LTA's Bus Service Enhancement Programme (BSEP)
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Originally posted by SMB66X:
Because 1/2 or even 3/4 of the depots aren't DD friendly yet? And would you spend your $$ to rebuild another or wait for LTA to complete Wenya depot, and then start rebuilding?
Rubbish.
If SMRT wanted DDs, they would have started at once.
You dont wait till the shit is all in your anus unless its LS case before you start taking your ET stick and dig desperately, do you?
Obviously SMRT sees no hope in DDs because they see no hope in bus ops.
I already pointed out that SMRT is very disadvantaged compared to SBST in cost management.
That is a huge disincentive for the 3-star I am sure. He would probably be eating his words now when he finds out this fact.
Early on, he said SMRT is commited to bus ops.
Now he says SMRT might leave in 2016.
Do you understand how these jigsaw pieces add up? He has given up hope!
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Originally posted by sgbuses:
I suspect the effects of switching to distance fare have caused a noticable impact on bus revenue (and profitability).
Leasing is a more viable option if LTA wants competition via bus tendering. They can start off with the BSEP fleet on hand once the free 10 years is up.
If LTA does take this step, SBS Transit and SMRT Buses would have "helped" them a lot in this regard by standardising their new purchases (i.e. by limiting to the current 3 bus models).
That seems likely enough.
A quick calculation reveals that lifetime revenue of bus < lifetime cost for both PTOs.
If LTA doesn't step in soon, bus ops will be in big trouble.
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ah 2601... 3 star dunno how manage things la.. say "Cost + Plus Margin" method would help SMRT... eating his own words.. govt wouldn't want to use this scheme to pay cost inefficient operators... who in right mind would pay higher cost + margin when it's taxpayers + fare collection? give up la... It's just using SAF style of management to manage buses... not enough bus? add more bus lor... btw.. 3625D revived or going to be revived liao...
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actually one problem is the bus routing system... they bind themselves too much on reliant on the MRT...
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Originally posted by SBS2601D:
Rubbish.
If SMRT wanted DDs, they would have started at once.
You dont wait till the shit is all in your anus unless its LS case before you start taking your ET stick and dig desperately, do you?
Obviously SMRT sees no hope in DDs because they see no hope in bus ops.
I already pointed out that SMRT is very disadvantaged compared to SBST in cost management.
That is a huge disincentive for the 3-star I am sure. He would probably be eating his words now when he finds out this fact.
Early on, he said SMRT is commited to bus ops.
Now he says SMRT might leave in 2016.
Do you understand how these jigsaw pieces add up? He has given up hope!
Got money at that time mah? Plus, at start, I think they already have too many buses(with less depot space).
In my opinion, I would rather wait for at least a 5th depot to be ready. By then, constructions can start for some buses going to Wenya, leaving either WLDEP/AMDEP(or even KJDEP) to Wenya control IF POSSIBLE(base on route, most likely KJ/WLDEP).
And after the completion of the DD-friendly depot, the 2nd depot can go for change. At least it won't cock up the svc..
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Originally posted by SBS2656X:
SBST, what r u doing156 i not surprised... am peak i ever waited waited for a 76mins bus. and the next was 32 mins....
53 can be in the list during weekends :)
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Originally posted by SBS2601D:
My point is that the current and past bus system is unsustainable for both PTOs.
It is for this reason that LTA, if you notice, is gradually taking control of many aspects of bus operations, starting with route planning, and now depot construction.
BSEP is very likely to be an experiment, as much as a practical short-term solution, by LTA to gain an even greater foothold in bus ops and further leverage on PTOs, to twist their arms, so to speak.
You know what I think will be the next step?
LTA buys buses, to be leased to PTOs.
Like the recent case with Transport for London, where they purchased 600 DDs to be leased on tender basis to bus operators.
Mark my words!
LTA has been dropping a lot of hints on this and have made no secret about studying competitive tendering as in the Scandinavian countries and London.
http://sgforums.com/forums/1279/topics/467046
LTA should nationalise the entire bus fleet and rebrand them as TransitLink. Route Groups to be bundled under contract areas and offered for tender like what Transperth has done. SBS, SMB & WT to be mere contractors like Swan Transit, Path Transit & Veolia Transdev.
Bendies retained but kept mostly for express routes. DDs to take over most city trunk routes.
If TransitLink can score a 50-year exclusive deal with Scania even better.
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Starting this Sunday, 18 August, residents living in Woodlands will have a new feeder bus service – Service 904.This loop service will enhance connectivity for commuters travelling between the Woodlands Regional Centre to Woodlands Drive 73 and Woodlands Crescent. This is the 13th bus service rolled out under the Bus Service Enhancement Programme. ‪#‎BSEP‬ Residents will have greater access to amenities in the area such as Woodlands Galaxy CC, Admiralty wet market and schools such as Greenwood Primary, Riverside Primary and Admiralty Secondary School as well as shopping malls such as Causeway Point and 888 Plaza. More: http://bit.ly/14nmidM
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some bus services like 163 have ett changed on 19/8, Monday.
BSEP fleet add?
