SBS Transit King Long single deck demonstrator
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Originally posted by wsy1234:
What wrong with china made bus? there many on the road now.
I am rather skeptical about their safety levels of China made vehicles especially after the China CNG bus explosion years back in Singapore and watching the EUROCAP tests on China cars on their safety standards. Somehow their vehicles are far from good safety and comfort levels.
I still prefer Japanese buses for private operators. And I don't have a good impression of the China bus demonstrators from SBST and SMRT.
Originally posted by Gus.chong:Think logically. If the Citaros are meant to replace the MK3s, they should be purchased back in 2008 and introduced into service in 2009, but they only purchase it in 2010 and introduce it into service in 2011. Look at the previous trend as well. Most of the MK3s were replaced by MK4s and K230UBs, so SBS Transit seems to have a special reason to buy the Citaros.
Late purchase doesn't mean it doesn't represent the replacements. There are more likely reasons for the delay, like extension of lifespan for certain buses, awaiting for the legistration rule of purchasing LF buses only before deciding acquiring the fleet, in this case, SBST chooses Citaros.I suggest if you don't know anything, stop spreading nonsense.
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The thing is govt was also slowly extending the lifespan of buses but on condition they've to be refurb...
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Originally posted by vicamour:
I am rather skeptical about their safety levels of China made vehicles especially after the China CNG bus explosion years back in Singapore and watching the EUROCAP tests on China cars on their safety standards. Somehow their vehicles are far from good safety and comfort levels.
I still prefer Japanese buses for private operators. And I don't have a good impression of the China bus demonstrators from SBST and SMRT.
Late purchase doesn't mean it doesn't represent the replacements. There are more likely reasons for the delay, like extension of lifespan for certain buses, awaiting for the legistration rule of purchasing LF buses only before deciding acquiring the fleet, in this case, SBST chooses Citaros.I suggest if you don't know anything, stop spreading nonsense.
I agree China buses are DANGEROUS AND UNCOMFORTABLE, SBS must buy new Euro VI Citaros not shitty crap like King long or heng tong!!!!!!!
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According to King Long UK (http://www.kinglonguk.com/pdf/brochure/kl6121fullglossy.pdf), the XMQ6121G is using a 280HP Euro IV Cummins engine....
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Originally posted by Superbus:
I just realised that this new King Long is similar, if not the same, with the one currently in operation with RapidKL. Not a very comfortable bus to ride on.
those RapidKL King Longs are using Gemilang body, right? Exactly the same as our KUBs?
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Originally posted by Gus.chong:
Think logically. If the Citaros are meant to replace the MK3s, they should be purchased back in 2008 and introduced into service in 2009, but they only purchase it in 2010 and introduce it into service in 2011. Look at the previous trend as well. Most of the MK3s were replaced by MK4s and K230UBs, so SBS Transit seems to have a special reason to buy the Citaros.
then the KUB should be purchased in 2005 right to replace all the merc/MK2/scania etc... if you dunno then just SHUT UP instead.. dun act till you know everything.....
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Originally posted by Gus.chong:
It is still not registered. And it should be SBS4688R not SBS4688S.
another case of "dunno want to act smart"..... still can correct the rego somemore....
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more photos...
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Originally posted by lemon1974:
more photos...
The plug doors seems like SMC Transit type...
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Originally posted by lemon1974:
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HA HA HA get stuck bad start for the new bus, is the driver know that the bus is too long to enter the station? by the way SBST have another 2 China made buses runing in jurong east area in use for service 334. both of them is semi electric bus like toyoda prius car. I think is the same brand King Longs. I remember somebody here not long ago said King longs bus is a good bus??????
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Originally posted by lemon1974:
another case of "dunno want to act smart"..... still can correct the rego somemore....
I was indirectly referring to 'even if the rego is registered'.
