Accident and Breakdown Thread 2010
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they really shouldnt use the word 'suspended'. such a word gives an impression that the BC is in the wrong already......
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As I read the Stomp, I realised that the driver was spearheaded as the cause of the accident.
No drivers, local or foreign, will put his life and passenger at risk.
It is not logical.
As accordance to the witness account, the driver DID try to stop the bus but the brake seem to have failed.
So, it will be interesting on how the company conduct its investigation and the eventual result.
Another escape from hole in the toilet ?
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those slbp maintenance team should be liable for investigation also imo.
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Originally posted by SBS9818A:
whether the BC will get terminated or not is determined by who is at fault. judging from reports the bus experienced brake failure, so the fault may lie with the slbp workshop staff who might not have maintained the bus to standard.
it is rather stupid to jump into this conclusion. If u hav no concrete proof, pls do not jump into conclusion. SBS Transit had systematic way of maintaining their buses. All datas are recorded. -
Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
it is rather stupid to jump into this conclusion. If u hav no concrete proof, pls do not jump into conclusion. SBS Transit had systematic way of maintaining their buses. All datas are recorded.
The driver seemed to have been made the "scapegoat" for the accident. I think drivers have better welfare as they are the front line staff of the company, which needs the support from those backstage staff. -
Originally posted by sbs&tibs:
The driver seemed to have been made the "scapegoat" for the accident. I think drivers have better welfare as they are the front line staff of the company, which needs the support from those backstage staff.
Again, it is rather stupid to jump into this conclusion. If u hav no concrete proof, pls do not jump into conclusion. -
Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
Again, it is rather stupid to jump into this conclusion. If u hav no concrete proof, pls do not jump into conclusion.
Read the 1st post of this page by sinicker. He understood the press release by SBST. I didn't even say those mechanics are at fault. Don't put words into my mouth. -
Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
Again, it is rather stupid to jump into this conclusion. If u hav no concrete proof, pls do not jump into conclusion.Up till now you've already seen the nature of the accident and yet you still want to deny it. No BCs on this damned earth would want to risk the passenger lives and risk his job by coming up such stunts.
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Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
it is rather stupid to jump into this conclusion. If u hav no concrete proof, pls do not jump into conclusion. SBS Transit had systematic way of maintaining their buses. All datas are recorded.i rather think it should be you who shouldn't be jumping into conclusion when what he says do make sense. the news articles did state that the BC wasn't able to stop the bus when he tried to control the brake.
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Originally posted by SBS 8030 L:
Up till now you've already seen the nature of the accident and yet you still want to deny it. No BCs on this damned earth would want to risk the passenger lives and risk his job by coming up such stunts.
I am not saying the the BC is in fault. But that does not mean that it is SLWS problem and they had nt been maintaining the bus.By just reading the article, u will find a lot of loophole. The max speed for this bus is 60km/h, after it hits 3 cars shouldn't it should reduce the speed of the bus? If the BC were to shift to neutral, will it helps? Or it is possible to apply on/off on the handbrakes?
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Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
I am not saying the the BC is in fault. But that does not mean that it is SLWS problem and they had nt been maintaining the bus.By just reading the article, u will find a lot of loophole. The max speed for this bus is 60km/h, after it hits 3 cars shouldn't it should reduce the speed of the bus? If the BC were to shift to neutral, will it helps? Or it is possible to apply on/off on the handbrakes?
So you're blaming the press now? -
Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
I am not saying the the BC is in fault. But that does not mean that it is SLWS problem and they had nt been maintaining the bus.By just reading the article, u will find a lot of loophole. The max speed for this bus is 60km/h, after it hits 3 cars shouldn't it should reduce the speed of the bus? If the BC were to shift to neutral, will it helps? Or it is possible to apply on/off on the handbrakes?
We analyse that the situation was too sudden, and emergency stopping methods to turn off the engine or pull the handbrake is very dangerous. The driver himself might have panicked at the point of incident. I agree he could have change to N gear, but N gear could still keep the bus moving for a distance too. -
Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
I am not saying the the BC is in fault. But that does not mean that it is SLWS problem and they had nt been maintaining the bus.By just reading the article, u will find a lot of loophole. The max speed for this bus is 60km/h, after it hits 3 cars shouldn't it should reduce the speed of the bus? If the BC were to shift to neutral, will it helps? Or it is possible to apply on/off on the handbrakes?
it will slow down. but the deceleration isn't fast enough due to large momentum.
freewheeling.
ah ma fly out from front windscreen. -
Originally posted by sinicker:
it will slow down. but the deceleration isn't fast enough due to large momentum.
freewheeling.
ah ma fly out from front windscreen.
I thought since brakes failed, applying handbrakes don't work?
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Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
I am not saying the the BC is in fault. But that does not mean that it is SLWS problem and they had nt been maintaining the bus.By just reading the article, u will find a lot of loophole. The max speed for this bus is 60km/h, after it hits 3 cars shouldn't it should reduce the speed of the bus? If the BC were to shift to neutral, will it helps? Or it is possible to apply on/off on the handbrakes?
what makes you think the bus smashed into the bus stop at 60kmh?
mr ayam, do you even DRIVE? what makes you think the bus will come to a stop instantaneously after putting the gear into neutral? and if the brakes had failed, would the handbrake even be effective? the B10M braking system is driven by AIR, mind you, not disc brakes.
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Originally posted by sbs&tibs:
We analyse that the situation was too sudden, and emergency stopping methods to turn off the engine or pull the handbrake is very dangerous. The driver himself might have panicked at the point of incident. I agree he could have change to N gear, but N gear could still keep the bus moving for a distance too.R gear then press the acclerator?
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Originally posted by Beanman:
R gear then press the acclerator?
May lead to bus losing control and swerve rightwards into traffic. -
Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
it is rather stupid to jump into this conclusion. If u hav no concrete proof, pls do not jump into conclusion. SBS Transit had systematic way of maintaining their buses. All datas are recorded.the keyword is MIGHT. did i insinuate that the workshop team DID indeed cause the accident? unless u are telling me that brake failure is caused by the driver?
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Originally posted by TIB1232Z:
I thought since brakes failed, applying handbrakes don't work?
actually if traffic was light, maybe can try left turn go up the slope see can reach how far. -
Originally posted by sinicker:
actually if traffic was light, maybe can try left turn go up the slope see can reach how far.
Later enter HDB void decks how. -
the damage to the bus stop suggests that it's quite low speed anyways.
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Originally posted by sinicker:
ah ma fly out from front windscreen.
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Originally posted by Beanman:
R gear then press the acclerator?
then you will see bloody people boomz-ing out from the front windscreen machiam the bus vomitting half chewed raw humans via the front
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Originally posted by sinicker:
the damage to the bus stop suggests that it's quite low speed anyways.
Hannor. I think if at 60 km/h the bus would have pierced through the entire bus stop. -
from what i read, a passenger tried to steer the bus left.
That may be factor that caused the bus to end up in the bus stop after all.