Past bus routes and deployment (Part 2)
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Originally posted by Gus.chong:
Some questions on deployments:
2) When were services 382 & 385 converted from NAC to PAC status?
3) What is the fleet of service 72 when it was under dual AMDEP/HGDEP control?
4) When did 964 started to have bendies? What fleet of buses does it use before bendies?
Qn 1 has been answered.
2) 382 is the same as 385 so I dont have to repeat again.
3) Service 72 was under AMDEP, even during the Serangoon-Tg Rhu era.
If you are referring to Serangoon-Tg Rhu era, it uses the MB O405 & MB OF1413/1417s (The MB O405s came in later to replace the MB OF1413/OF1417)
If you are referring to the peak hour service from YCK-AMK Ave 5, it uses the MB O405 & Mk3s. (FAC)
If you are referring to the current routing (YCK - Tampines), then its the MB O405 & Mk3s. [Mk4s DO appear on 72 even during the SBS era]
4) Service 964 gets bendies in 2002. Previously it uses only 1 MB O405. -
Side note of 402:
If you are referring to the temporary service of 1986 (Marine Parade to East Coast Pk) Albion Vikings & OF 1413s are used. -
Originally posted by iveco:
190 fleet was almost 100% B57s and then Mk IIs. The LAs only appeared from 1992 IIRC.
LA as in Type L or Type R bodied or is by DM???Originally posted by SBS8533C:
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400 - MB OF1417s, B57s (primary), CRBs, Leyland Victory, MB O405s, KUB
401 - Albion Viking, Volvo B57s, MB OF1413s, CRBs, MB O405s Mk2, Mk3, Mk4, KUB
402 had variants
402 - Bedok to SAFRA Country Club uses MB O405 (DM)
402 - Bedok to S'pore Expo uses Mk3s.
402 - Marina South Pier to Shenton Way uses MB O405.
403 - Uses Nissan Civilian buses before switching over to B57s, CRBs, Mk2, Mk3, Mk4, KUB
404 - Uses Albion Viking, MB OF1413, LP1113
405 had variants
405 - Jurong Int to Jurong Bird Park uses the MB OF1413, LP1113, OF1113.
405 - Boon Lay to Choa Chu Kang Rd uses the MB O405s all along before Mk4s/KUBs. Air Con Service.
406 - Uses Albion Viking, MB OF1413, LP1113
450 - Uses Albion Viking, MB OF1413, LP1113
It is noticed that Service 450 was handed over to Scheme B operators and PH/PZ buses began to appear on Service 450. This service is still around although AM shuttle buses are available from Boon Lay MRT station.
Service 450 terminates outside the New Pasir Laba Camp Entrance.
Nostalgic...
What was the route for 404??? It starts from the old Jurong Interchange but go where???
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Originally posted by SBS8533C:
For 190:
Volvo Olympian 2-Axles came in 1994.
LO3x came in 1996 while VO3x came in 1997.
O405s came in 1992-93, while Mk3s came in 1994.Oh, thank you.
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Originally posted by SBS8533C:
Qn 1 has been answered.
2) 382 is the same as 385 so I dont have to repeat again.
3) Service 72 was under AMDEP, even during the Serangoon-Tg Rhu era.
If you are referring to Serangoon-Tg Rhu era, it uses the MB O405 & MB OF1413/1417s (The MB O405s came in later to replace the MB OF1413/OF1417)
If you are referring to the peak hour service from YCK-AMK Ave 5, it uses the MB O405 & Mk3s. (FAC)
If you are referring to the current routing (YCK - Tampines), then its the MB O405 & Mk3s. [Mk4s DO appear on 72 even during the SBS era]
4) Service 964 gets bendies in 2002. Previously it uses only 1 MB O405.3) I remembered 72 being dual AMDEP/HGDEP control for some time in 1998 after merging with service 80 to become Yio Chu Kang - Tampines. By the way when did 72 started to have DDs?
4) What are the rest of service 964's fleet? I remembered someone says it used DAFs. I believe it is Hispano DAFs, because I did not find any records in Alexander DAFs' former deployments.
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When and how many times had 184 swapped depot control between KJDEP & WLDEP?
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Originally posted by SBS3057T:
When and how many times had 184 swapped depot control between KJDEP & WLDEP?
1995-2000: Full KJDEP controlled after handover to TIBS
2000-2003: Become full WLDEP controlled
2003-2010: Back to full KJDEP controlled
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Originally posted by SBS8533C:
3) Service 72 was under AMDEP, even during the Serangoon-Tg Rhu era.
