Past bus routes and deployment (Part 2)
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Originally posted by Gus.chong:
May I ask, when is 194 (Boon Lay - Jurong Bird Park) converted to PAC?
It was FAC all along if I'm not wrong. -
To answer this question over Sv merger and cancellation
There was 2 main reason for rt merger and cancellation, in fact 3 even..
1) CBD Rts: They wanted to reduce the no of buses inside the CBD and even the roadside terminals aft the MRT commenced.
This clause saw Svs like 20 removed, M2 was introduced w/ the MRT > feeder concept.
2) Buses became bigger: Bigger buses meant more capacity, I guess some Svs were removed. Some examples was CSS 6 that duplicated with 65.
3) MRT: Some long distance routes were simply shortened as there's no point in creating long dist rts... Sv 2 was shortened to just ply CBD - Changi Village instead of plying all the way to Buona Vista.
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Originally posted by sbst275:
It was FAC all along if I'm not wrong.There is someone who can prove that 194 used NAC DM MK2s in 2006.
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Originally posted by C151 039/040:
Just to add on:
SBS1000U Mercedes-Benz LP1113 were introduced in 1965 and were de-registered in 23 July 1979.
SBS1001S – SBS1010R Albion Viking VK41L were introduced in 1967 and were de-registered in 1979 – 1980.
SBS1011M – SBS1012K Albion Viking EVK41L were introduced in 1968 and were de-registered in 1979 – 1980.
SBS1013H – SBS1014E Mercedes-Benz LP1113 were introduced in 1968 – 1969 and were de-registered in 1979 – 1980.
SBS1015C Albion Viking EVK41L were introduced in 1968 – 1969 and were de-registered in 1980.
SBS1016A – SBS1018U Albion Viking VK41L were introduced in 1968 – 1969 and were de-registered in 1980.
SBS1019S – SBS1027T Albion Viking EVK41L were introduced in 1968 – 1969 and were de-registered in 1980.
SBS1028R Mercedes-Benz LP1113 were introduced in 1969 and were de-registered in 1980.
SBS1029M – SBS1051Y Albion Viking VK41L were introduced in 1969 and were de-registered in 1981.
SBS1052U – SBS1061T Albion Viking EVK41L were introduced in 1969 – 1970 and were de-registered in 1981.
SBS1062R Leyland Comet 13C/6RP (British-built) were introduced in 1969 – 1970 and were de-registered in 1981 – 1982.
SBS1064K Mercedes-Benz OF1413 were introduced in 1970 and were de-registered in 1982.
SBS1066E – SBS1068A Mercedes-Benz OF1413 were introduced in 1970 and were de-registered in 1982.
SBS1069Y – SBS1072L Albion Viking EVK41L were introduced in 1970 and were de-registered in 1982.
SBS1077Z – SBS1089P Mercedes-Benz OF1413 were introduced in 1970 and were de-registered in 1982.
SBS1091G Albion Viking EVK41UL were introduced in 1970 – 1971 and were de-registered in 1982.
SBS1092D – SBS1096Y Austin 1100F were introduced in 1970 – 1971 and were de-registered in 1982.
SBS1098M – SBS1105B Austin 1100F were introduced in 1971 and were de-registered in 1983.
SBS1108T – SBS1112E Mercedes-Benz LP1113 were introduced in 1971 and were de-registered in 1983.
SBS1116U Ashok-Leyland Comet ALCOP 3/1 were introduced in 1971 and were de-registered in 1983.
SBS1119L was Albion Viking EVK41L were introduced in 1971 and were de-registered in 1983.
SBS1121D – SBS1124X Albion Viking EVK41L were introduced in 1971 – 1972 and were de-registered in 1983.
SBS1125T – SBS1130C Austin 1100F were introduced in 1971 – 1972 and were de-registered in 1983 – 1984.
SBS1137J – SBS1155G Albion Viking EVK41UL were introduced in 1971 – 1972 and were de-registered in 1983 – 1984.