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Originally posted by lemon1974:
then the KUB should be purchased in 2005 right to replace all the merc/MK2/scania etc... if you dunno then just SHUT UP instead.. dun act till you know everything.....
Source number 2:
Compare the fleet of services with the MK2s/N113CRBs/O405s and their fleet now (1), as well as the fleet of services with MK3s and their fleet now (2), to see whether there were K230UBs in the fleet for (1), or Citaros in the fleet for (2).
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Originally posted by Gus.chong:
Source number 2:
Compare the fleet of services with the MK2s/N113CRBs/O405s and their fleet now (1), as well as the fleet of services with MK3s and their fleet now (2), to see whether there were K230UBs in the fleet for (1), or Citaros in the fleet for (2).
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Originally posted by no display name:
those RapidKL King Longs are using Gemilang body, right? Exactly the same as our KUBs?
Yes. The XMQ6121Gs of RapidKL are fitted with Gemilang Coachwork bodies that are similar to our K230UBs. The chassis are probably the first that were not fitted with King Long bodies.
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Originally posted by Bus Stopping:
It might not be so, as this demonstrator comes with ZF suspension and axles. As far as i know those in RapidKL are not.
It is not the suspension or axles that I'm concerned with. It's the engines that are loud from Day One and how it shook the whole bus much worse than the KUBs.
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Originally posted by Superbus:
It is not the suspension or axles that I'm concerned with. It's the engines that are loud from Day One and how it shook the whole bus much worse than the KUBs.
I see, i have taken the taiwanese 6121g with uk made cummins engines and they are pretty ok most of the time except when the driver drags the gears (due to manual transmission). No idea about the RapidKL ones, but hope that this demo unit has a uk engine ala the yutong.
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...a recent trip to kl, joyride ard city centre, manage to board a rapidkl 6121 (gemilang bodied), the sound of the engine quite loud, vibration quite strong, when the bus accelerates, can hear the engine roar vry loudly....though aft many rides over there, i prefered their MAN 18.280HOCLNL, vry silent engine & awesome pick up. hopefully dis sbst one gt 'silencer' LOL ...nt sure even if an engine silencer exists xp
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Awww here we go again..Not another china piece of shit!! Didnt expect at all that this would really happen again..Hope this bus ends up like the sbst OC demo.
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Originally posted by Merczrox:
Awww here we go again..Not another china piece of shit!! Didnt expect at all that this would really happen again..Hope this bus ends up like the sbst OC demo.
So we must email to SBS and tell them to get more world class bus like Euro VI Citaros not some stupid Chinese shit!!!!
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if this model can comply Euro V standard, cost less including its lift cycle cost, is reliable and durable, provides fairly comfortable travel, saves fuel, spare parts easy to obtain even in future, then SBST should go for it. How about any China double-deckers too?
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Originally posted by SBS3688Y:
if this model can comply Euro V standard, cost less including its lift cycle cost, is reliable and durable, provides fairly comfortable travel, saves fuel, spare parts easy to obtain even in future, then SBST should go for it. How about any China double-deckers too?
Cheap doesn't goes with reliable, durable, comfortable, fuel saving.
If it really is true, that SBS strikes lottery.
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how long is the bus again?
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Originally posted by Y_Shun:
how long is the bus again?
11.95m.
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Originally posted by Y_Shun:
how long is the bus again?
Slightly shorter than K230UB, Sunlong Hybird and B7RLE. Same length as a citaro.
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Originally posted by SBS3688Y:
if this model can comply Euro V standard, cost less including its lift cycle cost, is reliable and durable, provides fairly comfortable travel, saves fuel, spare parts easy to obtain even in future, then SBST should go for it. How about any China double-deckers too?
Problem is they are not. Cheap doesn't mean they are safe, realiable and durable. I don't find them comfortable and saving fuel, in this case, using Cummis engine.
China bus manufacturers don't focus a lot on double deckers, but more on bendy buses. Probably it is more applicable to SMRTB.