Originally posted by TIB 501 D:So the citaros' problem is the poor acceleration?
But they have high top speeds, like 70km/h...
high top speed may not always mean good acceleration ( the citaro's engine has to run at very high speeds at 60km/h compared to say a Volvo B9TL or the MAN NL323F )
Originally posted by TIB868X:high top speed may not always mean good acceleration ( the citaro's engine has to run at very high speeds at 60km/h compared to say a Volvo B9TL or the MAN NL323F )
Good accleration means high amount of torque.
Originally posted by SBS7491X:In the Singapore Buses thread, "Bus 11" does not apply here.
Oh really? ![]()
Originally posted by SBS6305H:Good accleration means high amount of torque.
i know, just compare the citaro's maximum of 1120Nm @ 1200 - 1600 rpmm and the A22's maximum of 1600 Nm at 1000 rpm - 1400 rpm...
maximum horsepower (and top speed) is there but at much higher engine speeds
PS. I've seen Volvo B9TLs (CDGE) with ZF jerking very badly when they shift in the RPM's red zone...
I had asked a svc 27 BC about which type of buses (Citaro vs KUB) he prefers to drive. He said that it depends. He prefers the KUB for shorter routes especially those with a lot of bus stops as driving out of them is easier compared to the Citaro which is really slow in driving out. On the highway, he prefers the Citaro as there is more power when accelerating up to 60km/h, and it is more comfortable than KUBs.
IMO, Citaros would have been a much better choice if the aircon vents were fitted like the MAN NL323F or the B9TL wrights.
I would greatly enjoy a Citaro ride if the aircon is strong enough.
Originally posted by SBS8501U:IMO, Citaros would have been a much better choice if the aircon vents were fitted like the MAN NL323F or the B9TL wrights.
I would greatly enjoy a Citaro ride if the aircon is strong enough.
SBST has since then improved the aircon strength of citaros.
Take a look at that SBS6148U that I "advertised"![]()
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Who is the bc last time driving the dart on 109?
Originally posted by carbikebus:Who is the bc last time driving the dart on 109?
None other than you
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Who's the one driving mk2 bendy cameo on 811?
The user above me
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OMFG Wright with 170 EDS go JB!!! Pic on FB!!!
Originally posted by Airbus330Captain:
This is a baseless allegation, total BS from you. Citaro buses are fine as it is, the ones that are underpowered are not Citaros, the Scania KUBs. You want to try, go and try on services that have both Citaro and Scania. Asked the drivers yourself and see their response. I have seen and taken many times on Citaro and underpower? How powerful do you want 6L engine to be? You don't like the Citaro, fine. Please STOP these BASELESS Allegations. Talk with FACTS and not RUBBISH. Thank you!
See!!! Citaros is the best!!! So SMRT should buy 200 more Euro VI Citaros!!!!
Originally posted by Jason Lim WD:
If a KUB or Citaro bunch up on 53, i'll take whichever arrives at the bus stop first, or which has more space and available seating.
I choose Citaro more comfortable n class!!!
Originally posted by SBS 6078 M:So you're saying that you think KUBs are best?
Just stating the facts, your tone is like 'SBS1000U' who implements his hatred to bendies in 2 threads. You're either his 'number 2' aka clone or him. He disappeared and you came in to post all this shits. Dosen't pay off anymore like I said.
See!!! Citaro is still better!!! Those who say KUBs are best is full of shit!!!
Originally posted by SMB228X:See!!! Citaro is still better!!! Those who say KUBs are best is full of shit!!!
You always seem to reply to those who support Citaros, but when other people say Citaros are shit you dun wan reply directly anymore.
Seems like what they say...you cannot deny?
Originally posted by Airbus330Captain:
This is a baseless allegation, total BS from you. Citaro buses are fine as it is, the ones that are underpowered are not Citaros, the Scania KUBs. You want to try, go and try on services that have both Citaro and Scania. Asked the drivers yourself and see their response. I have seen and taken many times on Citaro and underpower? How powerful do you want 6L engine to be? You don't like the Citaro, fine. Please STOP these BASELESS Allegations. Talk with FACTS and not RUBBISH. Thank you!
Ignore these people if you can. They think they are real experts.
And do keep your K230UB negative comments to yourself. I don't think they are so bad. :)
Originally posted by SMB228X:See!!! Citaro is still better!!! Those who say KUBs are best is full of shit!!!
I don't give a shit. But I say KUD is the best amongst the 3 types of buses.
...SBS2709C driver used half of road shoulder + Exiting/Entering lane[with many lines----] to kill waiting time in a jam(ended up bunching with 9229A, aka front bus of 2709C), legal? :/
Driver commented Scania's good to drive(for him)~~
...that some of WLDEP habit bendies windows are filled with water. Like fish tank haha
Might as well put in some fish inside...![]()
TIB1032J and TIB1244P
Their standard mah...I pity the MANs/OCs and probably the demo bendy
Originally posted by TIB1218R:...that some of WLDEP habit bendies windows are filled with water. Like fish tank haha
Might as well put in some fish inside...
TIB1032J and TIB1244P
With their standard I think the fish will also die
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... that service 334 is not found on the SBST IRIS?
it has been few weeks.
hope SBST will do something about it. thank u
SBS5155E has it's rear door left reader replaced with the SMRT's old reader