Originally posted by SMB388S:
Why use MCV bodywork~ Lion City is original manufacturer better quality~
Is MCV bodied by GM?
You don't get the point, Lion City Bodywork in Singapore is designed by MAN but manufactured and assembled in GM. You don't know what's going on. If you want everything original bodywork live in Berlin, Germany. No one wants you here, anyway.
BUT, Lion City DD, Lion City bodywork in Berlin is from MAN design and manufacturing cause their HQ is in Germany.
Originally posted by OMSI123:Is MCV bodied by GM?
You don't get the point, Lion City Bodywork in Singapore is designed by MAN but manufactured and assembled in GM. You don't know what's going on. If you want everything original bodywork live in Berlin, Germany. No one wants you here, anyway.
BUT, Lion City DD, Lion City bodywork in Berlin is from MAN design and manufacturing cause their HQ is in Germany.
Originally posted by SBS9C:Don't like the way that Gemilang omits stuff from the original bodywork such as MAN Lion logos from the front and rear, MAN logos at the sides, MAN logos in the interior, as well as the roof and side marker lights. In addition, the driver's cabin roof curve design is copied from MCV's bodywork and not from MAN.
Hope the last 100 A22s use the updated MCV bodywork.
That's not the only thing they omitted. Effectively, the whole interior from the Lion's City is omitted. Gemilang basically only used the exterior design from the Lion's City.
Originally posted by Bus Stopping:Not exactly true. The more powerful engine will only save fuel if the less powerful engine is running beyond it's optimum range. However, the converse also applies. If the more powerful engine is running under it's optimal range, it would also use up more fuel (i.e. most of the time at low rpms due to too little a load). The key is to find a optimal balance where the drivetrain would be most efficient for the type of terrain and service (city traffic or short distance high turnover, rural, highway) that the bus would operate on.
The powerful engines scenario applies especially to large displacement engines, where the crankshaft of the engine would have to travel a longer distance at every cycle, thus being very inefficient, and space consuming due to the larger engine. Advanced systems such as intercoolers and variable geometry turbocharges do provide the ability to have a smaller displacement engine while maintaining similar power and torque levels.
Last but not least, the more powerful the engine, the maintaience and consumerables costs is generally higher as there would be more stress on components. In such cases, oil and filter changes would have to be done more often. The engine could then be derated from it's original output to save costs and extend it's lifespan.
thank you for your very valuable insight. i think the best comprimise would be an 8/9 litre engine with an output of around 280 to 300hp or so, considering that buses seem to be heavier nowadays
Originally posted by Bus Fan:So maybe the blank spae no. 355-387 and 389 are for bendies. Maybe Citaro Gs or MAN 13+m bus
Singapore infrastructure doesn't support >13m rigids. Sorry
Originally posted by SMB388S:
But Citaro is original bodywork so Superlion and Mandy must also be made in Germany to have same standard~
Yes I know Citaro is original. But this isnt Citaro topic. This is MAN A22 topic. Don't dream on. The truth is that GM copied the design and manufactured it. Causing it to be shit. So don't talk cork and fack off.
Originally posted by OMSI123:Yes I know Citaro is original. But this isnt Citaro topic. This is MAN A22 topic. Don't dream on. The truth is that GM copied the design and manufactured it. Causing it to be shit. So don't talk cork and fack off.
Originally posted by Bus Fan:
GM copied Citaro design?
No. C&C (Cycle & Carriage) is doing all the work for Citaros. They do a good job though. As far as I know the bodywork isn't copied for Citaro.
newer MAN buses with only 1 seat on the right, trust me
Originally posted by SBS9C:... connections with STK. I agree, would rather SMRT to invest more on the bodywork rather than...Citaro, so it makes no sense for SMRT to get the more pricey 320hp version,...feels cheap too, would be better if SMRT stick to the older outward swinging doors ...
Who itchy hand go edit my post ar?
Originally posted by SBS9C:Who itchy hand go edit my post ar?
It's a bug...
Originally posted by No_10_Tomas:newer MAN buses with only 1 seat on the right, trust me
Sure is buses? Not bus yeah?
Originally posted by No_10_Tomas:newer MAN buses with only 1 seat on the right, trust me
So, SMB1341U is the test unit to test the building of singel seats infront?
