Miscellaneous Topics on Buses
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Originally posted by SBS3004X:
51 at Hougang when all other 5x services are at Bishan
Yes,But sometimes we have to look for other same numbering routes along the way too..51 met with 55,58 & 59 along Jln Eunos/Eunos Link.
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Originally posted by SBS3004X:
51 at Hougang when all other 5x services are at Bishan
In the first place, the first half of 5x series are meant for Eunos in the 70s and 80s (including 51, which subsequently merged with 54 that plied from Hougang to Eunos, to start from Hougang instead)...subsequently in the late 80s and 90s, the second half of 5x series are Bishan services. It eventually brought nearly the whole series for Bishan.
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is lta getting more double decker for smrt? i see fb 858 get double decker but with no new order how suffice so many new serv,
will 106 get weg b9tl after tt transfer or still continue e500? if weg then smrt get more 14 dd from 106 to deploy other serv.
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5034E on 858 is to replace the gap when 332C broke down at airport. 5034E never travelled to airport at all, it was on 966 at 3.30pm then downroute to 858 at 6pm and then do 966 at 7.30pm.
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Originally posted by proudtobeme:
is lta getting more double decker for smrt? i see fb 858 get double decker but with no new order how suffice so many new serv,
will 106 get weg b9tl after tt transfer or still continue e500? if weg then smrt get more 14 dd from 106 to deploy other serv.
Sooner or later SMRT can cut a few DDs on 190 and 960, although it won't really help much...
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Originally posted by TIB 585L:
5034E on 858 is to replace the gap when 332C broke down at airport. 5034E never travelled to airport at all, it was on 966 at 3.30pm then downroute to 858 at 6pm and then do 966 at 7.30pm.
So it's unlikely to see DD downroutes on 858 again? -
Originally posted by array88:
So it's unlikely to see DD downroutes on 858 again?Maybe, if bendy can last time, DD also can but maybe once in a blue moon when 858 is having a long traffic jam or multiple bus broke down on 858
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Originally posted by TIB 585L:
Maybe, if bendy can last time, DD also can but maybe once in a blue moon when 858 is having a long traffic jam or multiple bus broke down on 858
Multiple bus breakdown? Will be a bad thing to happen for 858 haha!!
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(Carried over from this thread, in response to jurongresident's query)
The general checksum formula for bus plates is known by most (if not all) bus enthusiasts, and it's already listed on Wikipedia.
In short:
- (1) Take the two letters of the plate letters (or the last two, if there are three). Convert to numbers based on A=1, B=2, ... Z=26. Or alternatively from S onwards, S=0, T=1, ... Z=7.
- (2) Multiply the first number by 9 and the second number by 4. Sum the products.
- (3) For the four-digit number (add in filler zeroes in front if necessary, so "1", "325" and "89" become 0001, 0325, 0089), multiply the digits by 5, 4, 3 and 2 respectively. Sum the products.
- (4) Now add the two sums together, divide by 19, and take the remainder.
- (5) Check the remainder against the remainder table. This is the checksum, and will determine the last letter.
Remainder table: (this is cyclical in modulo 19, i.e., 19=0, 20=1, 21=2, 38=0, etc.)
- 0 - A
- 1 - Z
- 2 - Y
- 3 - X
- (W, V skipped)
- 4 - U
- 5 - T
- 6 - S
- 7 - R
- (Q skipped)
- 8 - P
- (O, N skipped)
- 9 - M
- 10 - L
- 11 - K
- 12 - J
- (I skipped)
- 13 - H
- 14 - G
- (F skipped)
- 15 - E
- 16 - D
- 17 - C
- 18 - B
(Alternatively: Reverse Remainder list. Subtract the earlier remainder from 19 to get this list.)
- 0/19 - A
- 1 - B
- 2 - C
- 3 - D
- 4 - E
- (F skipped)
- 5 - G
- 6 - H
- (I skipped)
- 7 - J
- 8 - K
- 9 - L
- 10 - M
- (N, O skipped)
- 11 - P
- (Q skipped)
- 12 - R
- 13 - S
- 14 - T
- 15 - U
- (V, W skipped)
- 16 - X
- 17 - Y
- 18 - Z
But for convenience sake, it will be easier if we just consider the 5-4-3-2 rule, and start from SG 0000 for example.
"S" and "G" correspond to "0" and "7" in modulo 19 respectively. Their sum of products is 28, which equals 9 in modulo 19. We shall disregard the 4-digit number first. SG 0000 would give a checksum of M.
Likewise for SBS (B=2, S=0, sum of products = 18); SMB (M=13, B=2, sum of products = 125 = 11 (mod 19)); TIB (I=9, B=2, sum of products = 89 = 13 (mod 19)).
Using the remainder table, we have SG 0000 M, SBS 0000 B, SMB 0000 K, TIB 0000 H.
Digitwise,
- For ever y addition of 1, increase the remainder notch by 2.
- For every addition of 10, increase the remainder notch by 3.
- For every addition of 100, increase the remainder notch by 4.
- For every addition of 1000, increase the remainder notch by 5.
