Originally posted by SBS2692R:Well, if im right, there are 4 buses in that pic.
From left to right, its 9619, An LO, 9888Y and 7440T
9888Y is not the black one la.9888Y is beside 9619H.The black bus is still unidentified.
I wonder, let say after all the assessment by insurance, and related parties, would be feasible to like donate or convert those , engine and chassis savalgable, into mobile stuff like bookstore, library etc
Originally posted by service_238:
They need the police, insurers, safety officers, amongst other people, to access the damage as well as gather evidence to investigate the cause of the fire. So how are the buses be able to be sent to the scrapyard, furthermore a SUNDAY?Your thoughts ran too much.
9013E was towed to park at one corner of AMDEP (at the current inspection area) last time after being burnt and parked there for at least 6 months and cover with canvas before being removed... so most likely these buses will remain for quite some time.. 3833 was also keep at laid up corner for more than 6 months...
Originally posted by Merczrox:Yea the white DD is 9619H.
The black one in between the B9 and VSO,i am not sure.
The whole rear of that bus isnt completely burnt, it seems like an LO
Originally posted by SMB66X:The fire could be cause by 2 reason :
1) Weather are hot and bus engine can be easily catch fire if the engine is super hot at start.
2) Someone smoke inside the bus depot and threw a cigarette on the glass near those DDs
why dun you say that someone left behind a magnifying glass on one of the seat and then the moon light shine on it until it burn?
Originally posted by lemon1974:9013E was towed to park at one corner of AMDEP (at the current inspection area) last time after being burnt and parked there for at least 6 months and cover with canvas before being removed... so most likely these buses will remain for quite some time.. 3833 was also keep at laid up corner for more than 6 months...
ok so erm... the amdep exit will be closed for 6 months? or just that no buses can be parked there anymore and the exit remains open. I'm actually more interested at where service 25 parks now. hahaha. They have about 10 buses parked leading to the exit and the remaining ones may probably be parked at the 265/268/45 layover area.
Originally posted by wsy1234:AMK Deport never learn a lesson from last big fire that burn at the bus service 143 parking space that fire got 3 buses burned. should the deport expand the space of the bus park or get a new and bigger bus park so that the buses could not park so near to each other?
And have a few bus mechanic to check the buses that return to the deport at night for sign of engine over heating and also inspect the electrical part of all the buses especially the old buses every week for defect.
And also park all the new buses to one side and old buses another side of the deport to pervent heavy damange to new buses in case of fire, at least the old have one or two years on the road the cost of replacing them is less compare to the new buses.
how do depot expand the space? go where find the space? how to ensure that bus are not park close to each other? park 1 bus left two empty slots? then also cannot park back to back also...
how to inspect sign of engine overheating? the buses are running for almost 20-21 hours daily? weekly inspection of eletrical part? there is 2900 buses... so one day need to inspect how many buses?
Park new buses to one side to prevent heavy damage to new buses? What if the new buses caught fire? then all the new buses gone? Also, what do you mean by cost of replacing old bus is less than cost of replacing new buses? So if old buses is burn, go buy an old bus to replace? you still have to buy a new bus right? So how do you justify the cost of replacing an old bus is less compare to the new buses?
Originally posted by service_238:
ok so erm... the amdep exit will be closed for 6 months? or just that no buses can be parked there anymore and the exit remains open. I'm actually more interested at where service 25 parks now. hahaha. They have about 10 buses parked leading to the exit and the remaining ones may probably be parked at the 265/268/45 layover area.
no.. the exit was now being used as normal.. except for that burnt area, which was covered up by canvas.. those sv45/265/268 layover buses seem to park further inside...for sv25 buses , not sure where they park though... maybe at laid up corner?
THe black one could be a LO as there are only 6 buses being burnt mah.... although the black one seem to look like a VO to me
Originally posted by lemon1974:how do depot expand the space? go where find the space? how to ensure that bus are not park close to each other? park 1 bus left two empty slots? then also cannot park back to back also...
how to inspect sign of engine overheating? the buses are running for almost 20-21 hours daily? weekly inspection of eletrical part? there is 2900 buses... so one day need to inspect how many buses?
Park new buses to one side to prevent heavy damage to new buses? What if the new buses caught fire? then all the new buses gone? Also, what do you mean by cost of replacing old bus is less than cost of replacing new buses? So if old buses is burn, go buy an old bus to replace? you still have to buy a new bus right? So how do you justify the cost of replacing an old bus is less compare to the new buses?
agree.
Originally posted by lemon1974:no.. the exit was now being used as normal.. except for that burnt area, which was covered up by canvas.. those sv45/265/268 layover buses seem to park further inside...for sv25 buses , not sure where they park though... maybe at laid up corner?
think S25 case have to check after PM Peak..
