Redeployments (Part 17)
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Originally posted by lemon1974:
SBS6647X SBS6648T SBS6649R
(AMDEP 72/72B)
*** perm sticker spottedtotal there should be 9 or 10 Sv72B buses. today spotted below buses.
5052 5082 5087 6647 6648 6649 1965 2802 8779.
Ok ! So r this citaros for fleet added or replacing those perm kubs from 72 ?
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Originally posted by Lsk138:
Ok ! So r this citaros for fleet added or replacing those perm kubs from 72 ?
the perm KUBs 5052 5082 5087 are still there... remember before the ITE holidays, there are always some SP Kub doing sv72B (no fixed buses).. so guess these should be the perm fleet. i think Sv72B fleet is as below
5052 5082 5087 2790 2802 2808 1965 6647 6648 6649.
spotted 6650 in YCK ter as well but as off service. not sure whether it is perm sv72 or not.. maybe one of the MK4 might be out to Sv70 (to replace 2625?)..
sv72 really got massive fleet upgrade.. so many buses added....10 buses just for Sv72B, plus so many DDs for Sv72...
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Originally posted by lemon1974:
the perm KUBs 5052 5082 5087 are still there... remember before the ITE holidays, there are always some SP Kub doing sv72B (no fixed buses).. so guess these should be the perm fleet. i think Sv72B fleet is as below
5052 5082 5087 2790 2802 2808 1965 6647 6648 6649.
spotted 6650 in YCK ter as well but as off service. not sure whether it is perm sv72 or not.. maybe one of the MK4 might be out to Sv70 (to replace 2625?)..
sv72 really got massive fleet upgrade.. so many buses added....10 buses just for Sv72B, plus so many DDs for Sv72...
wow.. then sv 72 72B really got a lot of massive fleet upgrade after the AMK ITE opened ! Tks for ur info.
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Originally posted by Lsk138:
wow.. then sv 72 72B really got a lot of massive fleet upgrade after the AMK ITE opened ! Tks for ur info.
Gone are the days when you see a really crowded 72 because of the superb frequency, every 4-5 minutes. Especially the peak loading is now around 40-60 pax per bus in the Hougang - Tampines leg considering that a bus is not late. If one bus is late, then you will see the first bus getting a good 70-80 pax, while the bus that follows in 2 mins will have just 20-30 pax.
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Originally posted by lemon1974:
the perm KUBs 5052 5082 5087 are still there... remember before the ITE holidays, there are always some SP Kub doing sv72B (no fixed buses).. so guess these should be the perm fleet. i think Sv72B fleet is as below
5052 5082 5087 2790 2802 2808 1965 6647 6648 6649.
spotted 6650 in YCK ter as well but as off service. not sure whether it is perm sv72 or not.. maybe one of the MK4 might be out to Sv70 (to replace 2625?)..
sv72 really got massive fleet upgrade.. so many buses added....10 buses just for Sv72B, plus so many DDs for Sv72...
Do all the 10 buses do downroute in the afternoon? I think only 5 of the 10 do downroute from my observation. Guess the others crossover to 72?With these 10 buses perm on 72B, means morning peak svc72 should have full fleet DD. I have spotted a MK4 recently on 72 though.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
Gone are the days when you see a really crowded 72 because of the superb frequency, every 4-5 minutes. Especially the peak loading is now around 40-60 pax per bus in the Hougang - Tampines leg considering that a bus is not late. If one bus is late, then you will see the first bus getting a good 70-80 pax, while the bus that follows in 2 mins will have just 20-30 pax.
yup i hv notice dat too ! but on the other hand i think sv 88 also still need a few more buses to this svc .
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
Do all the 10 buses do downroute in the afternoon? I think only 5 of the 10 do downroute from my observation. Guess the others crossover to 72?With these 10 buses perm on 72B, means morning peak svc72 should have full fleet DD. I have spotted a MK4 recently on 72 though.
think not all do the downroute... some do some downroute + full route...
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Originally posted by lemon1974:
Edited Sgwiki for those BSEP N/A buses to Spare.. it is weird to put them as N/A? what is N/A? not available? not applicable? these are just spare buses for the time being..
