Daimler delivers the largest Asian Citaro order to date

• SBS8675B

  6 Jul 11, 19:07

  Originally posted by lemon1974:

  i think a lot of BCs are trained.. but then the MK3 are still around.. so there are some excess buses... and guess C&C shipped out too fast.. so SBST have no choice but to park them in depots first...

  so it will be 1100KUBs, 300 Citaros + ??? , 450 Wrights, 200 B9, 470 VO3x...

   

  SBST should have just lay up and dereg the MK3s at an earlier date if that's the case, just like what they did to the 0405s when the K230UBs were registered.

• AEW5001

  6 Jul 11, 19:17

  Originally posted by SBS2601D:

  Maybe why HGDEP has been considered to have decent if not good mainteinance all these while might very well be due to its constituent fleet being made up of the B10Ms and VOs, especially the MKIIIs.

  The MKIII has a clean slate to boast of.

  MKIII ain't fast (usually), ain't handsome...but it certainly did its job remarkably well, as a true blue workhorse. The closest I can think of are the SBST 0405s, but for some strange reason, people are willing to overlook this fact and lampoon the MKIIIs and laud the 0405s...which doesnt do the MKIII justice at all. After all, they arrived around the same time, and gave SBS a modern fleet with the N113s and the Superbuses and the other B10Ms. So at the least we should appreciate this fact.

  Oh. And I like the fact that its impossible to remove the seats on the B10Ms, never mind the crappy legroom.

  
  

• Vincent Lee

  6 Jul 11, 19:56

  Yap!just dereg the mk3 and let the citaros out from dep and c&c !
• TIB1051D

  6 Jul 11, 20:20

  Originally posted by SBS2601D:

  Maybe why HGDEP has been considered to have decent if not good mainteinance all these while might very well be due to its constituent fleet being made up of the B10Ms and VOs, especially the MKIIIs.

  The MKIII has a clean slate to boast of.

  MKIII ain't fast (usually), ain't handsome...but it certainly did its job remarkably well, as a true blue workhorse. The closest I can think of are the SBST 0405s, but for some strange reason, people are willing to overlook this fact and lampoon the MKIIIs and laud the 0405s...which doesnt do the MKIII justice at all. After all, they arrived around the same time, and gave SBS a modern fleet with the N113s and the Superbuses and the other B10Ms. So at the least we should appreciate this fact.

  Oh. And I like the fact that its impossible to remove the seats on the B10Ms, never mind the crappy legroom.

  very much agree on this. the MKIIIs are very good workhorses. after about 18 to 19 years in operation, not a single one retired earlier than lifespan expiry. no known fire incidents happened on the MKIIIs as well. they might be slow, but they are just so rugged. sometimes i'd rather a MKIII over an O405...

• Vincent Lee

  6 Jul 11, 20:36

  I thought the citaros are for replacing the mk3 but amdep don,t have any mk3 yet still keep taking in more citaros instead for hgdep / bbdep/bndep !
• SBS9C

  6 Jul 11, 21:15

  Originally posted by TIB1051D:

  very much agree on this. the MKIIIs are very good workhorses. after about 18 to 19 years in operation, not a single one retired earlier than lifespan expiry. no known fire incidents happened on the MKIIIs as well. they might be slow, but they are just so rugged. sometimes i'd rather a MKIII over an O405...

  Agree too. I really hope that MK3 lifespans can be further extended.

• lemon1974

  6 Jul 11, 22:48

  Originally posted by Vincent Lee:

  I thought the citaros are for replacing the mk3 but amdep don,t have any mk3 yet still keep taking in more citaros instead for hgdep / bbdep/bndep !

  it is not as simple as 1 to 1 replacement.. if that is the case, then the KUB should be 1 to 1 replacement for MK2, N113 and O405 right? HGDEP have only 93 MK 2 in 2006. but it took in 132 KUB since 2007... so why HGDEP is taking in more KUBs ? AMDEP took in some citaros because there isnt enough SDs to replace the O405 because of fleet addition issue... SBST have been adding buses and trips over the past few years.. definitely need more buses....

  looking at AMDEP, it have more than 28 N113, 11 MK2, 504 O405 in 2006, total 543 buses to be replace. it took in 517 KUBs.. so technically, it is still shortly of SDs buses.. (it have 44 MK 4 in 2006 as compare to 40 MK4 now)....

  further, there are only 274 MK3 left..more than 20 were retired much early.. SBST order 300 Citaros.... definitely there are some excess for AMDEP/SLBP as well.

