800 new buses & 40 new bus routes (8 to ply MRT) by 2016
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Originally posted by SMB245X:
Hope the 800 buses will be Citaros! Only Mercedes Benz make good quality products!
Your 'X' makes me feel vexed, as though you disagree with SBST and SMRT to buy other buses.
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Originally posted by SMB245X:
Hope the 800 buses will be Citaros! Only Mercedes Benz make good quality products!
I have never sat on a mercedes benz bus before . So i dont know . Maybe volvo single deck buses -
Originally posted by SBS 3010C:
I have never sat on a mercedes benz bus before . So i dont know . Maybe volvo single deck busesAny single deck bus will do, no more Citaros for SBST please! SMRT can still purchase Citaros.
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Originally posted by Gus.chong:
Any single deck bus will do, no more Citaros for SBST please! SMRT can still purchase Citaros.
No, SBS should buy more Citaros and Citaro Gs! -
Facelift Citaros is the BEST!!!
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Originally posted by SMB228X:
No, SBS should buy more Citaros and Citaro Gs!As I said before, SBST did not keep SBS998Y and SBS999U for a reason.....and 300 Citaros is more than enough, for now....
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Originally posted by SMB228X:
No, SBS should buy more Citaros and Citaro Gs!SBST should buy other bus models instead of sticking onto the same bus models.
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Originally posted by Gus.chong:
SBST should buy other bus models instead of sticking onto the same bus models.
Higer? King long? Yutong? Sunlong??? -
If SBS found the bendy trial successful, we may have gone BRT. You dun see the implication dun you? Even London stopped buying bendies for a reason.
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Originally posted by SMB228X:
Higer? King long? Yutong? Sunlong???I can accept anything except for Mercedes-Benz.
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Originally posted by Gus.chong:
I can accept anything except for Mercedes-Benz.
Sorry, I rather SBST to buy products that have been proven for their quality, reliabilty, comfort and durability. Mercedes Benz buses has proven to be very realiable workhorses for SBST fleet, especially the O405s and OF1413s. The O405s are still so realiable after 17 years on the roads, which has proved a very good investment for SBST.I hope SBST will continue to use Mercedes Benz buses given the new generation of O530 Citaro buses and hope so that they will buy more Citaros to continue the legacy of Mercedes Benz buses in the SBST fleet since SBS started in 1973.
But for SMRT, too many Mercedes Benz buses in their fleet and getting boring. They should change to Scania, Sunlong, Kinglong, Higer, Yutong or Zhongtong OR maybe even revert back to Japanese makes like Hino and Nissan UD.
Originally posted by SMB228X:
No, SBS should buy more Citaros and Citaro Gs!
Citaros will be good but no Citaro Gs. Bendies are not practical in Singapore. -
Originally posted by SBS 1000U:
Sorry, I rather SBST to buy products that have been proven for their quality, reliabilty, comfort and durability. Mercedes Benz buses has proven to be very realiable workhorses for SBST fleet, especially the O405s and OF1413s. The O405s are still so realiable after 17 years on the roads, which has proved a very good investment for SBST.I hope SBST will continue to use Mercedes Benz buses given the new generation of O530 Citaro buses and hope so that they will buy more Citaros to continue the legacy of Mercedes Benz buses in the SBST fleet since SBS started in 1973.
But for SMRT, too many Mercedes Benz buses in their fleet and getting boring. They should change to Scania, Sunlong, Kinglong, Higer, Yutong or Zhongtong OR maybe even revert back to Japanese makes like Hino and Nissan UD.
Citaros will be good but no Citaro Gs. Bendies are not practical in Singapore.Though I like the Mercedes-Benz buses as well, but I really hope you can put an end to all this. How many Citaros do you want SBST to buy?
And I don't feel SMRT buses majority having Mercedes-Benz buses to be boring.
To me, Citaro Gs is a must to replace the O405Gs. Otherwise if the bus fleet is doubled (with rigids only), won't the buses like be stuck in a jam?
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Originally posted by Gus.chong:
Though I like the Mercedes-Benz buses as well, but I really hope you can put an end to all this. How many Citaros do you want SBST to buy?
And I don't feel SMRT buses majority having Mercedes-Benz buses to be boring.
To me, Citaro Gs is a must to replace the O405Gs. Otherwise if the bus fleet is doubled (with rigids only), won't the buses like be stuck in a jam?
As long as there is a need to replace buses, then they should buy more.
Then how much you want SMRT to buy??? 700 odd Mercedes buses out of its 900 buses, still not enough??? It's bored enough. Good thing they switch over to MAN. Hope to see other makes like Scania too.