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Originally posted by lemon1974:
Edited Sgwiki for those BSEP N/A buses to Spare.. it is weird to put them as N/A? what is N/A? not available? not applicable? these are just spare buses for the time being..
Apparently userid SBS3107H is consistent of editing it back to N/A which looks weird. The bus isn't not available or something.
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Originally posted by lemon1974:
Edited Sgwiki for those BSEP N/A buses to Spare.. it is weird to put them as N/A? what is N/A? not available? not applicable? these are just spare buses for the time being..
Anyway I was the one who suggested the BSEP buses that have no fixed perms yet to be listed as N/A first. Because the other time there were a whole lot of BSEP buses that were deployed out on the roads for quite a while but w/o perms. And yet on Wiki someone kept reverting their status back to only displaying the depots they belonged. Confusing because it was hard to decipher which BSEP bus hadn't came out yet, since those w/o perms but alr on the roads & those still new-new undeployed in the depots list the same perm status on Wiki.
And i did recall some bus fans here (can't rmb if it's one of the more senior ones among us or some young fans) saying that what 'BSEP buses are perm on some service, so can't classify as SP'. Confusing much only?
So can't blame '3107H' fully. He was only editing after what I suggested.But yeah, the depots nowadays use the BSEP buses w/o perms as Spares. Up to you then dude, as long as can tell which bus is out on the roads alr, and which isn't. It was only a suggestion to tidy up the Wiki on my part in the 1st place.
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Originally posted by lemon1974:
the perm KUBs 5052 5082 5087 are still there... remember before the ITE holidays, there are always some SP Kub doing sv72B (no fixed buses).. so guess these should be the perm fleet. i think Sv72B fleet is as below
5052 5082 5087 2790 2802 2808 1965 6647 6648 6649.
spotted 6650 in YCK ter as well but as off service. not sure whether it is perm sv72 or not.. maybe one of the MK4 might be out to Sv70 (to replace 2625?)..
sv72 really got massive fleet upgrade.. so many buses added....10 buses just for Sv72B, plus so many DDs for Sv72...
SBS 6650K today on sv 72 now bus @ outside HOUGANG INT bus stop toward TAMPINES INT. Still no perm stix as of now .
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Originally posted by Lsk138:
SBS 6650K today on sv 72 now bus @ outside HOUGANG INT bus stop toward TAMPINES INT. Still no perm stix as of now .
yes. i saw it at YCK at 8 plus as well.. SBS6651H also on Sv72B today but also no perm sticker...
btw, there should be 13 duties for Sv72B as stated on the timekeeper paper. not sure why there are so many duties.....
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Originally posted by SBS 9631X:
Anyway I was the one who suggested the BSEP buses that have no fixed perms yet to be listed as N/A first. Because the other time there were a whole lot of BSEP buses that were deployed out on the roads for quite a while but w/o perms. And yet on Wiki someone kept reverting their status back to only displaying the depots they belonged. Confusing because it was hard to decipher which BSEP bus hadn't came out yet, since those w/o perms but alr on the roads & those still new-new undeployed in the depots list the same perm status on Wiki.
And i did recall some bus fans here (can't rmb if it's one of the more senior ones among us or some young fans) saying that what 'BSEP buses are perm on some service, so can't classify as SP'. Confusing much only?
So can't blame '3107H' fully. He was only editing after what I suggested.But yeah, the depots nowadays use the BSEP buses w/o perms as Spares. Up to you then dude, as long as can tell which bus is out on the roads alr, and which isn't. It was only a suggestion to tidy up the Wiki on my part in the 1st place.
so what is N/A? not available? not applicable? can u explain? if the buses have not come out at all, then just as "AMDEP" or "BNDEP" will do..
now that guy keep on insisting that you have confirm that these buses are N/A and edited Wiki again to N/A?
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TIB774H
[WL SP
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Originally posted by TIB1234T:
TIB774H
[WL SP AM 961].Huh? Wich slot of AM 961? Replacing any bus?
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Originally posted by TIB 585L:
Huh? Wich slot of AM 961? Replacing any bus?
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Originally posted by SMB189A:
I guess 932TReally? I shall check on that today coz i be taking 961 later.
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Originally posted by SMB189A:
I guess 932TMay or may not be, cos its 774H is AP slot...
