SMRT's MAN A24 bendy bus
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Originally posted by OMSI123:
What about KJDEP?
Cfm have one.
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No Mk 1 bendies inside Amdep doesn't mean they can't get A24s.Cross transfer la,A few of the Habits can go to both Kjdep and Wldep.The A24s suppose to trial on WAB svc suchs as 171,172,187,700,811,851,857,859,969,980
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Maybe 10 to each depot, since we SMRT has 3 depots? But I think priority goes to WLDEP...
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Originally posted by TIB 501 D:
Maybe 10 to each depot, since we SMRT has 3 depots? But I think priority goes to WLDEP...
Maybe those services with box bendies will get A24s as replacements... And we can see services like 184 becoming a WAB service...
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Originally posted by dan474:
Maybe those services with box bendies will get A24s as replacements... And we can see services like 184 becoming a WAB service...
That's what I think so too, but there are only like 30 of them... But on the other hand, maybe it's also meant for WAB services with non-WAB bendies, like 187,851 or 969 for example.
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Or maybe it could be for 171, 857, 859 and 980. As in those services which MIGHT have a dire need for more bendies during weekdays or something like that...
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Originally posted by TIB 501 D:
Or maybe it could be for 171, 857, 859 and 980. As in those services which MIGHT have a dire need for more bendies during weekdays or something like that...
171 doesn't need bendies anyway, maybe most of them goes to those WAB services which needs high capacity WABs, and the rest of them goes to making a service WAB...
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I think apart from the ones mentioned, 190 also needs 2 more bendy slots. The peak loadings for this service just cannot be managed by MANs. Just the other day at CCK morning peak, every single bendy was getting crowded to the door, and the MANs would still leave half the pax in the queue.
I always wonder how it must be for people around Bukit Panjang to enter the bus. They might as well take LRT, come to CCK and then take 190.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
I think apart from the ones mentioned, 190 also needs 2 more bendy slots. The peak loadings for this service just cannot be managed by MANs. Just the other day at CCK morning peak, every single bendy was getting crowded to the door, and the MANs would still leave half the pax in the queue.
I always wonder how it must be for people around Bukit Panjang to enter the bus. They might as well take LRT, come to CCK and then take 190.
people in BPJ normally take 700 or 971E...
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DTL will soon kill off the load for 190, 700 and 960 alr...
Plus 960 kind of like duplicates 65%+ of DTL or so...
Using trains to kill off bus services...
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Originally posted by TIB 501 D:
DTL will soon kill off the load for 190, 700 and 960 alr...
Plus 960 kind of like duplicates 65%+ of DTL or so...
Using trains to kill off bus services...
I agree DTL will completely kill 700 and 960 - not 190 that much!!! I think 190 will still have a good number of pax from CCK.But it is still 2 years right - the situation on 190 needs to be fixed till then. I know 190 already has very high capacity but what to do if there is still need for more!!!
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
I agree DTL will completely kill 700 and 960 - not 190 that much!!! I think 190 will still have a good number of pax from CCK.But it is still 2 years right - the situation on 190 needs to be fixed till then. I know 190 already has very high capacity but what to do if there is still need for more!!!
190 = 179
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IMO, DTL won't kill 190 or 700... Each of them serves their own purpose. 190 is to serve CCK area, 700 is to serve Pending/Petir area, and 971E serves the inner areas of BPJ.
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Originally posted by dan474:
IMO, DTL won't kill 190 or 700... Each of them serves their own purpose. 190 is to serve CCK area, 700 is to serve Pending/Petir area, and 971E serves the inner areas of BPJ.
I am quite sure it won't kill the loading on 190. 971E is anyway MRT parallel so that's okay.For 700, I think it will definitely kill the loading. Look at the routing. Majority people will switch, very few who have point to point will not. All said and done DTL will affect the loading on many services including 67, 171, 174, 700, 960 along Bukit Timah stretch.