SBS1156D – SBS1183A Albion Viking EVK41L were introduced in 1972 and were de-registered in 1984.
SBS1184Y was Ashok-Leyland Comet ALCOP 3/1 were introduced in 1972 and were de-registered in 1984.
SBS1185U – SBS1191B were Albion Viking EVK41L were introduced in 1972 and were de-registered in 1984.
SBS1192Z – SBS1231U Albion Viking EVK41UL were introduced in 1972 – 1973 and were de-registered in 1984 – 1986.
SBS1341K, SBS1342H Albion Viking EVK41L were introduced in 1974 and were de-registered in 1988.
SBS1350J Albion Viking EVK41L was inrtoduced in 1974 and were de-registered in 1988.
SBS1354Z – SBS1365S Albion Viking EVK41UL were introduced in 1974 and were de-registered in 1988.
SBS1366P – SBS1382S Mercedes-Benz OF1413 were introduced in 1974 and were de-registered in 1988.
SBS1383P – SBS1412P, SBS1417B – SBS1426A Albion EVK55CUL (Soon Chow) that were introduced in 1974 and were de-registered in 1988 – 1989.
SBS1413L – SBS1416D, SBS1427Y, SBS1428U were Albion EVK41AL (Soon Chow body) that were introduced in 1974 – 1975 and were de-registered in 1989.
SBS1429S – SBS1433D Albion EVK55CUL (Soon Chow) were introduced in 1975 and were de-registered in 1989.
SBS1434B – SBS1502M were Albion EVK55CL (Soon Chow body) were introduced in 1975 and were de-registered in 1989.
SBS1503K – SBS1516Z were Mercedes-Benz OF1413 were introduced in 1975 – 1976 and were de-registered in 1989 – 1990.
SBS1517X was Isuzu BDTIZCHSS were introduced in 1976 and were de-registered in 1990 – 1991, replaced by Mercedes-Benz O405.
SBS1518T – SBS1616T were Mercedes-Benz OF1417 (NZ Hawke body) were introduced in 1976 and were de-registered in 1990 – 1991, replaced by Mercedes-Benz O405.
SBS1617R was Mercedes-Benz OF1417 (Supreme Star body) were introduced in 1976 and were de-registered in 1990 – 1991, replaced by Mercedes-Benz O405 (service 190).
Originally posted by C151 039/040:SBS1232S, SBS1233P Mercedes-Benz OF1413 were introduced in 1973 and were de-registered in 1986.
SBS1235J – SBS1249U Mercedes-Benz OF1413 were introduced in 1973 and were de-registered in 1986.
SBS1250P – SBS1265Y Mercedes-Benz LP1113 were introduced in 1973 and were de-registered in 1986.
SBS1266U – SBS1285P Mercedes-Benz OF1413 were introduced in 1973 and were de-registered in 1986.
SBS1286L, SBS1287J Mercedes-Benz LP1113 were introduced in 1973 and were de-registered in 1986.
SBS1297E Ashok-Leyland Comet ALCOP 3/1 were introduced in 1973 and were de-registered in 1986.
SBS1300D, SBS1302Z, SBS1303X Austin 1100F were introduced in 1973 – 1974 and were de-registered in 1986 – 1987.
SBS1322R, SBS1324K Albion Viking EVK41L were introduced in 1974 and were de-registered in 1988.
SBS1327C, SBS1336B – SBS1338X, SBS1340M – Ashok-Leyland Comet ALCOP 3/1 were introduced in 1974 and were de-registered in 1988 – 1989.
Nostalagia...
But I thought the Isuzu demo only last for 1 year trial???
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Originally posted by SBS 1000U:
Nostalagia... But I thought the Isuzu demo only last for 1 year trial???
Yes, it was used as a 1-year trial. His information were all false, like the years of introduction and de-registration, and also the models.
In one of your posts you replied me, it says that SBS1518T-SBS1616T is the same model (Mercedes-Benz OF1417) but with two bodyworks overall. Only SBS1519R-SBS1524A were bodied by Soon Chow, the rest are all Hawke bodied.
