Double Deckers for SMRT
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Originally posted by SMB66X:
There's a board stated at each station bro(or you never even take MRT before?)
During peak hours, at most you add in about
10mins?(rough value) to the timing written on the board. Yes, the timing is quite accurate..
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You might not considered it, but I considered that as speeding, or chionging~ Most drivers hit up till 55km/h on normal road already quite fast~ Even for packed bus. And I ain't talking about expressway little bro~~
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Seroiusly... What's the use of the board if in reality the actual ops require actual longer dwell time at each station... and I think SMB66X dun even know that the board if one goes to check at every station.. the overall travelling time from end to end does not even tally.. some 63, some 64...
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Originally posted by SMB66X:
You might not considered it, but I considered that as speeding, or chionging~ Most drivers hit up till 55km/h on normal road already quite fast~ Even for packed bus. And I ain't talking about expressway little bro~~
do you know that when you go uphill and downslope... they're alrdy supposed to slow down? -
Originally posted by sbst275:
Seroiusly…
What’s the use of the board if in reality the actual ops require actual longer dwell time at each station…
and I think SMB66X dun even know that the board if one goes to check at every station.. the overall travelling time from end to end does not even tally..
some 63, some 64…
Try it yourself before thinking some rubbish for goodness sake...
One doesn't even talk back when he himself don't even know how to use it and how it's that true~ That draws to make me wonder if you really take the MRT system when it's constructed so long ago..or perhaps are you a bus-sick, die die must take bus or else can't go out?
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*standby popcorns*
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Originally posted by sbst275:
do you know that when you go uphill and downslope... they're alrdy supposed to slow down?have you heard of average speed?
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first thing... You dun even understand why MRT needs a timetable... The only diff the MRT has against the bus is it does not have to face peak hour traffic volume... but it still has to face variation in demand load at diff time belts - that's where dwell time has to be tweaked for both safety and realistic dwell time for everyone... I think ppl wouldn't even know Chinese Garden's actual dwell time is only 1 sec... door open, buzzer immediately activated... Then the timetable has to take into consideration off peak to peak transition for two reasons, the incremental pax load along the way and to ensure ample spacing between the peak hour trains that's dispatched from the depot... Obviously most of your here dun even understand the very behind things onto getting things done.. If everything goes w/o timetable, when the peak hr train departs from the tracks, let's see how they're going to juggle the freq properly...
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Although facebook must be changed to SGForums
!800 can't even use DDs bah, tight turn at YIS St 71...
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Originally posted by dan474:
have you heard of average speed?
what has avg speed got to do w/ practical driving? when you go downslope, you would slow down... you reach semi expressway, you can travel faster... what on earth avg speed is? This is therotical kinematics? -
Originally posted by sbst275:
do you know that when you go uphill and downslope... they're alrdy supposed to slow down?U go uphill slow down? Sure anot? U take 36 when going up benjamin sheares bridge how to slow down? U 1 the bus roll down is it? I agree that u go down hill must slow down, if the bus is travelling too quickly, the bus will lose control, and if unlucky will roll off the slope.
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Originally posted by sbst275:
first thing…
You dun even understand why MRT needs a timetable…
The only diff the MRT has against the bus is it does not have to face peak hour traffic volume…
but it still has to face variation in demand load at diff time belts – that’s where dwell time has to be tweaked for both safety and realistic dwell time for everyone…
I think ppl wouldn’t even know Chinese Garden’s actual dwell time is only 1 sec… door open, buzzer immediately activated…
Then the timetable has to take into consideration off peak to peak transition for two reasons, the incremental pax load along the way and to ensure ample spacing between the peak hour trains that’s dispatched from the depot…
Obviously most of your here dun even understand the very behind things onto getting things done..
If everything goes w/o timetable, when the peak hr train departs from the tracks, let’s see how they’re going to juggle the freq properly…
They go w/o timetable is their problem, as long as I know I am getting from A to B within the time stated, plus the waiting time, I see no issue. At least all I know is that the train are much faster than buses on road.
If SMRT implemented a timetable, great then? Lesser waiting time~ Who don't like?