If you are referring to Serangoon-Tg Rhu era, it uses the MB O405 & MB OF1413/1417s (The MB O405s came in later to replace the MB OF1413/OF1417)
If you are referring to the peak hour service from YCK-AMK Ave 5, it uses the MB O405 & Mk3s. (FAC)
If you are referring to the current routing (YCK - Tampines), then its the MB O405 & Mk3s. [Mk4s DO appear on 72 even during the SBS era]Service 72 during the short trip peak hour days used only Merc 0405s as it was under full AMDEP then.
Just after the merger with 80 in mid 1998, 72 came under majority HGDEP controlled and that was where MK3s came into the fleet. Also note that AMDEP side also deployed perm MK4 DM3500s as fleet addition (remember 2741H 2742E 2743C were among the perms).
It was only somewhere in 1999 I think, 72 went back under full AMDEP and that was when LO3x began to appear on 72.
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Originally posted by SBS8676Z:
Service 72 during the short trip peak hour days used only Merc 0405s as it was under full AMDEP then.
Just after the merger with 80 in mid 1998, 72 came under majority HGDEP controlled and that was where MK3s came into the fleet. Also note that AMDEP side also deployed perm MK4 DM3500s as fleet addition (remember 2741H 2742E 2743C were among the perms).
It was only somewhere in 1999 I think, 72 went back under full AMDEP and that was when LO3x began to appear on 72.
Thanks for more information (especially when 72 started to have DDs).
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Originally posted by SBS8533C:
For 190:
Volvo Olympian 2-Axles came in 1994.
LO3x came in 1996 while VO3x came in 1997.
O405s came in 1992-93, while Mk3s came in 1994.LO3x came into 190 in Dec 1993.
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Originally posted by SBS8676Z:
LO3x came into 190 in Dec 1993.
Right. SBS9038J-SBS9043T and SBS9048E-SBS9050Y were new to 190 back then.
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Originally posted by Gus.chong:
Some questions on deployments:
1) Does 190 used to have a full SD fleet in the late 1980s?
Yes. It used to have Albion Vikings and Volvo B57s in the beginning days. NAC Volvo MK2 WAs were later brought into 190 as well. During its PAC status, Merc 0405s were used followed by MK3s.
DDs started on 190 somewhere in mid 1993 (LAs were used), after which LO3x also made its 1st appearance in Dec 1993.
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10 started using double deckers since 1984 (when it was extended to Tampines Avenue 5) 61 started using double deckers since 1988 (when it was extended to Bukit Batok) 106 started using double deckers since 1985 (when it was extended to Bukit Batok)
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What are the buses 63 use after it became FAC in 1998?
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Originally posted by SBS3057T:What are the buses 63 use after it became FAC in 1998?
Mostly Volvo B10Ms
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Originally posted by SBS 1000U:
Mostly Volvo B10Ms
The Mark 3 and the Mark 4 from HGDEP until 2004? By the way which buses do they use from 2004 to 2007 in BRBP? -
Originally posted by C151 039/040:
The Mark 3 and the Mark 4 from HGDEP until 2004? By the way which buses do they use from 2004 to 2007 in BRBP?Volvo B10M MK 4s.
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Originally posted by SBS 1000U:
Volvo B10M MK 4s.
I thought they used ex-105 Mercs from AMDEP? -
Originally posted by C151 039/040:
10 started using double deckers since 1984 (when it was extended to Tampines Avenue 5)
61 started using double deckers since 1988 (when it was extended to Bukit Batok)
106 started using double deckers since 1985 (when it was extended to Bukit Batok)
Now 61 only got SD. So sad. -
Originally posted by iveco:
I thought they used ex-105 Mercs from AMDEP?
Not very sure of the deployments of that period but I know there are still B10Ms. -
Originally posted by SBS 1000U:
What was the route for 404??? It starts from the old Jurong Interchange but go where???
404 used to be from Jurong Interchange to Science Ctr Rd (Loop)
Jurong Int, Jurong Port Rd, Jln Ahmad Ibrahim, Jurong Town Hall Rd, (un-named Road), Science Ctr Rd, (un-named Road), Jurong Town Hall Rd, Jln Ahmad Ibrahim, Jurong Port Rd, Jurong Int. -
Service 63 fleet used to be like this after 5th Sep 2004:
MB O405: 161U 168B 221E 246J 261P 307S 317M 331X 3747K 3833U 3842T
MK 4 DM: 882Y 959K 1897Z 1922J 1925B 2610C
1926Z join in later to replace 959K which goes back to HGDEP 27 perm. It was under BRAM 63 for a short while.
959K used to be a HGDEP 63 perm before becoming BRAM 63.
Those in BOLD are used to be from AMDEP 105 perm.
Those in BLUE are used to be from AMDEP 100 perm.