• lemon1974

  6 Jul 11, 23:15

  Originally posted by SBS8675B:

   

  SBST should have just lay up and dereg the MK3s at an earlier date if that's the case, just like what they did to the 0405s when the K230UBs were registered.

  they have to laid up/dereg some of the O405 early due to space issue and to meet the WAB quota issue.... when more Citaros arrived in Sin , SBST will definitely laid up some of the MK3 early.... right now, even the Wrights are been parked/idling in depots as well after registered....

• Vincent Lee

  7 Jul 11, 07:41

  In that way AMDEP must well take in all the 300 citaro and transfer the kubs to other deps to replace the mk3 !
• SBS2601D

  7 Jul 11, 09:02

  Can you just be patient....?

• lemon1974

  7 Jul 11, 11:06

  Originally posted by Vincent Lee:

  In that way AMDEP must well take in all the 300 citaro and transfer the kubs to other deps to replace the mk3 !

  yes.. AMDEP should do so... transfer all the KUBs out... just like in the 90s, when HGDEP take in brand new O405 first, then take in brand new MK3/MK4 and transfer all the O405 out to AMDEP/JRBP/SLBP....

  A bus is a bus.. why so concern about what buses they used, as long as the buses can take you to destination safely...

• SBS2601D

  7 Jul 11, 11:40

  Will low-floor buses be able to match the huge fuel tanks of the B10Ms?

• sbst275

  7 Jul 11, 11:41

  Originally posted by SBS2601D:

  Will low-floor buses be able to match the huge fuel tanks of the B10Ms?

  
  e most 160 & 170 dun go WAB lor

  Woodlands Rd for one, bus stop can't go WAB one. The pavement

• Bus&Soccer l0v3r (VO3x 1)

  7 Jul 11, 11:59

  Originally posted by Vincent Lee:

  In that way AMDEP must well take in all the 300 citaro and transfer the kubs to other deps to replace the mk3 !

  dun so selfish lar
  
  give some citaro to us lar
  
  i dun wan see so many KUB flooding my area

• Vincent Lee

  7 Jul 11, 13:19

  NO choice lay ! since amdep like to take in all the new first , anyway not me who decide which bus which deps!
• bus.com

  7 Jul 11, 20:49

  Originally posted by SBS7557R:

  SBS Transit Mercedes-Benz O530 (Evobus)

  Quantity: 49 / 300

  Bus Services
  - Service 16 (Bedok Int - Bukit Merah Int)
  - Service 28 (Tampines Int - Toa Payoh Int)
  - Service 48 (Upper East Coast Ter - Buona Vista Ter)
  - Service 124 (St. Michael's Ter - Telok Blangah Dr)
  - Service 138 (Ang Mo Kio Int - Mandai Lake Rd)
  - Service 195 (Marina Centre Ter - Commonwealth Dr)

  Buses
  - SBS6000L (BNDEP 28)
  - SBS6001J (BNDEP 28)
  - SBS6002G (AMDEP 138)
  - SBS6003D (AMDEP 138)
  - SBS6004B (AMDEP 138)
  - SBS6005Z (AMDEP 138)
  - SBS6006X (ARBP 16)
  - SBS6007T (AMDEP SP)
  - SBS6008R (AMDEP SP)
  - SBS6009M (AMDEP SP)
  - SBS6010H (AMDEP SP)
  - SBS6011E (AMDEP SP)
  - SBS6012C (AMDEP SP)
  - SBS6013A (AMDEP SP)
  - SBS6014Y (AMDEP SP)
  - SBS6015U (AMDEP SP)
  - SBS6016S (AMDEP SP)
  - SBS6017P (ARBP 16)
  - SBS6018L
  - SBS6019J (BBDEP SP)
  - SBS6020D (BBDEP SP)
  - SBS6021B
  - SBS6022Z
  - SBS6023X
  - SBS6024T
  - SBS6025R
  - SBS6026M
  - SBS6027K
  - SBS6028H
  - SBS6029E
  - SBS6030A
  - SBS6031Y
  - SBS6032U
  - SBS6033S
  - SBS6034P
  - SBS6035L
  - SBS6036J
  - SBS6037G
  - SBS6038D
  - SBS6039B
  - SBS6040X
  - SBS6041T
  - SBS6043M
  - SBS6044K
  - SBS6045H
  - SBS6046E
  - SBS6047C
  - SBS6048A
  - SBS6049Y
  - SBS6050S

  Depot Headcount:
  - AMDEP: 14
  - ARBP: 2
  - BNDEP: 2
  - BRBP: 0
  - BBDEP: 2
  - HGDEP: 0
  - SLBP: 0
  - Undeployed Buses: 29 / 49

  When did 124 have citaros?

