Double Deckers for SMRT
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shorter nvm... cos 222, 291, 334 all ended up w/ 3x ADD decade later... things will continue to evolve, but the fundamental stays... HDB develops the New Town in that manner, it applies to all towns and regardless of era... just that from 13 storey, it becomes 25 storey, becomes 34 storey, then 40 storey... that's all...
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Originally posted by SBS8501U:
You don't need complicated logic to understand the importance of bendies
at where? Raffles Town Club bus stop? Bt Panjang Blk 183 bus stop? Marsiling Stn bus stop [taxi bay, pick up point, NSL Woodlands Extn planning legacy]? Opp Khatib Stn bus stop? -
But in practoce, if you put DDs on feeders, who the heck will move up? Most of them are just riding for a few stops... And it's very hard to change people's habits.
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Toa Payoh had 22 floor (1970s)
Woodlands have 12 floors (1998)
logic fail
sorry to say 901 will still pull in bendies and 858 will only have rigids
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Originally posted by dan474:
But in practoce, if you put DDs on feeders, who the heck will move up? Most of them are just riding for a few stops... And it's very hard to change people's habits.
old habit die hard
it could be even worse at least for the intial period
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obviously no one here has seen the major BPJ bus stops... Can't wait till school reopens then chaos happen big big in front of your eyes. I've lived in woodlands for my entire life... I can safely say the bendies need to go. Shall not elaborate because you won't believe until u guys see it yourself during peak hours. oh wait even if you do you'll still live in denial...
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Originally posted by TIB868X:
obviously no one here has seen the major BPJ bus stops... Can't wait till school reopens then chaos happen big big in front of your eyes. I've lived in woodlands for my entire life... I can safely say the bendies need to go. Shall not elaborate because you won't believe until u guys see it yourself during peak hours. oh wait even if you do you'll still live in denial...
The main chaos is also the bus stop shelter issue~ when there's raining day .___." 1 Small bus stop sure isn't gonna shelter the entire people.
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Originally posted by SBS8501U:
I don't see why we should blame the bendies for SMRT's inefficiency.
They are partially the main reasons of SMRTB's inefficiencies all these years, especially after my observation outside Woodlands depot in the midnight.
Too much time wasted on delays caused by the long queues of buses and parking crunch in the depot due to space limitations, poor BCs have not enough resting times. Probably if SMRTB stops using bendy buses soon, their scheduling will be improved and their frequencies will not be so erractic.
Originally posted by SMB66X:Firstly, by stopping slightly forward, it doesn't even affect anything. The bus still can turns out safely. Even if that isn't suggested, I don't even think Singapore transport have a good safety system please~ Don't even think about buses yet, nowadays car driver also anyhow. TP also not spotted on road~ So you think they drivers care? No please, not all drivers are so following the law always. However, I don't see any danger by stopping just abit infront, not as if the whole bus is directly stopping on the "\" part
Got cause problem to commuters meh? You can't improve up till the standard there, there always gotta be more than what the standard wants. Don't tell me you're just gonna get a pass for your exam, and after that being happy over it? Wow~~
You are not answering my question and seems to me that either you do not know how to drive or you are potential dangerous driver. You are simply just sidetracking what I have said. Blind spots and wide filtering lanes are crucial for large vehicles like buses.
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Originally posted by vicamour:
They are partially the main reasons of SMRTB's inefficiencies all these years, especially after my observation outside Woodlands depot in the midnight.
Too much time wasted on delays caused by the long queues of buses and parking crunch in the depot due to space limitations, poor BCs have not enough resting times. Probably if SMRTB stops using bendy buses soon, their scheduling will be improved and their frequencies will not be so erractic.
how will removing bendies will result in improved frequencies and improved scheduling may i ask...
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Originally posted by vicamour:
They are partially the main reasons of SMRTB's inefficiencies all these years, especially after my observation outside Woodlands depot in the midnight.
Too much time wasted on delays caused by the long queues of buses and parking crunch in the depot due to space limitations, poor BCs have not enough resting times. Probably if SMRTB stops using bendy buses soon, their scheduling will be improved and their frequencies will not be so erractic.
You are not answering my question and seems to me that either you do not know how to drive or you are potential dangerous driver. You are simply just sidetracking what I have said. Blind spots and wide filtering lanes are crucial for large vehicles like buses.
