Originally posted by joeyfjj:How did you get the price? :)
once again, onemotoring.com.sg
Originally posted by Bus Stopping:once again, onemotoring.com.sg
Everything comes from there! :D
$300k plus for citaro? A DD bus is cheaper. It around that price also. Why don't SMRT get japanese buses like TIBS use to buy them? So far no burn down of any of the japanese buses from TIBS right?
Originally posted by wsy1234:$300k plus for citaro? A DD bus is cheaper. It around that price also. Why don't SMRT get japanese buses like TIBS use to buy them? So far no burn down of any of the japanese buses from TIBS right?
I wouldnt really agree, based on press release from sbstransit available here:
http://www.sbstransit.com.sg/press/2009-08-13-02-S.aspx
It costs 87 million for 150 wrights b9tl. Do some maths and that's at least $500k per bus.
Originally posted by wsy1234:$300k plus for citaro? A DD bus is cheaper. It around that price also. Why don't SMRT get japanese buses like TIBS use to buy them? So far no burn down of any of the japanese buses from TIBS right?
Agreed. SMRT should get Japanese buses instead. Like the Hino Blue Ribbon, seems to have hybrid version too. Also Isuzu, Mitsubishi and Nissan.
They buy Japanese buses can distinct themselves from SBST. Look at the UDs, last till now.
Originally posted by Bus Stopping:once again, onemotoring.com.sg
wat did you click 2 find the cost...i cant find any options....
Originally posted by Bus Stopping:.
Originally posted by k230ubmoderator:wat did you click 2 find the cost...i cant find any options....
best not to disclose...or else LTA tot their e-function are very popular... just see the various option in onemotoring...
Originally posted by wsy1234:$300k plus for citaro? A DD bus is cheaper. It around that price also. Why don't SMRT get japanese buses like TIBS use to buy them? So far no burn down of any of the japanese buses from TIBS right?
No! I prefer Mercedes-Benz buses for SMRT!
Originally posted by SBS 1000U:
Agreed. SMRT should get Japanese buses instead. Like the Hino Blue Ribbon, seems to have hybrid version too. Also Isuzu, Mitsubishi and Nissan.They buy Japanese buses can distinct themselves from SBST. Look at the UDs, last till now.
When were the U31SCNs and the U31RCN introduced and de-registered?
Japan is slow to introduce euro 4 compliant city bus as they have always favoured more green technology. However they do have euro 4 engines for small buses like Mitsubishi Rosa and Toyota Coaster. Maybe SBST or SMRT should bring in Japanese hybrid buses for trials. Just a suggestion.
Originally posted by dan474:No Japanese bus engine met the Euro IV requiment by LTA.
I am quite surprised by you jumping to a conclusion that no japanese bus engines meets Euro 4 requirements. Making statements with nothing to back yourself up is just being irresponsible.
http://www.lta.gov.sg/corp_info/doc/M08-CVS%20Regn%20by%20make.pdf
Facts and figures from LTA shows the vehicles registered on an annual and monthly basis, so what are the isuzu buses doing there based on your claims?
Japanese truck engines have long been complient to euro 4 standards too.
Originally posted by Bus Stopping:I am quite surprised by you jumping to a conclusion that no japanese bus engines meets Euro 4 requirements. Making statements with nothing to back yourself up is just being irresponsible.
http://www.lta.gov.sg/corp_info/doc/M08-CVS%20Regn%20by%20make.pdf
Facts and figures from LTA shows the vehicles registered on an annual and monthly basis, so what are the isuzu buses doing there based on your claims?
Japanese truck engines have long been complient to euro 4 standards too.
Goign off-topic: that Zhong Tong bus registered in Jan 2011 looks like 137A... :P
Originally posted by joeyfjj:Goign off-topic: that Zhong Tong bus registered in Jan 2011 looks like 137A... :P
Haha, it is. This includes public buses too so if u look at previous years records, scania always have the most buses introduced. I suppose the 9 zhongtongs in april are bought by tong tar.
Originally posted by lemon1974:best not to disclose...or else LTA tot their e-function are very popular... just see the various option in onemotoring...
dun really get ur meaning.....
Originally posted by Bus Stopping:I am quite surprised by you jumping to a conclusion that no japanese bus engines meets Euro 4 requirements. Making statements with nothing to back yourself up is just being irresponsible.
http://www.lta.gov.sg/corp_info/doc/M08-CVS%20Regn%20by%20make.pdf
Facts and figures from LTA shows the vehicles registered on an annual and monthly basis, so what are the isuzu buses doing there based on your claims?
Japanese truck engines have long been complient to euro 4 standards too.
Japanese citybus engine? If wrong, sorry. I had a misunderstanding.
Originally posted by SBS 1000U:
Agreed. SMRT should get Japanese buses instead. Like the Hino Blue Ribbon, seems to have hybrid version too. Also Isuzu, Mitsubishi and Nissan.They buy Japanese buses can distinct themselves from SBST. Look at the UDs, last till now.
the old nissan UD buses were really the best. though they don't have air-suspensions like today's buses, but their ride is amazingly much better with those normal leaf springs and shocks setup. Nissan Diesel buses, though old, they still never fail to impress me even till today when I'm lucky to have a chance to sit in one.
Originally posted by Lee Teuk:the old nissan UD buses were really the best. though they don't have air-suspensions like today's buses, but their ride is amazingly much better with those normal leaf springs and shocks setup. Nissan Diesel buses, though old, they still never fail to impress me even till today when I'm lucky to have a chance to sit in one.
Now all the new Japanese buses don't use leaf springs anymore. They use air suspensions.
And who says Japanese buses does not meet EURO 4 standards??? They even have Hybrid buses and CNG buses.
http://www.hino.co.jp/blueribbon_city_hy/index.html
http://www.isuzu.co.jp/product/bus/erga_cng/index.html
http://www.mitsubishi-fuso.com/jp/lineup/bus/aero_star/10/index.html
SMRT should get Japanese buses to replace their fleet in future.
Like the Volvo singledecks with ZF, sounds really really cool.
Guys, SG$315,000 is an extremely fair price to pay for a fully-imported, full-featured integral bus. Australians pay about 30% more than that for locally-built rubbish.
Originally posted by joeyfjj:Goign off-topic: that Zhong Tong bus registered in Jan 2011 looks like 137A... :P
It is SMB137A.
Originally posted by Powered_By_CNG:Guys, SG$315,000 is an extremely fair price to pay for a fully-imported, full-featured integral bus. Australians pay about 30% more than that for locally-built rubbish.
What is the "locally-built rubbish" you are talking about?
Originally posted by Gus.chong:
What is the "locally-built rubbish" you are talking about?
Imported chassis with bodies built by local bodybuilders (i.e. non-integrals).
Originally posted by Powered_By_CNG:Imported chassis with bodies built by local bodybuilders (i.e. non-integrals).
Thanks.