Maybe the 1100 Scania KUBs are exchange with the whole SMRT fleet with SBST since you like Scania so much.
That is to your opinion. But Citaro Gs are not suitable for our roads, since they are prone to fires, even O405Gs are fire hazards. And if there are so many bendies on the roads, it will cause even worse jams and very very long queues. At least 12m buses have the flexibilities to move in and out without hogging the whole bus stop. Thus SMRT should get 12m MAN double deckers to replace all the bendies instead.
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Originally posted by SBS 1000U:
As long as there is a need to replace buses, then they should buy more.
Then how much you want SMRT to buy??? 700 odd Mercedes buses out of its 900 buses, still not enough??? It's bored enough. Good thing they switch over to MAN. Hope to see other makes like Scania too.
Maybe the 1100 Scania KUBs are exchange with the whole SMRT fleet with SBST since you like Scania so much.
That is to your opinion. But Citaro Gs are not suitable for our roads, since they are prone to fires, even O405Gs are fire hazards. And if there are so many bendies on the roads, it will cause even worse jams and very very long queues. At least 12m buses have the flexibilities to move in and out without hogging the whole bus stop. Thus SMRT should get 12m MAN double deckers to replace all the bendies instead.
800 more Citaros is not boring! Get the facelift version with 12 liter engine, gorba mobitec or hanover eds and different gearbox like ZF! Everyone deserves comfortable buses to work and school!
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sorry.. but need to wake up $280m for 550 additional buses, tat's like ADD purchases? Still fancy abt Citaro
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got include 10 years' funding for the operations for these buses.
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Originally posted by SMB228X:
800 more Citaros is not boring! Get the facelift version with 12 liter engine, gorba mobitec or hanover eds and different gearbox like ZF! Everyone deserves comfortable buses to work and school!
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Originally posted by sbst275:
sorry.. but need to wake up
$280m for 550 additional buses, tat’s like ADD purchases?
Still fancy abt Citaro
Mercedes maybe design Citaro D for Singapore, F1RST in the world!
550 buses worth quarter billion dollars! Who don't want???
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Originally posted by ^tamago^:
got include 10 years' funding for the operations for these buses.
$280m is the upfront for bus chia... $820m for running cost -
Originally posted by SMB228X:
800 more Citaros is not boring! Get the facelift version with 12 liter engine, gorba mobitec or hanover eds and different gearbox like ZF! Everyone deserves comfortable buses to work and school!
I prefer Citaro 3. Fitted with OM457hLA (299bhp), LAWO High-LED and Voith Diwa 864.5.
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Originally posted by SBS 1000U:
As long as there is a need to replace buses, then they should buy more.
Then how much you want SMRT to buy??? 700 odd Mercedes buses out of its 900 buses, still not enough??? It's bored enough. Good thing they switch over to MAN. Hope to see other makes like Scania too.
Maybe the 1100 Scania KUBs are exchange with the whole SMRT fleet with SBST since you like Scania so much.
That is to your opinion. But Citaro Gs are not suitable for our roads, since they are prone to fires, even O405Gs are fire hazards. And if there are so many bendies on the roads, it will cause even worse jams and very very long queues. At least 12m buses have the flexibilities to move in and out without hogging the whole bus stop. Thus SMRT should get 12m MAN double deckers to replace all the bendies instead.
SMRT to me I think at least 150 Citaros to bring the total to at least 200.
But to me, I like Mercedes-Benz buses for SMRT, I don't feel so boring. As long as a person likes it, it won't be boring.
You don't seems to understand what jam I'm referring to. Refer to this link:
http://www.sbstransit.com.sg/doyouknow/facts_bus.aspx#1 -
Originally posted by Myhabit:
I prefer Citaro 3. Fitted with OM457hLA (299bhp), LAWO High-LED and Voith Diwa 864.5.
For the EDS, I prefer Hanover EDS or LECIP EDS.
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Originally posted by sbst275:
sorry.. but need to wake up
$280m for 550 additional buses, tat’s like ADD purchases?
Still fancy abt Citaro
Yes, for the next 6 years, the LO3X, VO2X & VO3X will have to be replaced.
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Originally posted by sbst275:
sorry.. but need to wake up
$280m for 550 additional buses, tat’s like ADD purchases?
Still fancy abt Citaro
so SBST indirectly can buy SDs instead to replace those VO3x... while govt help to funds the DDs replacement ....another way of subsidy... 200 LO3x + 100 VO2x + 470 VO3x... SBST already bought 450 Wrights.. left around 320 DDs to be replace...
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problem is... 10 year nia...
Likely they'll be sent to scrapyard aft their 10 yrs of use..
zheng hu style of doing things