Originally posted by TIB770T:Suspected to be a MAN NG363 (A23), it's undergoing bodying now.
I hope it's for SMRT when completed.
Originally posted by Myhabit:I hope it's for SMRT when completed.
It should be for SMRT, but if SBS Transit want MAN buses, they can buy 200 NG363s to replace the MK4s.
Originally posted by Gus.chong:It should be for SMRT, but if SBS Transit want MAN buses, they can buy 200 NG363s to replace the MK4s.
I highly doubt SBST will buy bendy buses....
Originally posted by TIB770T:I highly doubt SBST will buy bendy buses....
Oops. I thought NG363F were rigids. But anyway, if SBS Transit is to order buses for fleet replacements, they can chose to buy MAN NL323Fs. No more purchase of Citaros for SBST please!
Originally posted by Gus.chong:Oops. I thought NG363F were rigids. But anyway, if SBS Transit is to order buses for fleet replacements, they can chose to buy MAN NL323Fs. No more purchase of Citaros for SBST please!
NGxx3F A24 is a bendy chassis while NLxx3F A22 is a rigid chassis. Please, I want more Citaros for SMRT!
Originally posted by Myhabit:NGxx3F A24 is a bendy chassis while NLxx3F A22 is a rigid chassis. Please, I want more Citaros for SMRT!
I also want more Citaros for SMRT. But I also want 150 NG363Fs and 150 Citaro Gs for SMRT too once the box bendies had started retiring.
Originally posted by Myhabit:NGxx3F A24 is a bendy chassis while NLxx3F A22 is a rigid chassis. Please, I want more Citaros for SMRT!
Both A23 and A24 are bendies, but the A24 is slightly longer than the A23 (17980mm vs 18750mm).
Originally posted by TIB770T:Both A23 and A24 are bendies, but the A24 is slightly longer than the A23 (17980mm vs 18750mm).
A24 is NG313, A23 is NG363.
Originally posted by Gus.chong:Oops. I thought NG363F were rigids. But anyway, if SBS Transit is to order buses for fleet replacements, they can chose to buy MAN NL323Fs. No more purchase of Citaros for SBST please!
I hope SBST will buy more Citaros, since they have already improved the air con system for the next 150 buses. Even much better than SMRT ones now. ![]()
Originally posted by SBS 1000U:
I hope SBST will buy more Citaros, since they have already improved the air con system for the next 150 buses. Even much better than SMRT ones now.
SBST already purchase 300 Citaros. It will be really the end of the world if you get SBST to buy more Citaros. Instead, I began to think that my reply to your post on 25 Nov last year is right. SMRT should really purchase some more Citaros.
Originally posted by Gus.chong:It should be for SMRT, but if SBS Transit want MAN buses, they can buy 200 NG363s to replace the MK4s.
Originally posted by Gus.chong:SBST already purchase 300 Citaros. It will be really the end of the world if you get SBST to buy more Citaros. Instead, I began to think that my reply to your post on 25 Nov last year is right. SMRT should really purchase some more Citaros.
Why SMRT can buy Citaros and SBST can't buy??? What kind of logic is that???
SBST has more buses to cater the loads, especially using double deckers. They don't have to worry. And SBST Citaros carries more people than SMRT ones.
If the passenger capacity of Citaros is so small, then SMRT shouldn't even be buying Citaros because they can't fit in overcrowding demands due to their shortage of buses, which instead they should buy more Scania K series or OC500s instead.
Originally posted by C151 039/040:
SMRT should stop buying bendies from now onwards. Change it to Wright Eclipse Gemini 2 and Enviro500 (3-axles).
No. SMRT should continue to buy bendies. I want Mercedes-Benz Citaro Gs, MAN NG313s and MAN NG363Fs.
You might as well buy the buses yourself and sell it to SMRT for $0.
Originally posted by SBS 1000U:
Why SMRT can buy Citaros and SBST can't buy??? What kind of logic is that???SBST has more buses to cater the loads, especially using double deckers. They don't have to worry. And SBST Citaros carries more people than SMRT ones.