- For multiple increments, sum the individual products, then divide by 19 to get a new remainder (i.e. modulo). Increase the remainder notch by this new remainder.
- If you use the reverse remainder list, decrease by the abovementioned numbers instead.
- Carrying over the digit (e.g, from 39 to 40, from 199 to 200) is not applicable here. Of course you can resort to shortcuts, but that's beside my point now.
Examples:
SG 1083: Increase remainder notch by 5, 0, 24, 6; total increase =35, modulo increase =16, equivalent to -3. Hence M <-- P <-- R <-- S.
SG 5025: Increase remainder notch by 25, 0, 6, 10; total increase =41, modulo increase =3. Hence M --> L --> K --> J.
SG 5016: Increase remainder notch by 25, 0, 3, 12; total increase =40, modulo increase =2. Hence M --> L --> K.
SBS 1: Increase remainder notch by 0, 0, 0, 2; total increase =2, modulo increase =2. Hence B --> A --> Z.
SBS 9889: Increase remainder notch by 45, 32, 24, 18; total increase =119, modulo increase =5. Hence B --> A --> Z --> Y --> X --> U.
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http://news.asiaone.com/news/singapore/bus-driver-badly-beaten-passenger-after-missing-stop
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Path Lights is on SGforums. Path Lights is mindful of what he writes. Path Lights has personal integrity. Path Lights is smart. Be like Path Lights. :)
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Originally posted by Path Lights:
Path Lights is on SGforums.
Path Lights is mindful of what he writes.
Path Lights has personal integrity.
Path Lights is smart. Be like Path Lights.
If what you're going to say next is analogus to the contents in your first three posts, then I have no comment.
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Originally posted by Path Lights:
Path Lights is on SGforums.
Path Lights is mindful of what he writes.
Path Lights has personal integrity.
Path Lights is smart. Be like Path Lights.
Barney is a dinosaur with no imagination. One day he eats char kway teow and dies of constipation.
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Tampines Logistics Park is complete. Can expect loading on 72 to soar between HG and Tampines MRT to Logistics Park, unless it has many shuttle buses to cater employees.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
Tampines Logistics Park is complete. Can expect loading on 72 to soar between HG and Tampines MRT to Logistics Park, unless it has many shuttle buses to cater employees.
Where is the location of the Logistics Park? I think can intro a service there but then not from Tampines... Tampines too crowded alr... Pasir Ris seems visible...
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Originally posted by SBS 9256 X:
Where is the location of the Logistics Park? I think can intro a service there but then not from Tampines... Tampines too crowded alr... Pasir Ris seems visible...
It's along Tampines Rd, between the junctions with KPE and Buangkok East Dr. Nearer to Hougang than Tampines.
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Originally posted by AJQZC:
It's along Tampines Rd, between the junctions with KPE and Buangkok East Dr. Nearer to Hougang than Tampines.
Ooh.. Then like the would be the New Sengkang Extension Interchange or the future Buangkok Interchange/Woodleigh (Or Bidadari) Interchange...
Hougang Central already very packed up... Unless they want it to be from Hougang Street 21, then might as well convert it back to a bus interchange...
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Originally posted by SBS 9256 X:
Ooh.. Then like the would be the New Sengkang Extension Interchange or the future Buangkok Interchange/Woodleigh (Or Bidadari) Interchange...
Hougang Central already very packed up... Unless they want it to be from Hougang Street 21, then might as well convert it back to a bus interchange...
72 is good enough. At 05 minutes DD frequency can easily cater to both Tampines and Hougang bound demand.
I also have a feeling Logistics Park might have its own shuttle.
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what's with the attempt to quickly fill up this thread? why are all this here, and not at the other threads that are more appropriate?
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http://www.lots.org.uk/
Under the News section (Sunday 31 January)..1) ...LT665 has been shipped to Singapore to act as a promotional bus for Wrights at a forthcoming event and also to support Go-Ahead’s recent grant of several franchised bus routes...
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The last Scania K230UB buses were delivered in year 2010. The last Mercedes-Benz OC500LE buses were delivered in year 2009. The last earlier-version Volvo B9TL buses were delivered in year 2007. However, these bus models would not be used in the GCM. The lifespan of a bus is around seventeen years. The above-mentioned bus models would only retire from year 2022 to year 2027. In the later part of the transition to GCM, there may be a distinction of bus models between GCM bus services and Non-GCM bus services, as the above-mentioned bus models have to go somewhere. As the majority of bus services would transit to GCM only after August 2021, I guess all earlier-version Volvo B9TL buses and most buses of the other related models should be able to run until it completes its lifespan. 2027 could be the year all bus services have transited to the GCM.
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Originally posted by SG1965Y:
The last Scania K230UB buses were delivered in year 2010. The last Mercedes-Benz OC500LE buses were delivered in year 2009. The last earlier-version Volvo B9TL buses were delivered in year 2007.
However, these bus models would not be used in the GCM. The lifespan of a bus is around seventeen years. The above-mentioned bus models would only retire from year 2022 to year 2027.
In the later part of the transition to GCM, there may be a distinction of bus models between GCM bus services and Non-GCM bus services, as the above-mentioned bus models have to go somewhere.