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From what I feel, 323 should have been withdrawn when 151 was re-introduced as a Hougang South-Kent Ridge service. The original route of 151 went via Defu Ave 1 (HGDEP).
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Originally posted by sbst275:
To answer this question over Sv merger and cancellation
There was 2 main reason for rt merger and cancellation, in fact 3 even..
1) CBD Rts: They wanted to reduce the no of buses inside the CBD and even the roadside terminals aft the MRT commenced.
This clause saw Svs like 20 removed, M2 was introduced w/ the MRT > feeder concept.
2) Buses became bigger: Bigger buses meant more capacity, I guess some Svs were removed. Some examples was CSS 6 that duplicated with 65.
3) MRT: Some long distance routes were simply shortened as there's no point in creating long dist rts... Sv 2 was shortened to just ply CBD - Changi Village instead of plying all the way to Buona Vista.
CSS 4 was withdrawn and there were no buses that connected Nicoll Hwy with Chinatown. Even after the commencement of Suntec City's operations nobody thought of it.
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Post reposted on page 22.
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Originally posted by Gus.chong:
When is the current 194 converted to PAC before it was reverted back to FAC?
I remember taking svc 32 that is supposed to be FAC service (somewhere ard 2003-2005) but a NAC bus arrived instead. Not enough bus I think.
Similarly, something like dat happened to 194, maybe?
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Originally posted by starscream_07:
I remember taking svc 32 that is supposed to be FAC service (somewhere ard 2003-2005) but a NAC bus arrived instead. Not enough bus I think.
Similarly, something like dat happened to 194, maybe?
There were two buses perming 194 according to someone in 2006: an OAC DM O405 and a NAC DM MK2. Isn't it the same like that?
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Originally posted by Gus.chong:
There were two buses perming 194 according to someone in 2006: an OAC DM O405 and a NAC DM MK2. Isn't it the same like that?
Shud b.. I myself was surprised to see the NAC 32. Did encounter another FAC service but having NAC, but can't rmbr wat number. -
What buses does TIBS 160 have under WLDEP since its opening in Oct 1998 until it was re-numbered TIBS 980?
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When did Volvo B9TLs moved out of 161 permers?
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When 106 was in TIBS AMDEP round 1 the first time in 2000, How many splits and full day did it have?
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Originally posted by Gus.chong:
What buses does TIBS 160 have under WLDEP since its opening in Oct 1998 until it was re-numbered TIBS 980?
Some of the perms I recalled perming TIBS 160 under WLDEP were 5xx series L113CRLs. Regos are TIB562C, TIB564Y & TIB565U.
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Originally posted by sbst275:
To answer this question over Sv merger and cancellation
There was 2 main reason for rt merger and cancellation, in fact 3 even..
1) CBD Rts: They wanted to reduce the no of buses inside the CBD and even the roadside terminals aft the MRT commenced.
This clause saw Svs like 20 removed, M2 was introduced w/ the MRT > feeder concept.
2) Buses became bigger: Bigger buses meant more capacity, I guess some Svs were removed. Some examples was CSS 6 that duplicated with 65.
3) MRT: Some long distance routes were simply shortened as there's no point in creating long dist rts... Sv 2 was shortened to just ply CBD - Changi Village instead of plying all the way to Buona Vista.
What about the merger of 176 & 184? Any reason for that?
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Originally posted by iveco:
What about the merger of 176 & 184? Any reason for that?
mmm... I believe 184's demand wasn't high to Jurong Int and just nice Jurong East & Bt Batok New Town sprang up? -
Originally posted by SBS7440T:
When did Volvo B9TLs moved out of 161 permers?
Somewhere in January 2008. That was the time I no longer see B9TLs on 161 except cameos.
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Post replaced. Come back again sometimes.
