Bus Spotting Trip 18/04
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Originally posted by SBS9818A:
HAHAHA! Well, i'm apparently the "expert" aren't I?
Give it 2-3 weeks? I gave SBS 9800A [b]NINE months and it broke down on me. Sometimes I really do have to agree with Windy re the VSOs.[/b]
At least my predictions were right 
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If they install a toilet inside, I think the velocity of my urine is faster than the velocity of the d@$% B10TL. Well, your predictions are rather accurate! How about predicting the fact of the B10M MK III buses which I hate so much?
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Originally posted by TIB1186Z:
hahaa, funny you should say the above, and then complain about 9840 later
Sorry, Darryl, Hao Rui and others. I was unable to meet up with u cos I was holed up in my friend's house in Bt Timah till about 1330. However, what I am going to say is going to disappoint Windy_hates_B10TLs, perhaps.
Arrived at Bedok Int at 1430, waited a while and saw SBS 9842 entering interchange on 168. I was delighted, and shortly after, saw a B10M Mk 4 Alexander and a B10M Mk 4 DM entering interchange tgt with 168 destos, and 9842 suddenly left interchange, then SBS 391 came to the berth to pick up passengers,and that driver gave me kinda funny stare b4 driving off, musta be thinkin that I am mad to miss a bus with lousy fequency.
After that, SBS 9846 came into interchange, and gone after dropping off pax, and I thought they were going off service, and that explains the the 2 B10M, maybe to replace them. Wait 15 mins, then that Volvo B10M DM came. I was too angry at SBST to notice that license plate,
To my delight, SBS 9842 came back into the interchange 10 minutes later, and I boarded it. Must say that the power of the engine is damn good.... Driver was good enough to beat 3 successive red lights btw Bedok and Tampines jus as they are turning red... the turn is executed so smoothly, and it was a good experience for me sitting at the top deck in the front. Never felt a bus with so much power throughout, even the Scanias and Dennis LAnce [b]245s could not do it.. acceleration is damn good. However, the real test still lies in the express sector..
I was plaeasantly
pleased at the performance of the VSOs.. too bad there were not any TIBS buses there to compare with, or they will probably travel at the same speed, from experience, and the top deck was so quiet compared to the MBs and some of the Volvo B10Ms.
After the Lentor flyover, it starts to rain heavily, and the Air Con jus feels great, not too cold and not too stuffy, and I personally feel that the best way to experience the VSOs is to take it on an expressway during a thunderstorm.... it jus whizs by another Volvo B10M Dm on 161, plus the view is fabulous, especially the flooded orchid nurseries.
Overall, it is the best trip I had taken on a VSO, at leat my butt is not that pain after 1hr. The VSOs look better at the partially sheltered WR interchange, with lights all on and wet from the rain.. simply wonderful, and I'm not exaggerating. Perhaps darryl's luck was abit down when he took those VSOs.
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I guess you have some good units, and some absolute dogs. Every bus is different, and every driver drives differently.
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B10M Mk III's....They are a good bus, given the have the proper engine (a DH10A, and not a THD102KF), and the right gearbox (a ZF 5HP 500), and governed at a higher speed (say, 80-100km/h)Originally posted by SBS9818A:If they install a toilet inside, I think the velocity of my urine is faster than the velocity of the d@$% B10TL. Well, your predictions are rather accurate! How about predicting the fact of the B10M MK III buses which I hate so much?
But in Singapore...........ugh. many loose fanbelts (hence the squawk and screech from the engines at high rpm), much knocking around from the engine (a sign that the moving parts aren't properly lubricated....maintenance issue), and a shocking gearbox. What can i say? Insipid insipid insipid insipid!!!
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What I could say is SBS 9840J is a disapppointment. I can understand that it's still a new bus, however SBST made it worst! Newer buses act like a problematic old Little Morris. The Voith gearbox is making it ok, but a ZF gearbox might have made it to run much more better!
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It reached S'goon Ave 2 at 1700 sharp and got running at 1705 at full speed towards AMK.Originally posted by SBS9816E:Adui! See lah?! SBS 9840 J is quite a bad bus! Yesterday, the doors couldn't close. And now, the engine almost died off! I think it's a black horse among the newer VSO batch. Or maybe, this bus is a jinx...!? I don't know. I hope that SBST does something about this bus. Or, (it might not be possible) change another VSO to serve Svc 133! Btw, when did it reach S'goon Ave 2? -
Originally posted by SBS9818A:
OK, so it takes SBST at least until next Monday before they hear about the complain, so sorry. I apologize for my exceedingly horrible English, hope my GP tutor does not know about this page ( She never will ) Yes, the 0405 is SBS 322. The VSO driver was a middle-aged male Indian driver wearing sunglasses.
We sent our feedback by mail, Hoe Jyh! SBS 9840J really needs to have some checks done. First, the interlock system screwed up, then the engine dies. Was the driver an old man wearing glasses? And was the O405 SBS 322?
FYI, there's no such word as "quitted".
Tranquilice, SBS 3703L is the [b]FIRST repainted Scania, which got us all excited back in Jan/Feb and it was on Sv. 231 when I took it. Now it has been transferred to BNDEP and serves Sv. 291, which was a shock as we didn't expect to see it at Tampines.[/b] -
Darryl, pls check ur Physics. Your urine must be travelling at only a fraction faster than the velocity of the VSO, regardless of the speed of whatever bus it is be it VSOs, MB, Volvos or Dennises.Originally posted by SBS9818A:If they install a toilet inside, I think the velocity of my urine is faster than the velocity of the d@$% B10TL. Well, your predictions are rather accurate! How about predicting the fact of the B10M MK III buses which I hate so much?