The fire has nothing to do with side by side parking.No matter how far the gap misfortune will happen.This is about 80% human error 20% Technical.How to expand depot.Singapore already land scarce.Building a 10 storey depot just because this incident?
Yeah depots around the world have the similar format. A company cannot spend so much money to isolate buses from each other, let alone the cost against such an unpredictable incident. Buses do not go booms everyday in the company.
A company would rather spend money doing preventive maintenance and if possible getting new buses.
if buses with ad like 9619H burned in fire, then what Super Coffee going to deal with SBST? demand for compensation? ![]()
the black one is a LO3 to me..lol..
Originally posted by lemon1974:Park new buses to one side to prevent heavy damage to new buses? What if the new buses caught fire? then all the new buses gone? Also, what do you mean by cost of replacing old bus is less than cost of replacing new buses? So if old buses is burn, go buy an old bus to replace? you still have to buy a new bus right? So how do you justify the cost of replacing an old bus is less compare to the new buses?
Well, a new bus on the road have bring in a less income as of yet. A old bus which served SBST for a few years certainly has let the company earned some income of it. So the earned income can be used to cover the cost of a new bus.
Originally posted by service_238:
The whole rear of that bus isnt completely burnt, it seems like an LO
i c.
Originally posted by Samuel Lee:Well, a new bus on the road have bring in a less income as of yet. A old bus which served SBST for a few years certainly has let the company earned some income of it. So the earned income can be used to cover the cost of a new bus.
huh? when an old bus gets prematurely withdrawn the cost of replacing it will be the cost of a new bus what. how to use income previously earned to "cover" such costs?
Originally posted by JaSoNhSu92:if buses with ad like 9619H burned in fire, then what Super Coffee going to deal with SBST? demand for compensation?
Plaster a new ad on another S25 bus.
Originally posted by SBS9818A:huh? when an old bus gets prematurely withdrawn the cost of replacing it will be the cost of a new bus what. how to use income previously earned to "cover" such costs?
it makes sense in accrual accounting terms since the salvage value of an older bus will be lower than that of a newer one.
though in cash terms, you are right to say there is no difference.
Not the first time AMDEP kena fire. I think 10-12 years ago also something similar happened. What exactly was the cause?
Originally posted by lemon1974:no KUB burnt.. the stomp photos are from SCDF, if i am not wrong... but then tomorrow confirm that you will see 502* series KUB on the road...
SBST reusing 50xx series regoes? 5625-5999 still unused.
Originally posted by wsy1234:AMK Deport never learn a lesson from last big fire that burn at the bus service 143 parking space that fire got 3 buses burned. should the deport expand the space of the bus park or get a new and bigger bus park so that the buses could not park so near to each other?
And have a few bus mechanic to check the buses that return to the deport at night for sign of engine over heating and also inspect the electrical part of all the buses especially the old buses every week for defect.
And also park all the new buses to one side and old buses another side of the deport to pervent heavy damange to new buses in case of fire, at least the old have one or two years on the road the cost of replacing them is less compare to the new buses.
Did 143 park @ AMDEP? I am sure this route was TPDEP (now BRBP) responsibility all along.
Originally posted by fireice rox:SIX double-decker buses, worth about $3 million, went up in flames at the Ang Mo Kio bus depot Sunday morning.
Bus drivers arriving for work at the depot along Ang Mo Kio Street 63 were confronted by the acrid smell of smoke, and the burnt-out shells of the smouldering half-dozen buses.
'There were so many policemen and firemen around. I was shocked to hear that six buses had been burned...this is the first time I have seen anything like this,' said one 44-year-old bus driver, who arrived around 5.30am.
The Singapore Civil Defence Force (SCDF) is currently investigating the cause of the fire, though it is not known at this point if someone deliberately set fire to vehicles, estimated to be about $500,000 each.
The SCDF added that the fire was contained within the six buses, as the rest of the fleet were parked farther away. A security guard on duty raised the alarm. No one was hurt.
To ensure the morning services were not disrupted, buses were redeployed from other depots. The six buses all plied the No.25 route from Ang Mo Kio interchange to Bedok interchange. A spokesman for SBS Transit told The Straits Times that the loss of the buses will have 'some impact' on day-to-day operations, but that it would try to minimise inconvenience to its commuters by redeploying buses where possible.
Read the full story in Monday's edition of The Straits Times.
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Maybe 25 made BN responsibility and 39 return to AM control?
Originally posted by iveco:Maybe 25 made BN responsibility and 39 return to AM control?
This incident has nothing to do with 39 and BN did not send any resource to help in 25 operations. The most BN did was transferring 2 VOs to amdep.
Please read carefully before jumping to conclusion and mislead people.