Loading levels on buses
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2601 agrees with smrtsbs's assessments.
74 and 147 no need DD.
These DD should go to 113 as fleet add making frequency 5 min.
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Originally posted by SBS2601D:
2601 agrees with smrtsbs's assessments.
74 and 147 no need DD.
These DD should go to 113 as fleet add making frequency 5 min.
Me agree also. 5 min for 113? Should make it 1 min.
There are really two guys who really dunno the joke that smrtsbs have created on 74 n 147. I
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Someone obviously ignorant of svc 27 load patterns.The good freq for 27 is there for a reason..74 need to convert 5 SDs slot to DDs.Dunno where he go and observed all the buses?
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Originally posted by lemon1974:
There are really two guys who really dunno the joke that smrtsbs have created on 74 n 147. I
Add one more in.
There are tons of planners and analysts in LTA/SBST/SMRTB and LTA got the whole loading data from their system for them to analyse, no need to go down to observe a few trips every day and then conclude this, conclude that. And then some disagree this some disagree that and then flame wars. Might as well join LTA if you question these planners. You can analyse all trips data, all day long until song song.
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Oh that was what I pointed out a number of times already.
But its ok la....after all, cheng hu also wants bottom-up feedback mechanism.
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Originally posted by SBS2601D:
Oh that was what I pointed out a number of times already.
But its ok la....after all, cheng hu also wants bottom-up feedback mechanism.
hah...bottom-up feedback mechanism... depends on who is the one feedback and who is the one handling the feedback!
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74 needs more DDs...
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14/Feb/13
At YCK Terminal:
There are 09 buses on 72B, each one is called when the queue fills up and takes between 55-60 passengers on each bus.
5087T -- 07.49
5082G -- 07.52
2790R -- 07.55
2802R -- 07.59
5052T -- 08.03
5190C -- 08.05
8748A -- 08.07
1965K -- 08.10
2808A -- 08.14
5087T -- 08.17 repeats after 09 buses, 28 minutes!
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The off-service route for 72B is:
ITE HQ -- CTE -- AMK Ave 3 -- AMK Ave 8
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14/Feb/13:
Observation on 72/72 A
3231G -- 07.57 -- 79 pax
7424R -- 08.01 -- 57 pax
3197Y -- 08.07 -- 51 pax
7429C -- 08.13 -- 66 pax operated as 72A
9620C -- 08.15 -- 17 pax
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Originally posted by smrtbsbs:
hah...bottom-up feedback mechanism... depends on who is the one feedback and who is the one handling the feedback!
C'mon, be nice.
I was trying to give a positive spin to things.
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From Jan 2013 onwards.
Capacity Increase by deploying DDs for SDs:
7, 13, 62 (+2), 72 (+3, not very sure), 79, 94, 154
Capacity Decrease by substituting DDs with SDs:
111, 157
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Today at Yishun Int, SMB7S on 811 (West loop) bus filled at 8.04pm.
Next bus, O405 came at 8.11pm. Also full, leaving some pax behind.
Basket..
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Was speaking to a BC on svc 72. He mentioned that there are too many buses on svc 72 during evening peak at Tampines, that a bus leaves the interchange every 4-5 minutes. He said that earlier until Dec you could see long queues, and even more than 70-80 pax filling the bus but now it is not the case.
This was on my way to HG Int from YCK. So I don't know what the real picture at Tampines is, but want to go and see it, coz I myself remember how long the queue for svc 72 used to be during evening peak.
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He is correct.
72's big problem is that its evening peak from Tampines is actually below 5 min frequency.
But evening off-peak after 7pm is atrocious when the crowds are actually still streaming in.
And the most infuriating part is when SD comes after waiting for 20 min.
And worse when the bus actually CRAWLS.
I still vote 72 as one of the worst examples of inefficiencies. As has been the case for many years already.
It takes 45 minutes from Tamp Int to HG Swimming Complex.
By contrast, taking MRT to Pasir Ris and then switching to 88 actually takes only 35 minutes.
Food for thought.
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Originally posted by SBS2601D:
He is correct.
72's big problem is that its evening peak from Tampines is actually below 5 min frequency.
But evening off-peak after 7pm is atrocious when the crowds are actually still streaming in.
And the most infuriating part is when SD comes after waiting for 20 min.
And worse when the bus actually CRAWLS.
I still vote 72 as one of the worst examples of inefficiencies. As has been the case for many years already.
It takes 45 minutes from Tamp Int to HG Swimming Complex.
By contrast, taking MRT to Pasir Ris and then switching to 88 actually takes only 35 minutes.
Food for thought.
To add to your point, the BC did tell me that earlier they had to drive very slowly on Tampines Road to match the timing, but now he said the run time has been adjusted. Also, earlier there would be a lot of loading issue on Tampines Ave 6 and BC had to ask people to move in to get people in, causing delays. With improved frequency, not an issue anymore.
Is the travel time still 45 mins or is this from your past year's experience?
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Today Citaro on 291 load cannot make it sia.Kubs are way better.Dunno what the hell SBST buy so much for what?
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Today Citaro on 291 load cannot make it sia.Kubs are way better.Dunno what the hell SBST buy so much for what?
Should have gone mass B7RLE instead-_- But they are useful on the low demand svcs though...
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Think more for the sake of Low floor
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Was observing 112 loading just now at KOVAN STATION,fuuuhhhh,very crowded,cannot tahan MAN!!!
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Originally posted by SBS 6238T:
Was observing 112 loading just now at KOVAN STATION,fuuuhhhh,very crowded,cannot tahan MAN!!!
Time for SBST to get Citaro C2 G for busy feeder like 112 and 113. -
Originally posted by carbikebus:
Today Citaro on 291 load cannot make it sia.Kubs are way better.Dunno what the hell SBST buy so much for what?
Citaro best quality buses so SBST buy many. SBST regret buy too many KUB should sell some secondhand overseas. -
Originally posted by carbikebus:
Today Citaro on 291 load cannot make it sia.Kubs are way better.Dunno what the hell SBST buy so much for what?
Citaro good for services like 116, 123. But it is getting used for high loading services 87, 88, 168 and I just don't understand. Can't take more than 60 pax and for cramming 70 pax, BC has to really shout passengers to move to the rear. -
Taken today, 8.41pm at Yishun Int.
Mercedes-Benz OC500LE on 811 (west loop), many pax can't board and have to wait for the next bus. Forgot what's the rego. This service should get a fleet add, seeing this almost everyday. Frequency is good, just that it's crowded.. -
Originally posted by SMB355L:
Time for SBST to get Citaro C2 G for busy feeder like 112 and 113.Time to throw you into the scrapyard
!!!!!