Did you know...? (Part 5)

• sbst275

  26 Dec 12, 23:49

  depends on what tender it is.. they want easy access bus, you gg alrdy...
• dan474

  27 Dec 12, 00:05

  Originally posted by vicamour:

  
  So SMRT should NOT even be participating the tender in the first place, if it is serious in mind of improving public transport first. But no, they don't put that in mind. They are more concerned about profits than what they are supposed to provide.

  Don't use LTA as an excuse to hide that mistake. If they are serious about their bus services, they should have withdraw their buses to improve their current bus services by their own initiatives and use only their BusPlus buses for RWS till the current contract expires.

  
  And waste money who pays? End up increasing bus fares for average Singaporeans to pay for their inefficiencies.

  They are participating in the tender under Bus-Plus's name ...

  Do you think switching to 19 seater buses solves the problem? Let's say each 12m can carry 80 pax and a Coaster can carry 25 (with standing pax). A fleet of 15 12m buses can carry 1200 pax, and you need 48 Coasters to carry the same amount of pax. It does not solve anything, you need more drivers and waste more fuel.

  They are already kind enough to add 1-2 more AP to BPJ services regardless of BSEP or not since the interchange closed... And indeed the frequencies of the services are faster by 1-5min.

  In the first place I don't see why bus fares should be increased. Both CDG (SBST's parent company) and SMRT are seeing 6 green digits in the financial reports each year...

• sbst275

  27 Dec 12, 00:13

  do your realise why Bus Plus was used??? It's game of strategy... But I guess, put it bluntly... RWS68 miscarriaged...
• vicamour

  27 Dec 12, 00:14

  Originally posted by dan474:

  They are participating in the tender under Bus-Plus's name ...

  
  So? It is still the same case. They are wasting resources from SMRTB to operate these non essential services. If they use BusPlus, then uses BusPlus buses, not SMRTB buses.

  And they have the nerve to use one name to bid the tender and yet waste another entity's resources to provide the service that is not meant for them.

  What is this? An example of using another person's signature to gain an approval of a matter? It says so much about the company. No wonder now it has so many problems.

  Originally posted by dan474:

  Do you think switching to 19 seater buses solves the problem? Let's say each 12m can carry 80 pax and a Coaster can carry 25 (with standing pax). A fleet of 15 12m buses can carry 1200 pax, and you need 48 Coasters to carry the same amount of pax. It does not solve anything, you need more drivers and waste more fuel.

  They are already kind enough to add 1-2 more AP to BPJ services regardless of BSEP or not since the interchange closed... And indeed the frequencies of the services are faster by 1-5min.

  In the first place I don't see why bus fares should be increased. Both CDG (SBST's parent company) and SMRT are seeing 6 green digits in the financial reports each year...

  
  If they are to know that  the demand is to be higher than a midibus from BusPlus, then they shouldn't have wasted their resources for such non essential services in the first place. Let the private operators do the RWS services. Their main purpose is public bus service, not tour bus for gambling dens.

  If they do not know what are their priorities, then don't operate public bus services at all.

• dan474

  27 Dec 12, 00:17

  Originally posted by vicamour:

  
  So? It is still the same case. They are wasting resources from SMRTB to operate these non essential services. If they use BusPlus, then uses BusPlus buses, not SMRTB buses.

  And they have the nerve to use one name to bid the tender and yet waste another entity's resources to provide the service that is not meant for them.

  What is this? An example of using another person's signature to gain an approval of a matter? It says so much about the company. No wonder now it has so many problems.

  Bus-plus is entitled to use SMRT's fleet of buses at its disposal... Their parent company are the same what

• sbst275

  27 Dec 12, 00:19

  Obviously someone does not even realise Bus - Plus's holding... Very special position indeed... Revenue does not matter.. end up dun make money, end up so much mgmt problem got what use?
• SMB66X

  27 Dec 12, 00:20

  ....some bus plus seats super uncomfortable(the backrest part, too straight)~ I wonder if the Toyota Company knows and same goes for SMRT~ 

  And same goes for certain model of the public transport(eg. Volvo MK4)

• vicamour

  27 Dec 12, 00:25

  Originally posted by dan474:

  Bus-plus is entitled to use SMRT's fleet of buses at its disposal... Their parent company are the same what

  
  Like what I have just said, if that is not its essential service, then don't even touch it, especially when you can't even properly handle what is required for the core business. And depriving the core business by wasting its resources for such non essential services is certainly a very bad planning. The entitlement is even wrong in the first place, giving the wrong rights to waste resources operating something useless to the core.

  If SMRT is so keen in private bus operations, then give up all their public bus operations instead.

  Originally posted by sbst275:

  depends on what tender it is..

  they want easy access bus, you gg alrdy…

  
  If only SBSL still exist.