• SBS7557R

  7 Jul 11, 21:35

  SBS Transit Mercedes-Benz O530 (Evobus)

  Quantity: 54 / 300

  Bus Services
  16, 28, 138, 195

  Buses
  > SBS6000L (BNDEP 28)
  > SBS6001J (BNDEP 28)
  > SBS6002G (AMDEP 138)
  > SBS6003D (AMDEP 138)
  > SBS6004B (AMDEP 138)
  > SBS6005Z (AMDEP 138)
  > SBS6006X (ARBP 16)
  > SBS6007T (AMDEP SP)
  > SBS6008R (AMDEP SP)
  > SBS6009M (AMDEP SP)
  > SBS6010H (AMDEP SP)
  > SBS6011E (AMDEP SP)
  > SBS6012C (AMDEP SP)
  > SBS6013A (AMDEP SP)
  > SBS6014Y (AMDEP SP)
  > SBS6015U (AMDEP SP)
  > SBS6016S (AMDEP SP)
  > SBS6017P (ARBP 16)
  > SBS6018L (BBDEP SP)
  > SBS6019J (ARBP 195/195A*)
  > SBS6020D (ARBP 195/195A*)
  > SBS6021B
  > SBS6022Z
  > SBS6023X
  > SBS6024T
  > SBS6025R
  > SBS6026M
  > SBS6027K
  > SBS6028H
  > SBS6029E
  > SBS6030A
  > SBS6031Y
  > SBS6032U
  > SBS6033S
  > SBS6034P
  > SBS6035L
  > SBS6036J
  > SBS6037G
  > SBS6038D
  > SBS6039B
  > SBS6040X
  > SBS6041T
  > SBS6042R
  > SBS6043M
  > SBS6044K
  > SBS6045H
  > SBS6046E
  > SBS6047C
  > SBS6048A
  > SBS6049Y
  > SBS6050S
  > SBS6051P
  > SBS6052L
  > SBS6053J

  Depot Headcount:
  > AMDEP: 14
  > ARBP: 4
  > BNDEP: 2
  > BRBP: 0
  > BBDEP: 1
  > HGDEP: 0
  > SLBP: 0

• TownLink 291

  9 Jul 11, 14:00

  SBST Mercedes Benz O530 Citaro
  New Total: 54/300

  Registered: 8 Jul 2011
  
  SBS6042R
  SBS6047C
  SBS6051P
  SBS6052L
  SBS6053J
  

• SBS8155K

  10 Jul 11, 15:38

  If you say 124 have Citaros, then where is the proof?
• SBS 1000U

  10 Jul 11, 16:54

  Saw a Citaro on 195 yesterday, around 5pm outside IKEA Alexender Road.  

• SBS8675B

  10 Jul 11, 17:49

  Originally posted by SBS 1000U:

  Saw a Citaro on 195 yesterday, around 5pm outside IKEA Alexender Road.  

  
  Both 6019J and 6020D did 195 yesterday.

• SBS8155K

  10 Jul 11, 17:58

  What about 48?
• AEW5001

  10 Jul 11, 18:03

  Originally posted by SBS8155K:

  What about 48?

  
  sv48 is the morning x-over from sv16. 1 bus, 1/2 trip.

• TIB1234T

  10 Jul 11, 19:22

  Spotted SBS6077R and SBS6082A at C&C. The rego will soon reach SBS6100G. All of them already had the SBS Transit logos on...

• brotherchen1982

  10 Jul 11, 19:36

  Originally posted by TIB1234T:

  Spotted SBS6077R and SBS6082A at C&C. The rego will soon reach SBS6100G. All of them already had the SBS Transit logos on...

  
  

  this 2 bus parked facing the main road for a few days.

  605x-606x Citaros should be dispatch to bus parks/depots already