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Originally posted by Gus.chong:
Some questions of deployments:
1. What buses does 84 use before merging with service 864 in 1999?
2. Does 964 have bendies when it was introduced in 1997?
3. Does 301 or 303 use DDs before merging with 307 in 1997?
4. Does 856 have bendies since the box bendies were introduced in 1997/1998?
1. Volvo B10M MK II -
Originally posted by starscream_07:
1. Volvo B10M MK IIOnly Volvo B10M Mark IIs?
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Some questions of deployments and past history: (Second time, like Volvo Olympian 2-axles) QR-Code on today's news is meant to snap in Mega 13-15. 1. What buses did bus route 450 use from 1978 to 1990? 2. When did route 10 removed Leyland Atlantean (Alexander R)? 3. What are the bus regos for Leyland Atlantean - Service 169 and 178 deployments? 4. Sentosa i think got AEC Regent IV if i am not wrong. Guess is before 1991. 5. Why did Sentosa Leyland Olympians were deployed on Green Route and not on the Red Route? 6. Why did Sentosa never buy Ayats Bravo City in 2005? 7. When does 173 withdrew part from Clementi to New Bridge Road? 8. Did route 28 use LA in the past, and did route 30 use LA in the past? 9. I thought Upper Thomson Road/Mandai Road is enclosed with Tibs boundary. Do you know why? 10. When did route 171 had their origins from. I know 170 got origin from Green Bus Route. 11. Can you tell me the history of buses in 2xxx - 2000 to 2356, 3xxx - 3000 to 3398, 4xxx - 4000 to 4687, 5xxx - 5009 to 5324 and 6xxx - 6000 to 6493 (when did it de-register and introduce service). 12. Can you get histories in SGWiki - 1975 to 1978, 1984, 1987 to 1990, 1995, 1997 to 2002, and beyond 2005. 13. When did Scheme B route 626 started operation and ended operation? 14. Did service 640 use Dennis Trident 2 in 1999? 15. Did service 647 and 656 use East Lancs Lolyne or Plaxton President in 1999? Even though got Volvo Olympians or MCW Metrobus it is still possible?
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Originally posted by Gus.chong:
Only Volvo B10M Mark IIs?
The best I can remember...
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Originally posted by C151 039/040:
Some questions of deployments and past history:
(Second time, like Volvo Olympian 2-axles)
QR-Code on today’s news is meant to snap in Mega 13-15.1. What buses did bus route 450 use from 1978 to 1990?
2. When did route 10 removed Leyland Atlantean (Alexander R)?
3. What are the bus regos for Leyland Atlantean – Service 169 and 178 deployments?
4. Sentosa i think got AEC Regent IV if i am not wrong. Guess is before 1991.
5. Why did Sentosa Leyland Olympians were deployed on Green Route and not on the Red Route?
6. Why did Sentosa never buy Ayats Bravo City in 2005?
7. When does 173 withdrew part from Clementi to New Bridge Road?
8. Did route 28 use LA in the past, and did route 30 use LA in the past?
9. I thought Upper Thomson Road/Mandai Road is enclosed with Tibs boundary. Do you know why?
10. When did route 171 had their origins from. I know 170 got origin from Green Bus Route.
11. Can you tell me the history of buses in 2xxx – 2000 to 2356, 3xxx – 3000 to 3398, 4xxx – 4000 to 4687, 5xxx – 5009 to 5324 and 6xxx – 6000 to 6493 (when did it de-register and introduce service).
12. Can you get histories in SGWiki – 1975 to 1978, 1984, 1987 to 1990, 1995, 1997 to 2002, and beyond 2005.
13. When did Scheme B route 626 started operation and ended operation?
14. Did service 640 use Dennis Trident 2 in 1999?
15. Did service 647 and 656 use East Lancs Lolyne or Plaxton President in 1999? Even though got Volvo Olympians or MCW Metrobus it is still possible?
14 and 15 don't even happen before...
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Qn: Are there any bus amendments, or new service etc that did not make it into any bus guides? For example SS4,SS5,SS6...