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Originally posted by TIB 501 D:
190 = 179
If 190 = 179, it is not treated like 179 that has 03 min frequency with only high capacity bus fleet. That's where SBST wins!! It has additional resources to spare, SMRT has to use its bendies very carefully as it has many high loading services in its belt but does not have the high capacity buses it needs. -
Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
I am quite sure it won't kill the loading on 190. 971E is anyway MRT parallel so that's okay.For 700, I think it will definitely kill the loading. Look at the routing. Majority people will switch, very few who have point to point will not. All said and done DTL will affect the loading on many services including 67, 171, 174, 700, 960 along Bukit Timah stretch.
But you still need to take the LRT to BPJ then transfer to DTL (and there is no paid link between BPLRT and DTL), which means higher fares. Even with a paid link, some people would still prefer to take 700 because the distance travelled might be shorter.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
If 190 = 179, it is not treated like 179 that has 03 min frequency with only high capacity bus fleet. That's where SBST wins!! It has additional resources to spare, SMRT has to use its bendies very carefully as it has many high loading services in its belt but does not have the high capacity buses it needs.That's because they can't bring in more bendies (only 1-to-1 replacement), and their current depot infrastructure does not support DDs (except for WLBP).
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Originally posted by dan474:
That's because they can't bring in more bendies (only 1-to-1 replacement), and their current depot infrastructure does not support DDs (except for WLBP).
Kranji Depot? -
Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
Kranji Depot?According my BC friend who asked depot staff, cannot. I think the maintenance bay height clearance is too low.
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Originally posted by dan474:
Maybe those services with box bendies will get A24s as replacements... And we can see services like 184 becoming a WAB service...
It's more of them going to those that need WAB/already WAB but requires higher capacity buses first.
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Originally posted by dan474:
But you still need to take the LRT to BPJ then transfer to DTL (and there is no paid link between BPLRT and DTL), which means higher fares. Even with a paid link, some people would still prefer to take 700 because the distance travelled might be shorter.
MRT in such cases is still faster to get to Bugis, Suntec or MBFC. how come you're saying there's no paid link bet DTL & BPLRT??? Do you know that even if you can link the source, you'll be held to account for how come you're saying this... or just because LTA saying nothing means it's not linked? -
and econs theory would say the cost would be imposed to the party that would incur less.. So if LTA makes it impossible to use bendy bus, then llst.. KJDEP or whatever depot would have to re-do to take in ADD.... it's a commercial decision made by Tibs to be funny or special onto insisting w/ bendy buses.. so now they'll pay for the outcome of LTA's planning...
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Originally posted by sbst275:
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econs theory would say the cost would be imposed to the party that would incur less.. So if LTA makes it impossible to use bendy bus, then llst.. KJDEP or whatever depot would have to re-do to take in ADD….
it’s a commercial decision made by Tibs to be funny or special onto insisting w/ bendy buses.. so now they’ll pay for the outcome of LTA’s planning…
Bendy bus needed for busy service DD cannot pass~ Bendy faster than DD, use DD longer travel time less attractive to take bus, lose more money~ -
Originally posted by SMB355L:
Bendy bus needed for busy service DD cannot pass~ Bendy faster than DD, use DD longer travel time less attractive to take bus, lose more money~
How much faster? How many buses can properly form up at sawtooth berth int during peak hrs when the design wasn't meant for bendy bus in the first place? And end up SMRT SL anything just reverse to 'be faster'... Do your know by doing this, in reality they're blind cos they can't see anything at the rear at all.. Dun tell me what CCTV nonsense, in reality CCTV has false impression over the 'distance'... the actual and what's seen on the CCTV... Then how come SMRT keep on losing 11x more losses than SBST? Anyway... SMB228X no driving license to drive... know nuts abt driving safely... -
Oh ya... NSL Newton incident.. if they'd use 12m buses, dun need to make 1 round via Braddell MRT Stn... use the bus int make 1 round will do... same goes to the 15 Dec incident... Now I wonder what happens if there's MRT breakdown and turnaround pt is Jurong East... Creepy bendy buses has no bus stops to use... LOL