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Originally posted by SBST163:
some bus services like 163 have ett changed on 19/8, Monday.
BSEP fleet add?
fleet add by SBST themselves... btw, did Sv145 gotten BSEP fleet add wef yesterday?
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SMB3066B
(WLDEP SP)
On 966 today. Not sure if it replacing 3043S during PM peak jz nw as 3066B reached earlier than the usual 3043S slot
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Originally posted by TIB 585L:
SMB3066B
(WLDEP SP)
On 966 today. Not sure if it replacing 3043S during PM peak jz nw as 3066B reached earlier than the usual 3043S slot
SMB3061P on 963, with SMB3022C ans SMB3023A... Maybe BSEP add?
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Originally posted by TIB1234T:
SMB3061P on 963, with SMB3022C ans SMB3023A... Maybe BSEP add?
Maybe it is just replacing a non-BSEP slot. Have to reserve some buses for 904 though
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Originally posted by TIB 585L:
Maybe it is just replacing a non-BSEP slot. Have to reserve some buses for 904 though
Few 904 buses should be out now doing runs for the engine, like SMB3066B...
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Originally posted by TIB1234T:
Few 904 buses should be out now doing runs for the engine, like SMB3066B...
Yeah may catch more of them tomorrow onwards
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Originally posted by iveco:
http://sgforums.com/forums/1279/topics/467046
LTA should nationalise the entire bus fleet and rebrand them as TransitLink. Route Groups to be bundled under contract areas and offered for tender like what Transperth has done. SBS, SMB & WT to be mere contractors like Swan Transit, Path Transit & Veolia Transdev.
Bendies retained but kept mostly for express routes. DDs to take over most city trunk routes.
If TransitLink can score a 50-year exclusive deal with Scania even better.
If they had one operator for every area, it would be like the problem before the SBS-era. Then gahman will 'renationalise/nationalise more' the bus company then skally SBST agan. Then later they say to compete open a new PTC. This is just repeating history in my opinion.
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Originally posted by OMSI123:
If they had one operator for every area, it would be like the problem before the SBS-era. Then gahman will 'renationalise/nationalise more' the bus company then skally SBST agan. Then later they say to compete open a new PTC. This is just repeating history in my opinion.
1 operator for every area, but contract period for 10 years max before going up for competitive tender.And I repeat, buses to carry only LTA/Transitlink livery, not those of individual companies/contractors, with the transport ministry having ultimate ownership of the bus fleet.
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For high demand routes,74,179,190,196 use two operators like what HK did for X harbour routes...
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Saw freq for 852, 855 is 13-15 mins during peak tot all trunk to be 10mins?! how come still pass QoS?!??
Sometimes, it is really a waste of resources, 966 comes 4-6 mins during peak and most of the return from M Parade is empty...
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Originally posted by Acx1688:
Saw freq for 852, 855 is 13-15 mins during peak tot all trunk to be 10mins?! how come still pass QoS?!??
Sometimes, it is really a waste of resources, 966 comes 4-6 mins during peak and most of the return from M Parade is empty...
ACxIsn't QoS 10 mins for feeder, 15 mins for trunk??
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Originally posted by Acx1688:
Saw freq for 852, 855 is 13-15 mins during peak tot all trunk to be 10mins?! how come still pass QoS?!??
Sometimes, it is really a waste of resources, 966 comes 4-6 mins during peak and most of the return from M Parade is empty...
ACx
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
Isn't QoS 10 mins for feeder, 15 mins for trunk??
I m nt sure about QoS for trunks, feeders...
I only know there is an inefficient allocation of resources nowadays... 70's fleet has been bumped up till 4 -6 mins peak twds Shenton Way.
The 2nd bus is half full, 3rd 1/4 full...
854 is also bumped up to 4 - 5mins freq during peak, comfortable definitely but i would rather every service fleet be equally bumped up so that EVERY COMMUTER can enjoy rather than a few selected services... -
all wrong! BSEP QoS for peak hrs Trunk 80th%: 1 hr peak within peak max headways at 10 mins for peak direction. 90th%: 1 hr peak within peak max headways at 12 mins for peak direction. 100th%: Max 20 mins headways. All Svs to comply with 20 mins max headways for non peak direction by 2014. Feeder 95th%: 10 mins max headways for entire peak hr belt. 100th%: 15 mins max headways for entire peak hr belt.
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Originally posted by Acx1688:
For high demand routes,74,179,190,196 use two operators like what HK did for X harbour routes...
Or do it like Transperth's circle route. Also, add in route 61 to the mix. I'd love to see the DDs make a omeback on this one.
74 can be BBDEP(SBS)/AMDEP(SMB)
179 can be SLBP(SBS)/WYDEP(SMB) - future
190 can be KJDEP(SMB)/ARBP(SBS)
196 can be KJDEP (SMB)/BNDEP(SBS)
61 can be KJDEP(SMB)/BNDEP(SBS)
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Originally posted by Acx1688:
For high demand routes,74,179,190,196 use two operators like what HK did for X harbour routes...
Singapore too small for dual-operation...
Unless you ask companies like let's say NTU buses for svc 179 to take over minority of buses during peak...