Don't believe right?
Consider u are travelling inside the snail of a VSO. Then u are also travelling at the snail speed. U go into the toilet and start to produce urine, and the forward velocity, or Ux, is the snail speed plus a little little more for it to travel such a low Sx, or distance to the hole. Due to Air resisitance, which surprisingly, can constitute quite abit of %error, the time taken to travel is quite high. Hence , by the equation Sx=Ux t, Ux becomes even smaller. Take the fact that the Sx is about 0.4m, and it takes about 1s to reach the hole, thus ur Ux is 0.4m/s, and urine is projected out at 15degrees to the horizontal. Calculating, this gives ur urine to be travelling at abt. 1.49km/h, and compared to the speed of any vehicle, even a person walking, is nuts!
So stop talking in terms of urine vs VSO, how much u hate them, but I'm jus clearing the air here abt this mathematically and scientifically. Don't worry if u can't understand it...jus in short, comparing the speed of urine vs VSO isn't really very significant at all. -
Originally posted by TIB1186Z:
Trying to show off is it? Please DON'T mention about projectile motion! Wa kao! Must start revising my work.
Darryl, pls check ur Physics. Your urine [b]must be travelling at only a fraction faster than the velocity of the VSO, regardless of the speed of whatever bus it is be it VSOs, MB, Volvos or Dennises.
Don't believe right?
Consider u are travelling inside the snail of a VSO. Then u are also travelling at the snail speed. U go into the toilet and start to produce urine, and the forward velocity, or Ux, is the snail speed plus a little little more for it to travel such a low Sx, or distance to the hole. Due to Air resisitance, which surprisingly, can constitute quite abit of %error, the time taken to travel is quite high. Hence , by the equation Sx=Ux t, Ux becomes even smaller. Take the fact that the Sx is about 0.4m, and it takes about 1s to reach the hole, thus ur Ux is 0.4m/s, and urine is projected out at 15degrees to the horizontal. Calculating, this gives ur urine to be travelling at abt. 1.49km/h, and compared to the speed of any vehicle, even a person walking, is nuts!
So stop talking in terms of urine vs VSO, how much u hate them, but I'm jus clearing the air here abt this mathematically and scientifically. Not sastified? Ask Hao Rui.[/b] -
Originally posted by TIB1186Z:
Is this SUPER PURE PHYSICS? I don't seem to understand it AT ALL! This must be A Level Physics.
Darryl, pls check ur Physics. Your urine [b]must be travelling at only a fraction faster than the velocity of the VSO, regardless of the speed of whatever bus it is be it VSOs, MB, Volvos or Dennises.
Don't believe right?
Consider u are travelling inside the snail of a VSO. Then u are also travelling at the snail speed. U go into the toilet and start to produce urine, and the forward velocity, or Ux, is the snail speed plus a little little more for it to travel such a low Sx, or distance to the hole. Due to Air resisitance, which surprisingly, can constitute quite abit of %error, the time taken to travel is quite high. Hence , by the equation Sx=Ux t, Ux becomes even smaller. Take the fact that the Sx is about 0.4m, and it takes about 1s to reach the hole, thus ur Ux is 0.4m/s, and urine is projected out at 15degrees to the horizontal. Calculating, this gives ur urine to be travelling at abt. 1.49km/h, and compared to the speed of any vehicle, even a person walking, is nuts!
So stop talking in terms of urine vs VSO, how much u hate them, but I'm jus clearing the air here abt this mathematically and scientifically. Not sastified? Ask Hao Rui.[/b]
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Yawn ~~ What is new ?Originally posted by Windy_hates_B10TLs:HAHAHA! Well, i'm apparently the "expert" aren't I? At least my predictions were right
Tell me which buses doesnt give problems ?
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Originally posted by TIB1186Z:
OK OK, your Physics "qiang"!
Darryl, pls check ur Physics. Your urine [b]must be travelling at only a fraction faster than the velocity of the VSO, regardless of the speed of whatever bus it is be it VSOs, MB, Volvos or Dennises.
Don't believe right?
Consider u are travelling inside the snail of a VSO. Then u are also travelling at the snail speed. U go into the toilet and start to produce urine, and the forward velocity, or Ux, is the snail speed plus a little little more for it to travel such a low Sx, or distance to the hole. Due to Air resisitance, which surprisingly, can constitute quite abit of %error, the time taken to travel is quite high. Hence , by the equation Sx=Ux t, Ux becomes even smaller. Take the fact that the Sx is about 0.4m, and it takes about 1s to reach the hole, thus ur Ux is 0.4m/s, and urine is projected out at 15degrees to the horizontal. Calculating, this gives ur urine to be travelling at abt. 1.49km/h, and compared to the speed of any vehicle, even a person walking, is nuts!
So stop talking in terms of urine vs VSO, how much u hate them, but I'm jus clearing the air here abt this mathematically and scientifically. Don't worry if u can't understand it...jus in short, comparing the speed of urine vs VSO isn't really very significant at all.[/b]