If the passenger capacity of Citaros is so small, then SMRT shouldn't even be buying Citaros because they can't fit in overcrowding demands due to their shortage of buses, which instead they should buy more Scania K series or OC500s instead.
SMRT can buy Citaros because they only have 51 of such buses, but SBST have 300 by the end of the year. The issue is not about the capacity. Though I agree with you that SMRT should buy Scania K230UBs, but now the era has changed over the months and everyone's view will change as well. I'm now in a mood of Citaros and MAN bendies for SMRT.
Sorry to spoil the party, but Scania no longer produces the K230UB and MAN no longer produces the NG 313.
In the latest variants, Scania produces the K280UB, K320UB and K360UB rigid buses and MAN produces the NG 323 or NG 363 articulated buses.
Originally posted by TIB770T:Both A23 and A24 are bendies, but the A24 is slightly longer than the A23 (17980mm vs 18750mm).
Errr... NO.
A23 and A24 are the same, but A23 is an integral product (i.e. chassis & bodywork) whereas A24 is chassis ONLY.
Originally posted by Powered_By_CNG:Sorry to spoil the party, but Scania no longer produces the K230UB and MAN no longer produces the NG 313.
In the latest variants, Scania produces the K280UB, K320UB and K360UB rigid buses and MAN produces the NG 323 or NG 363 articulated buses.
How do you explain the K230UBs appearing on the Changi Airport shuttles? Do you know when they were introduced into service?
Originally posted by Gus.chong:SMRT can buy Citaros because they only have 51 of such buses, but SBST have 300 by the end of the year. The issue is not about the capacity. Though I agree with you that SMRT should buy Scania K230UBs, but now the era has changed over the months and everyone's view will change as well. I'm now in a mood of Citaros and MAN bendies for SMRT.
SMRT should get some Citaros out of the 550 Citaros!
Originally posted by Gus.chong:SMRT can buy Citaros because they only have 51 of such buses, but SBST have 300 by the end of the year. The issue is not about the capacity. Though I agree with you that SMRT should buy Scania K230UBs, but now the era has changed over the months and everyone's view will change as well. I'm now in a mood of Citaros and MAN bendies for SMRT.
SBST fleet is bigger, so they can have the capacity to get more Citaros. 300 is only a small percentage in their 3000 fleet. So should get more Citaros as well.
Well, you can say that is your mood but it is more logical for for SMRT to get more MAN A22s now since MAN bus is their new distributor now. And bendies isn't applicable to our infrastructure and operation changes from now, so will be better that SMRT switches to MAN doublde deckers instead. Double deckers are in long run better for SMRT. ![]()
Actually I wouldn't mind getting 1000 Higers, Yutongs, King Longs and watching some folks writh in pain here.![]()
So long as they dont use Cummins engines and they dont explode in my face.....oh and good aircon. I can live with the rest.![]()
Originally posted by SBS2601D:Actually I wouldn't mind getting 1000 Higers, Yutongs, King Longs and watching some folks writh in pain here.
So long as they dont use Cummins engines and they dont explode in my face.....oh and good aircon. I can live with the rest.
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Originally posted by Gus.chong:How do you explain the K230UBs appearing on the Changi Airport shuttles? Do you know when they were introduced into service?
In the 1st place,i thought ppl were saying that they were K270UBs??
Originally posted by Powered_By_CNG:Sorry to spoil the party, but Scania no longer produces the K230UB and MAN no longer produces the NG 313.
In the latest variants, Scania produces the K280UB, K320UB and K360UB rigid buses and MAN produces the NG 323 or NG 363 articulated buses.So
When did K230UB stopped production?
Originally posted by Gus.chong:SBST already purchase 300 Citaros. It will be really the end of the world if you get SBST to buy more Citaros. Instead, I began to think that my reply to your post on 25 Nov last year is right. SMRT should really purchase some more Citaros.
Originally posted by Airbus330Captain:
I think you should just stop your rubbish in this forum. Go and get yourself scrap with the f lousy scania buses. Seriously irritating and annoying to some of us.
That is why we need more Citaros! :D