If they got timetable or w/o timetable, frequency up/down etc, still faster than taking bus home on road~
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Originally posted by SBS6305H:
U go uphill slow down? Sure anot? U take 36 when going up benjamin sheares bridge how to slow down? U 1 the bus roll down is it? I agree that u go down hill must slow down, if the bus is travelling too quickly, the bus will lose control, and if unlucky will roll off the slope.
bus not so bad.. but car, you've to ensure speed control... in case there's a stoppage, you're able to cut off engine power to stop... a lot of momentum from the engine power as you acclerate up... -
Originally posted by SMB66X:
They go w/o timetable is their problem, as long as I know I am getting from A to B within the time stated, plus the waiting time, I see no issue. At least all I know is that the train are much faster than buses on road.
If SMRT implemented a timetable, great then? Lesser waiting time~ Who don't like?
If they got timetable or w/o timetable, frequency up/down etc, still faster than taking bus home on road~
obviously you wun care, but the inefficiency is there for everyone to see.. erratic waiting time is one thing... you still dun get it... timetable is not abt being faster or what.. it's abt stability and order... -
Originally posted by sbst275:
obviously you wun care, but the inefficiency is there for everyone to see.. erratic waiting time is one thing... you still dun get it... timetable is not abt being faster or what.. it's abt stability and order...The waiting time for each train I've experienced is still acceptable(for NSEWL line)~ Of cause it depends on luck. But for peak hours, the NSL line at JE is sure fast. Went there a few time, both platform have a frequency lesser than 5mins.
Erractic waiting timing is yes, but they aren't mostly that longer than 5mins.(There's some time where the waiting time is 7mins, but not mostly).
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Chillax la.. argue here, argue there. =.=''
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Originally posted by SBS6305H:
U go uphill slow down? Sure anot? U take 36 when going up benjamin sheares bridge how to slow down? U 1 the bus roll down is it? I agree that u go down hill must slow down, if the bus is travelling too quickly, the bus will lose control, and if unlucky will roll off the slope.
Its in the driving manual.
Of course it depends on the situation, but the origins of this comes from the blinded crest of a hill.
And that is the reason why there are humps situated on uphill sections where such crests exist, such as those in NUS.
For manual gear vehicles if you want to approach uphill cautiously and reduce strain on the engine at the same time, you slow down and engage a lower gear also.
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Originally posted by SMB66X:
The waiting time for each train I've experienced is still acceptable(for NSEWL line)~ Of cause it depends on luck. But for peak hours, the NSL line at JE is sure fast. Went there a few time, both platform have a frequency lesser than 5mins.
Erractic waiting timing is yes, but they aren't mostly that longer than 5mins.(There's some time where the waiting time is 7mins, but not mostly).
I've ever waited 7 mins for EWL during the AM peak hrs... and it's towards the end pt... -
Originally posted by sbst275:
I've ever waited 7 mins for EWL during the AM peak hrs... and it's towards the end pt...Yes that occurs to me before(I never say it won't). But as far as I've experienced(when I usually travel to work during peak hours etc.), this type of situation hardly occurs.
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Originally posted by SBS2601D:
Its in the driving manual.
Of course it depends on the situation, but the origins of this comes from the blinded crest of a hill.
And that is the reason why there are humps situated on uphill sections where such crests exist, such as those in NUS.
For manual gear vehicles if you want to approach uphill cautiously and reduce strain on the engine at the same time, you slow down and engage a lower gear also.
But is auto gear so no problem!!! Especially Citaro floor go low gear auto very powerful!!! -
Originally posted by SMB228X:
But is auto gear so no problem!!! Especially Citaro floor go low gear auto very powerful!!!
auto gear.. the programming will still switch to lower gear... auto can also mean it'll auto adjust itself... -
Originally posted by sbst275:
obviously you wun care, but the inefficiency is there for everyone to see.. erratic waiting time is one thing... you still dun get it... timetable is not abt being faster or what.. it's abt stability and order...
Because of people like u SBS timetable long long BC drive slow slow waste other people time!!! Now MRT u want door open long long wait for who???? -
Originally posted by SMB228X:
Because of people like u SBS timetable long long BC drive slow slow waste other people time!!! Now MRT u want door open long long wait for who????
if there's a traffic jam right at the flyover upslope suddenly how? langa? Citaro powerful but too powerful until cannot brake in time? The MRT dwell time... think you've not even seen the 1 sec dwell time... -
The MRT dwell time... if got PIW board/ alight how? 1 sec dwell time to play? ask you go plan la.. 228X
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dun go around say ppl prefer slower bus... all these driving skills or rules are stipulated in the highway code...