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SBS7589Z
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Originally posted by lemon1974:
yes. i saw it at YCK at 8 plus as well.. SBS6651H also on Sv72B today but also no perm sticker...
btw, there should be 13 duties for Sv72B as stated on the timekeeper paper. not sure why there are so many duties.....
IMO, SBST is deploying a lot of buses on 72B just because it has many spare buses. 72B started with 3 perm buses, then within weeks the number went to 5,7,8 and now +10. My observation showed that earlier they would make sure a 72B bus gets packed with a good 60 students before calling the next one in.Now the ground staff deploys buses just when there are around 30-40 students in the queue. So I wouldn't say that the number of students has gone up much, it is just the number of students each bus takes has gone down due to enhanced frequency.
Not to add some kids who like to take DDs wait for 72/72A instead even if there is a special queue for 72B.
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Originally posted by lemon1974:
so what is N/A? not available? not applicable? can u explain? if the buses have not come out at all, then just as "AMDEP" or "BNDEP" will do..
now that guy keep on insisting that you have confirm that these buses are N/A and edited Wiki again to N/A?
I suggested N/A in the context of 'Not Applicable' back then uh. 'Not Applicable' because no perm services yet for those BSEP buses, then this will help to calm those peeps that keep preaching that 'BSEP buses are definitely perm somewhere'. Because there's no perm svc applicable to those BSEP buses yet. It was only a suggestion on my part to tidy up the wik lah.
I definitely didn't mean 'Not Available'.
Yeah I know that if those BSEP buses haven't come out yet, just list their depots. But back then weeks ago, I edited those BSEP buses that are out on the roads alr but No perm svc yet as 'AM SP', 'HG SP' etc. But he reverted it back to only listing the depots as the perm status, even for those that alr came out.
I think he was recalling the 'BSEP bus are perm somewhere once it come out' thingy posted by some of us previously. Then it became mightily confusing, so I suggested splitting the perm statuses to distinguish better which are out on roads and which aren't.
Actually. Very simple. We just need to come to consensus whether that view that 'BSEP buses are definitely perm somewhere once it come out' still holds not. If it holds but not definitely, then point settled.
Back then when BSEP buses first came out, they really went straight to perm somewhere on the first few days rmb? Then the backlog of BSEP services came + they deploy the BSEP buses faster than each round of BSEP improvements, became now that they used those undeployed BSEP buses as SPs instead. Then that view no longer held absolute ground.
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TIB939A
(AMDEP/YIBP 853)
(Non-User Lay-Up Status Till 26 Apr 2014)TIB1018B
(AMDEP TRG) (Non-User Lay-Up Status Till 26 Apr 2014)Both buses are laid up with effect from tomorrow 27 April 2013.
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Originally posted by TIB1234T:
SBS7589Z
[AM 168 BN 168].
Info from sgwiki...Sv 7, 21, 45, 168 are involved in the same round uh. Sv 45 & 168 each 1 duty x-ferred only. Sv 7 & 21 are the major movers.
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May I repeat again, 3336M is NOT perm BN 12. Stated this like at least thrice alr. 3319M is the only BSEP bus perm BN 12.
3336M is just deployed like a SP bus to replace any random DD MIA from Sv 12 every day. It jumps from slot to slot daily. For instance, 3336M is on 3319M's BSEP timings today. But 3319M was instead replacing 9437R's timings, and in turn 9437R was replacing 9354X's timings.
Only possibility for 3336M to be perm BN 12 is O/S bus? Because the e-tt timings they have now are still the same from months ago after they added 3319M. 08 Apr's e-tt revision was for the removal of ONP at PSR. I still don't think it's an O/S bus.
It's just coincidental that it hasn't went to cameo on the other B9TL-laden services in BN/CG that much compared to Sv 12..
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Originally posted by TIB1234T:
May or may not be, cos its 774H is AP slot...
I spotted 774H just now driven by AM AP driver
Buses on 961 AM side confirmed spotted
501D,500G,481C,932T,540R,753T,
Bus missing: 431Y,528C,765J.
765J is out coz its a split bus
932T replaced 431Y just now
Only 528C is left in question coz never spotted it just now