed totally. that's why the O405's will be missed here in singapore as they're progressively retired.
i wished we had citybuses with Allison transmission here. impressed by its pickup.
Yea agreed.Wat to do..Life is lik tat..
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Originally posted by Powered_By_CNG:
Seriously, we're discussing the performance of CITY BUSES here. The initial take-off performance of a city bus is of uttermost importance if schedules are to be met. It is in start-stop situations where the Scania K-series fails miserably. The underpowered engines make pulling out of bus stops a chore and add to the stress that a bus driver has to endure on a day to day basis. The K-series also does not give the driver control of how hard the engine should rev and this makes driving them even more of a chore than necessary.
I find that if they are fitted with anything at and above 270, the difference could be felt.
Then again the axles fitted on the older buses like the O405 feature a much bigger ratio that helped with a similar rated engine... Albeit at a 8/15 kW difference from the K230 for the Pre-Euro and Euro 1 O405 respectively...