Originally posted by ^tamago^:if you think 13-14 mins headway for full trips is not enough to cope, you are going against your proposal to reinstate 502A and have even fewer trips than before now.
if you feel express services deserve an extra bus during evening peak out of goodwill, and then a basic service failed QoS because there are no more buses, nobody is going to pity the bus company. so it is silly to do that. a failed basic service has greater consequences.
back to your observation, i was at MBS this evening and even though buses were reasonably packed (c'mon it's peak hour), everyone managed to board. but then we come back to expectations - if basic services are just as reasonably packed (and not exceeding 95 percent), what do express services deserve anything extra? it is only an express routing, there's no guaranteed seats which are classified under premium.
If u see, MBS is the additional stop for svc 502. There should be more buses deployed.
3 svc 502 arrived at SLBP just now at 9.05pm.
Originally posted by ^tamago^:you can't bear to leave a place where you can praise SLBP for all to see.
having the best district award for 2009? why not?
Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
having the best district award for 2009...
ONLY?
Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
having the best district award for 2009? why not?
check your facts....
Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
If u see, MBS is the additional stop for svc 502. There should be more buses deployed.
3 svc 502 arrived at SLBP just now at 9.05pm.
if you see, it is skipping orchard boulevard. and the total running time is not an addition to the former one.
3 buses? buses from other services passing through the MBS or town area did not bunch? road conditions are controllable? not forgetting extra buses on sv502 on friday nights, there's a bus leaving delfi orchard as close as every 10mins 9mins 6mins after 5pm until end of ops. go check the e-timetable, and know who to thank for.
Originally posted by ^tamago^:if you see, it is skipping orchard boulevard. and the total running time is not an addition to the former one.
3 buses? buses from other services passing through the MBS or town area did not bunch? road conditions are controllable? not forgetting extra buses on sv502 on friday nights, there's a bus leaving delfi orchard as close as every 10mins 9mins 6mins after 5pm until end of ops. go check the e-timetable, and know who to thank for.
I wonder who...
Originally posted by ^tamago^:check your facts....
check my facts? I will like to see ur facts instead.
Originally posted by ^tamago^:if you see, it is skipping orchard boulevard. and the total running time is not an addition to the former one.
3 buses? buses from other services passing through the MBS or town area did not bunch? road conditions are controllable? not forgetting extra buses on sv502 on friday nights, there's a bus leaving delfi orchard as close as every 10mins 9mins 6mins after 5pm until end of ops. go check the e-timetable, and know who to thank for.
Ok, but shouldn't a DD will be better? Can save 1 driver? 3 buses but hope that they dun arrive at MBS together too.
Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
check my facts? I will like to see ur facts instead.
you can't even differentiate between a district and a depot.
Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
Ok, but shouldn't a DD will be better? Can save 1 driver? 3 buses but hope that they dun arrive at MBS together too.
there are 2 DD's running full day. how many more do you wish?
save 1 bus and return to 20-min headways? no no, next you'll want better frequency.
whether they arrive together at MBS or not, it's up to traffic conditions. remember, it wasn't scheduled to bunch, if not it defeats the purpose of scheduling.
Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
having the best district award for 2009? why not?
yes and im quite sure BBDEP/ARBP and HGDEP did all the work.
Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
having the best district award for 2009? why not?
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Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
having the best district award for 2009? why not?
Please don't disgrace your fellow residents in Jurong West. Thank you.
just came home frm MBS.
106 last bus to bt batok fully seated.
every 133 Scania was full! wonder if the pax alight at esplanade or capitol to switch to MRT. if not those at Bugis, ![]()
Originally posted by ^tamago^:you can't even differentiate between a district and a depot.
SLBP, HGDEP and BBDEP in West district. Dun need to teach abt that.
Originally posted by ^tamago^:there are 2 DD's running full day. how many more do you wish?
save 1 bus and return to 20-min headways? no no, next you'll want better frequency.
whether they arrive together at MBS or not, it's up to traffic conditions. remember, it wasn't scheduled to bunch, if not it defeats the purpose of scheduling.
More DD when loads starts to increase esp in the peak hrs. I believe sooner or later they got no choice but to do it.
Maybe DD and stretch to 13 mins freq? At least it can handle more pax and provide more seats.
Originally posted by cuckood1960:Please don't disgrace your fellow residents in Jurong West. Thank you.
No link..
Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
3 svc 502 arrived at SLBP just now at 9.05pm.
1st bus late by 26mins. 2nd bus late by 15mins. 3rd bus late by 4mins.
502 buses were coming back by 2s & 3s in the evening & all of them were late.
And its not because of the load but because of the jam along Orchard Rd. Deploying more buses will not help much as they will all be stuck in the jam.
Originally posted by samtlk:
1st bus late by 26mins. 2nd bus late by 15mins. 3rd bus late by 4mins.502 buses were coming back by 2s & 3s in the evening & all of them were late.
And its not because of the load but because of the jam along Orchard Rd. Deploying more buses will not help much as they will all be stuck in the jam.
wat abt downroute? I really think they need time to adjust. Will continue to monitor the situation..
Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
wat abt downroute? I really think they need time to adjust. Will continue to monitor the situation..
downroute for Friday is only covered by the 4 5N crossovers. The rest of the downroutes only start after 11pm.
If u wan to noe the situation, try taking the 6pm bus from SLBP to MBS on any of the weekdays.
Originally posted by chickenlittle2:More DD when loads starts to increase esp in the peak hrs. I believe sooner or later they got no choice but to do it.
Maybe DD and stretch to 13 mins freq? At least it can handle more pax and provide more seats.
I'd prefer standing at the bus stop for a shorter period than get a seat - then again, that's just me and not everyone ![]()
Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
wat abt downroute? I really think they need time to adjust. Will continue to monitor the situation..
There are 11 downroutes from the Delfi @ Orchard from 7.50pm in the evening till the end of operations, and that is not enough?
The round trip buses even bunched with downroute buses. At around 9pm I think there were 4 buses within close range of each other near Marina Bay, 9014C 9016Y 5150T and 3914U (in order).
And I think you need to appreciate the fact that SLBP despatched all 4 5N crossovers proper yesterday, if not frequencies would be worse. I think if you had to take 518 from town at 6pm/7pm you'd be cursing and swearing. The scheduled headway was about 1 hour and they reduced it to 40 + 40 after pulling 1 bus forward by 20 mins. Reason? BN didn't despatch proper the first 3 4N crossovers and only inserted them as downroutes somewere near Marina Bay. So all those in Orchard areas all suffer.
Originally posted by samtlk:
1st bus late by 26mins. 2nd bus late by 15mins. 3rd bus late by 4mins.502 buses were coming back by 2s & 3s in the evening & all of them were late.
And its not because of the load but because of the jam along Orchard Rd. Deploying more buses will not help much as they will all be stuck in the jam.
1st 2 buses 'fang pai' after that?
Originally posted by chickenlittle2:
SLBP, HGDEP and BBDEP in West district. Dun need to teach abt that.
Really? Then I'm out of the thread as far as you are concerned. I'll not "teach" you anything.........
Originally posted by TIB657M:
1st 2 buses 'fang pai' after that?
if i'm not wrong, one of the three is a split shift bus ending his shift.