• sbst275

  27 Dec 12, 00:29

  Ahem Back in 1994... Tibs & SMRT jointly opened Bus Plus... That's the history... Now.. It can be a tool to get chartering.. Say of SMRT's train network, SMRT Road's expertise etc... But sadly.. as Air Show's problem shows it... you still gotta face w/ govt's planned infrastructure... Ended up still remembered that morning.. CGA Shuttle totally cannot cope.. dwell time tight like crap...
• carbikebus

  27 Dec 12, 21:47

  Dun worry come mid 2013 you will see a new SMRTB 

• TIB868X

  27 Dec 12, 22:05

  Originally posted by carbikebus:

  Dun worry come mid 2013 you will see a new SMRTB 

  :O

• SMB3001M

  28 Dec 12, 11:25

   

  

  credits to BIS

• SBS2656X

  28 Dec 12, 11:58

  Originally posted by SMB3001M:

   

  

  credits to BIS

  Some of them don't even vibrate...

• SMB145B

  28 Dec 12, 12:09

  i rode on some KUB, there isn't such problems.

  is that 228X back??

• dan474

  28 Dec 12, 12:17

  Originally posted by SMB145B:

  i rode on some KUB, there isn't such problems.

  is that 228X back??

  228X wannabe..

• lemon1974

  28 Dec 12, 12:48

  Originally posted by SMB66X:

  Too limited like choice of selection for new depots. Should spread out more, don't be like Woodlands area one, double depot~ Unless they arrange the service well(eg. New one take Woodlands/CCK/BPJ side, Old one tkae Woodlands/Yishun/AMK side).

  the new one is just bus park... not depot mah....

• carbikebus

  28 Dec 12, 13:28

  But still the location is...Would rather they built around Toh Tuck or Bt Batok area

• Gus.chong e

  28 Dec 12, 15:02

  Originally posted by SBS2656X:

  Some of them don't even vibrate...

  All of them vibrate!!! Those creepy KUBs won't be able to last 10 years!!! Citaros are the best!!! Comfortable and no vibration!!

• SBS6305H

  28 Dec 12, 15:03

  Originally posted by Gus.chong e:

  All of them vibrate!!! Those creepy KUBs won't be able to last 10 years!!! Citaros are the best!!! Comfortable and no vibration!!

  Rather get vibrations then get my ass burned. Crappy citaros. Comfortable? HAHHAHAHA! Cushion so thin call comfortable! 

• SMB145B

  28 Dec 12, 16:09

  Originally posted by SBS6305H:

  Rather get vibrations then get my ass burned. Crappy citaros. Comfortable? HAHHAHAHA! Cushion so thin call comfortable! 

  daheck?

  yeah this 228x and co must be sent to the scrapyard ASAP ...

  an fast-forward variant of gus??

• SMB3001M

  28 Dec 12, 16:10

  Originally posted by SBS6305H:

  Rather get vibrations then get my ass burned. Crappy citaros. Comfortable? HAHHAHAHA! Cushion so thin call comfortable! 

  citaro is underpowered. SMRT should get MAN superlion n bendy version. superlion is very powerful n suitable for singapore roads.

• Realmadridronaldosuper

  28 Dec 12, 18:18

  Smb 69M rear eds not working,spotted it on svc 969 along TPE tdy

• TIB 501 D

  28 Dec 12, 22:43

  Originally posted by Gus.chong e:

  All of them vibrate!!! Those creepy KUBs won't be able to last 10 years!!! Citaros are the best!!! Comfortable and no vibration!!

  PEOPLE LAZY TO STAND AT THE NARROW REAR AISLE OF YOUR CUITAROS!!! AND THEY GOT GEARBOX PROBLEM!!! BC MUST KEEP ON FLOORING THE ACCELERATOR LIKE SIAO JUST TO EVEN GET THE BUS TO MOVE 100M!!! SD NEED AT LEAST 280HP CUITARO ONI LIKE 265HP U CALL DIS POWERFUL??!!! CITARO BO VIBRATE MEH?!! WHAT A JOKE M A N... BC JAM BREAK ELDERLY FALL DOWN ON YOUR CUITAROS AND INJURE THEIR LEGS KENNA SENT TO HOSPITAL+ MEDICAL $$$!!!

  Srsly I like Citaros but not to this SMB228X extent...

• SMB66X

  28 Dec 12, 22:51

  Originally posted by Gus.chong e:

  All of them vibrate!!! Those creepy KUBs won't be able to last 10 years!!! Citaros are the best!!! Comfortable and no vibration!!

  If bus don't vibrate, how to even move?  Every bus will vibrate, it's the matter of how badly it is...bodoh~

• dan474

  28 Dec 12, 23:29

  citaro pickup worse than DAF har. DAF 220hp only lei.