As the majority of bus services would transit to GCM only after August 2021, I guess all earlier-version Volvo B9TL buses and most buses of the other related models should be able to run until it completes its lifespan.
2027 could be the year all bus services have transited to the GCM.
I am sorry. I just remember that buses can be sold. So, even if the lifespan is not reached, SBS and TIBS can sell away the buses that are not in use for the GCM. :)
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Originally posted by SMB315C:
http://www.lots.org.uk/
Under the News section (Sunday 31 January)..1) ...LT665 has been shipped to Singapore to act as a promotional bus for Wrights at a forthcoming event and also to support Go-Ahead’s recent grant of several franchised bus routes...
Hybrid Routemaster?
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Originally posted by AJQZC:
(Carried over from this thread, in response to jurongresident's query)
The general checksum formula for bus plates is known by most (if not all) bus enthusiasts, and it's already listed on Wikipedia.
In short:
- (1) Take the two letters of the plate letters (or the last two, if there are three). Convert to numbers based on A=1, B=2, ... Z=26. Or alternatively from S onwards, S=0, T=1, ... Z=7.
- (2) Multiply the first number by 9 and the second number by 4.
Sum the products.
- (3) For the four-digit number (add in filler zeroes in front if necessary, so "1", "325" and "89" become 0001, 0325, 0089), multiply the digits by 5, 4, 3 and 2 respectively. Sum the products.
- (4) Now add the two sums together, divide by 19, and take the remainder.
- (5) Check the remainder against the remainder table. This is
the checksum, and will determine the last letter.
Remainder table: (this is cyclical in modulo 19, i.e., 19=0, 20=1, 21=2, 38=0, etc.)
- 0 - A
- 1 - Z
- 2 - Y
- 3 - X
- (W, V skipped)
- 4 - U
- 5 - T
- 6 - S
- 7 - R
- (Q skipped)
- 8 - P
- (O, N skipped)
- 9 - M
- 10 - L
- 11 - K
- 12 - J
- (I skipped)
- 13 - H
- 14 - G
- (F skipped)
- 15 - E
- 16 - D
- 17 - C
- 18 - B
(Alternatively: Reverse Remainder list. Subtract the earlier remainder from 19 to get this list.)
- 0/19 - A
- 1 - B
- 2 - C
- 3 - D
- 4 - E
- (F skipped)
- 5 - G
- 6 - H
- (I skipped)
- 7 - J
- 8 - K
- 9 - L
- 10 - M
- (N, O skipped)
- 11 - P
- (Q skipped)
- 12 - R
- 13 - S
- 14 - T
- 15 - U
- (V, W skipped)
- 16 - X
- 17 - Y
- 18 - Z
But for convenience sake, it will be easier if we just consider the 5-4-3-2 rule, and start from SG 0000 for example.
"S" and "G" correspond to "0" and "7" in modulo 19 respectively. Their sum of products is 28, which equals 9 in modulo 19. We shall disregard the 4-digit number first. SG 0000 would give a checksum of M.
Likewise for SBS (B=2, S=0, sum of products = 18); SMB (M=13, B=2, sum of products = 125 = 11 (mod 19)); TIB (I=9, B=2, sum of products = 89 = 13 (mod 19)).
Using the remainder table, we have SG 0000 M, SBS 0000 B, SMB 0000 K, TIB 0000 H.
Digitwise,
- For ever y addition of 1, increase the remainder notch by 2.
- For every addition of 10, increase the remainder notch by 3.
- For every addition of 100, increase the remainder notch by 4.
- For every addition of 1000, increase the remainder notch by 5.
- For multiple increments, sum the individual products, then divide by 19 to get a new remainder (i.e. modulo). Increase the remainder notch by this new remainder.
- If you use the reverse remainder list, decrease by the abovementioned numbers instead.
- Carrying over the digit (e.g, from 39 to 40, from 199 to 200) is not applicable here. Of course you can resort to shortcuts, but that's beside my point now.
Examples:
SG 1083: Increase remainder notch by 5, 0, 24, 6; total increase =35, modulo increase =16, equivalent to -3. Hence M <-- P <-- R <-- S.
SG 5025: Increase remainder notch by 25, 0, 6, 10; total increase =41, modulo increase =3. Hence M --> L --> K --> J.
SG 5016: Increase remainder notch by 25, 0, 3, 12; total increase =40, modulo increase =2. Hence M --> L --> K.
SBS 1: Increase remainder notch by 0, 0, 0, 2; total increase =2, modulo increase =2. Hence B --> A --> Z.
SBS 9889: Increase remainder notch by 45, 32, 24, 18; total increase =119, modulo increase =5. Hence B --> A --> Z --> Y --> X --> U.
SG = SBS-2000.
SBS3001D > SG1001D
SBS7300P > SG5300P
SBS3701S > SG1701S
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Originally posted by SMB315C:
http://www.lots.org.uk/
Under the News section (Sunday 31 January)..1) ...LT665 has been shipped to Singapore to act as a promotional bus for Wrights at a forthcoming event and also to support Go-Ahead’s recent grant of several franchised bus routes...
The bus is in Loyang Depot.