Woah..I don't know some bus fans can be soo mad about buses until they camp outside WLDEP in the MIDNIGHT somemore...zai zai~ I wonder why they never contact the police of suspicious person outside depot
Firstly, you got post any questions meh? All I see is you replying~
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By the way people comment abt all these planning related stuff, obviously your cannot think of how to standardise, how to be fair to each n every bus sv's needs... Worst thing talk of some places like Sg Kadut having concrete factories, say also either dun want to know or dun wish to know but still want to stubbornly insist Sat not much lorry traffic... The only day CIQ have less lorry traffic is on Sunday... Not surprisingly, market stalls most dun open on Monday since there's no shipment of chicken, vegetables on Sunday... S911's case... Still cannot believe not a single 911 appears even w/ 2x 856 disparch.. still say is ok... eh.. I thought 911's freq is 3 - 5 mins??? Ghost buses? Woodlands N1 quite a decent chunk are 4 storey walk up flats, N8 side abt 70+ blocks of flats... like this cannot cope? is it schedule got problem or is it something else? Woah, then Sv 903, 912 how ar??? bigger catchment area... Still want to laugh... like things dun want to take it and think, and really think abt it... always think your know a lot of things... ask ppl to google abt econs, still say I know la.. keep quiet... I know many here are still in sec sch, poly.. There's still a lot of things to learn, dun think you're are very smart... Still have not even learn how to drive yet... worst... If SMB66X still insist wanting to know who I am... well I can tell u then.. I was the one who feedback-ed to SBST to operate downroutes for 179A in the evening from South Spine, abt possibility of pushing out more ADDs on 502 on weekends... People have contacts around, dun need to write each n everything over feedback, planning related issues over here... for next thing, kids later go backstab or want to get more info etc...
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Jialat sial
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isn't 179A a special short working trip?
might as well spam DD on 179 and take out the 179A
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Originally posted by SMB145B:
isn't 179A a special short working trip?
might as well spam DD on 179 and take out the 179A
look at which mrt station 179A skips. best still, take 179A when NTU school holidays are over and you will know why its there
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Originally posted by TIB868X:
look at which mrt station 179A skips then talk. best still, take 179A when NTU school holidays are over and you will know why its there
it skips pioneer station ...
hmm i guess most people boards 179 at Pioneer station
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Originally posted by SMB145B:
unless it skips pioneer station ...
it skips pioneer station, cutting down much travelling time compared to when the bus has to stop at pioneer station, which will have a clusterbomb of NTU students waiting for 179
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Originally posted by TIB868X:
it skips pioneer station, cutting down much travelling time compared to when the bus has to stop at pioneer station, which will have a clusterbomb of NTU students waiting for 179
but that only applies to morning (in bound) and evening (out bound)
and only service on weekdays
199 - NIE
179 - the rest ...
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But frankly 179A does help with the freq and bus flow...
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During AM peak hrs, Pioneer Stn is a traffic jam blackspot.. even more jammed than Boon Lay and other roads inside Jurong West Extn... As for evening peak, w/ 241, 255 being so frequent and bus stop being so small.. no way so many buses can flood up Pioneer... Anyway, Pioneer Stn isn't the correct station to load up NTU students... only 1 pair of up and down riding escalator at the MRT Stn platform.. for high usage? Should see 179A's queue during the AM peak on some days... can stretch all the way out of JP2 the glass door beside Old Chang Kee...
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seriously, SBST can't deploy so many 179... arbo 241, 255, 257 will also get affected.. flooding of buses... and seriously, 179 isn't meant for MRT crowd to take.. those ppl along Pioneer Rd Nth often noticed hardly have boarding chance...
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and seriously in the evening.. if you're at 27251 bus stop, chances are it's very difficult to get onboard 179 at all... It's only luckily w/ 179A downroute that the crowd can be cleared...
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Originally posted by SMB145B:
but that only applies to morning (in bound) and evening (out bound)
and only service on weekdays
199 - NIE
179 - the rest ...
it helps alot, again, witness it for youself then you will truly understand.
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Originally posted by sbst275:
During AM peak hrs, Pioneer Stn is a traffic jam blackspot.. even more jammed than Boon Lay and other roads inside Jurong West Extn…
As for evening peak, w/ 241, 255 being so frequent and bus stop being so small.. no way so many buses can flood up Pioneer…
Anyway, Pioneer Stn isn’t the correct station to load up NTU students… only 1 pair of up and down riding escalator at the MRT Stn platform.. for high usage?
Should see 179A’s queue during the AM peak on some days… can stretch all the way out of JP2 the glass door beside Old Chang Kee…
erm there is only a up riding escalator and the stairs beside it
no shelter
179A should skip JW st 63 and proceed to Boon Lay Way and continue
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wa kaoz... SMB145B is really Jason Lim is it... Of course in SG, it's peak hours that's giving everyone headache... 179 or 199 has lesser problems during the off peak hrs..
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Originally posted by SMB145B:
erm there is only a up riding escalator and the stairs beside it
no shelter
179A should skip JW st 63 and proceed to Boon Lay Way and continue
a pair... The downriding is at the 'rear'... Boon Lay Way??? eh... lol...