Originally posted by SBS2656X:It's a bug...
I see. Because of this sentence I thought is someone go edit my post. "I agree, would rather SMRT to invest more on the bodywork rather than...Citaro"
MAN A22 same model, but single-seat configuration on the right, just like bendies Mk 1
trust me
more standing spaces
Originally posted by No_10_Tomas:MAN A22 same model, but single-seat configuration on the right, just like bendies Mk 1
trust me
more standing spaces
If they removed the two poles or placed it nearer to the chairs, then yes, there is more standing space. Currently with the two poles there, who would want to stand beside the seating pax? Awkward position to stand?
Also, they could also have placed the single seats on the nearside, then there is a large walk way from the front to the exit. The interior is just not very well designed.
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Originally posted by No_10_Tomas:newer MAN buses with only 1 seat on the right, trust me
Not all newer buses are. Yesterday I boarded SMB1349Z and SMB1353K and they have the same interior as most Batch 2 buses.
Originally posted by Gus.chong:Not all newer buses are. Yesterday I boarded SMB1349Z and SMB1353K and they have the same interior as most Batch 2 buses.
he say newer MAN buses mah.. he also never say from which rego... newer can mean those not registered one...
Originally posted by lemon1974:he say newer MAN buses mah.. he also never say from which rego... newer can mean those not registered one...
It is obvious as to where he can go to find those unregistered buses...But as what SMB66X and TIB1234T had hinted, some was from those already registered, e.g. SMB1341U.
Originally posted by Gus.chong:It is obvious as to where he can go to find those unregistered buses...But as what SMB66X and TIB1234T had hinted, some was from those already registered, e.g. SMB1341U.
SMB1341U is more of a trial and design for the new interior layout.
Originally posted by OMSI123:Is MCV bodied by GM?
You don't get the point, Lion City Bodywork in Singapore is designed by MAN but manufactured and assembled in GM. You don't know what's going on. If you want everything original bodywork live in Berlin, Germany. No one wants you here, anyway.
BUT, Lion City DD, Lion City bodywork in Berlin is from MAN design and manufacturing cause their HQ is in Germany.
Only dumbf*ck copycat kid like SMB388S will never understand and crap blindly with smelly shit everywhere.
SMB388S STFU LOOK AT THIS : DESIGN BY MAN NO. GEMILANG LICENSE DESIGN FROM MAN MANUFACTURE WITH THEIR OWN BODYWORK MATERIAL.
BUILD AND ASSEMBLE AT GEMILANG FACTORY AND IS 100% GEMILANG BODYWORK. CHOOSE GEMILANG IS TO SAVE COST ON SHIPPING DUMB. DONT UNDERSTAND DON'T COPY FROM WHAT BIS CLAIM YOU KNOW ALOT WHEN U KNOW NOTHING
http://busesingapore.blogspot.sg/2011/10/smrt-buses-man-nl323f-a22-gemilang.html
you want anyhow scandal other people, read carefully first, even the photo album of A22 on that page also say Gemilang.
And since you farkin blind I explain u this you anyhow copy out : THAT PAGE IS TALKING ABOUT THE DESIGN AND WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE HAIR DUMBASS. NO WONDER COPY BLINDLY TAKE THINGS OUT OF CONTEXT, BLARDY PARROT LOOK AT THE BOLD THING IF NOT GO FOR EYE OPERATION
This is really an FAQ (frequently asked question) - what's the purpose of that "hair" on the Superlion for?
SMRT Buses chose that Lion's City Hybrid design is due to the aesthetically pleasing design. It looks very sleek and eye-catching. The "hair" actually has a purpose - to hide the Denso airconditioning pod like how the original Lion's City Hybrid hides the high-performance capacitors used to store braking energy as well as the energy-management system. In the actual Hybrid bus, cool air is channelled to the capacitors through the front air ducts to cool the capacitors.
Also, the Lion's City Hybrid design won the red dot award: product design 2011! Hope this kind of help answer this FAQ.
Originally posted by Gus.chong:It is obvious as to where he can go to find those unregistered buses...But as what SMB66X and TIB1234T had hinted, some was from those already registered, e.g. SMB1341U.
Got one more BSEP bus with this seating arrangement. Since the blardy clone SMB388S loves to copy parrot, ask it go find out what rego.