Daimler delivers largest Asian Citaro order to date (Part 2)
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Originally posted by sbst275:
SBST's Citaro gearbox needs some tuning, the 3rd gear is activated at abt 30km/hr which is too low...
i find SBST's tuning better due to lower idle speed, they really got power at higher revs. maybe your ride the BC wasn't throttling at max?
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Originally posted by SMB228X:
Agree from 800 Citaros and Citaro Gs SBS and SMRT should get zf ecolife and ecomat for Citaros and mix of zf and voith for citaro g like when SMRT buy habit!!
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Originally posted by ^tamago^:
i find SBST's tuning better due to lower idle speed, they really got power at higher revs. maybe your ride the BC wasn't throttling at max?
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
By comparison the 7 litres Citaro look powerful than K230UB in terms of Hp/Nm.
6730cc 6 cylinders turbo 282hp/1200nm vs 9300cc 5 cylinders turbo 230hp/1050nm.
Mercedes-Benz Citaro with OM 906 hLA Euro 4/5/EEV = 6374cc 6cyl, 210kW/286hp @ 2200rpm, 1120Nm @ 1200-1600rpm. Fixed geometry turbocharger, Selective Catalytic Reduction (SCR) and unit injectors.
Mercedes-Benz Citaro or OC 500 LE with OM 457 hLA Euro 4/5/EEV - 11967cc 6cyl, 220kW/299hp @ 2000rpm, 1250Nm @ 1100rpm. Fixed geometry turbocharger, Selective Catalytic Reduction (SCR) and unit injectors.
Scania K230UB Euro 4 = 8967cc 5cyl, 170kW/230hp @ 1800rpm, 1050Nm @ 1100-1500rpm. Fixed geometry turbocharger, Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) and unit injectors.
Scania K230UB Euro 5/EEV = 9291cc 5cyl, 170kW/230hp @ 1800rpm, 1050Nm @ 1000-1500rpm. Variable geometry turbocharger (VGT), Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) and Extra High Pressure Injection (XPI).
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Originally posted by Bus Stopping:
The gear ratios on the transmission are fixed and can't be changed. What could be changed is the final drive ratio on the drive axle. Final drive ratio determines the maximum speed and effective torque of the vehicle.
Correct.
On the Citaro with 275/70R x 22.5 tyres, there's a choice of 5.27:1, 5.77:1 and 6.21:1, giving road speed of 99km/h, 90km/h or 84km/h respectively with a Voith DIWA.5 gearbox, or 117km/h, 107km/h or 99km/h respectively with a ZF-EcoLife gearbox. This is assuming that the OM 906 hLA engine is used. Because the OM 457 hLA peaks out at 200rpm lower, the road speeds offered by the above final drive ratios will be slightly lower.
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Originally posted by Merczrox:
U just only realised that??
The accleration of the Volvo B10M DM/Strider/DM3500 are just awesome
Especially ...
the awesome whistling sound of the DM
the awesome roaring of the Striders
the awesome speed of the DM3500
I love all the B10Ms that served Singapore from 1990s - 2015...
[ Most likely after refurbishment ].
I shall miss them :(
DM3500s are really harder to catch in Hougang area now.
13 of them only...
Sigh...
My only hope lies in 43, 74, 82,103, 107/107M, 156, 159, 161, 165 and a few more...
Sigh... DM3500s are totally extinct especially for 88 and 325...
88 once had 13 DM3500s perming on it.
325 once had regular DM3500 camoes before.
Now, no signs of DM3500s TOTALLY from 88.
Most recent camo to 325 is from SBS2703T.
Now, extinct.
They should just use the striders on 160/170. -
DM3500 should be used on 160 & 170.. Simply because it's just nice when the RTS is completed or 'did not materialise'...
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Mar 18 2012hrs
Spotted 6001J sv31, Marine Parade Rd[opp Tao nan sch] twds Tampines
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Spotted an unknown Citaro on 403 last Friday.
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6179 on 196e today.
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another citaro on sv 82 (6054G) today with 6137B
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Originally posted by Lsk138:
another citaro on sv 82 (6054G) today with 6137B
More than that spotted. Refer to cameo thread for more listings.
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Originally posted by SMB228X:
Citaro to be on 84 next??Your wish come true today. SBS6089G on 82/84 crossover.
And please don't feed the troll...
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Originally posted by SBS8676Z:
Your wish come true today. SBS6089G on 82/84 crossover.
And please don't feed the troll...
OMFG!!!!!!!! Citaro did 84 Today!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am a King Citaro Predictor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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We all know the politics behind demanding for Citaro alrdy. But heck, 506 still got Citaro? Lol
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Originally posted by Merczrox:
Facepalm..=.=HAHA, he was on the false assumption that all buses once old in age, will be rotten and left to rot for good lah.
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Originally posted by SMB228X:
OMFG!!!!!!!! Citaro did 84 Today!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am a King Citaro Predictor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yah yah yah...
Today also got 1 Citaro on 163 too...
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Originally posted by SMB228X:
OMFG!!!!!!!! Citaro did 84 Today!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am a King Citaro Predictor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by SBS 9631X:
HAHA, he was on the false assumption that all buses once old in age, will be rotten and left to rot for good lah.
Yeah.He and his seriously fucking screwed up lj logic and assumptions..
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Mar 19
Citaros running on sv196e morning/evening, i believe total 4 buses
SBS6155Z > sv14e evening trip
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Service 82 seems to be back with Striders today. Hardly any Citaros spotted.
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Originally posted by SBS8676Z:
Service 82 seems to be back with Striders today. Hardly any Citaros spotted.
There is at least 1 of them perm leh.
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Originally posted by sbst275:
Read the complains abt the LF buses somewhere in FB
LTA has mandatory made all purchases of new buses to be full low floor in future. All new buses must be full low full. -
Originally posted by vicamour:
LTA has mandatory made all purchases of new buses to be full low floor in future. All new buses must be full low full.YAY!!! SBS cannot buy any more creepy Scanias!!! They must buy Citaro or Citaro G!!!!
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Originally posted by SMB228X:
YAY!!! SBS cannot buy any more creepy Scanias!!! They must buy Citaro or Citaro G!!!!
Oh yeah? Who says they MUST?
The A22 is also full low floor wat.
And yes, even Scania is producing full low floor bus now.