SMRT Buses purchases MAN A22 buses (Part 2)
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Originally posted by SMB145B:
one green A22 in liannex
for KJDEP or BUDEP?
We'll only know when it is on revenue service..
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Originally posted by SMB145B:
one green A22 in liannex
for KJDEP or BUDEP?
Saw 2 green A22 @ liannex today along with at least 2 Habit bendies
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The A22 and A95 actually use the ZF EcoLife 6 AP 1700 B transmission..not the 2000 B.
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
The A22 and A95 actually use the ZF EcoLife 6 AP 1700 B transmission..not the 2000 B.Only A24 use ZF EcoLife 6 AP 2000 B transmission.Take note.
No, the A22 and A95 uses the ZF 6AP2000B. It is ok for an engine to be mated to a transmission with a higher torque rating (but not the other way round). The SMRT A24s are Voiths, although A24s can be fitted with the ZF Ecolife transmission.
See the specs:
A22: http://rvcs-prodweb.dot.gov.au/AppDoc/07Oct2015200106.HTML
A95: http://rvcs-prodweb.dot.gov.au/AppDoc/10Dec2015200355.HTML
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Originally posted by SBS351M:
No, the A22 and A95 uses the ZF 6AP2000B. It is ok for an engine to be mated to a transmission with a higher torque rating (but not the other way round). The SMRT A24s are Voiths, although A24s can be fitted with the ZF Ecolife transmission.
See the specs:
A22: http://rvcs-prodweb.dot.gov.au/AppDoc/07Oct2015200106.HTML
A95: http://rvcs-prodweb.dot.gov.au/AppDoc/10Dec2015200355.HTML
How about the A24's Voith? On sgwiki it is listed as D864.5, even though the LUH-33 engine produces 1800 Nm of torque, while for SMB388S, the engine only produces 1600 Nm of torque? During the bus carnival I did chat with one of the MAN personnel, he told me that the engines are the same just that the gearbox tuning is different for SMB388S.
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Originally posted by SBS9C:
How about the A24's Voith? On sgwiki it is listed as D864.5, even though the LUH-33 engine produces 1800 Nm of torque, while for SMB388S, the engine only produces 1600 Nm of torque? During the bus carnival I did chat with one of the MAN personnel, he told me that the engines are the same just that the gearbox tuning is different for SMB388S.
Voith D864.5 for all units.
http://rvcs-prodweb.dot.gov.au/AppDoc/16Jan2014200111.HTML
http://www.man.com.au/wp-content/uploads/download-manager-files/A24.pdf
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Originally posted by SBS351M:
No, the A22 and A95 uses the ZF 6AP2000B. It is ok for an engine to be mated to a transmission with a higher torque rating (but not the other way round). The SMRT A24s are Voiths, although A24s can be fitted with the ZF Ecolife transmission.
See the specs:
A22: http://rvcs-prodweb.dot.gov.au/AppDoc/07Oct2015200106.HTML
A95: http://rvcs-prodweb.dot.gov.au/AppDoc/10Dec2015200355.HTML
Because ive checked with SMRT TO he say only use the 1700B..
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Originally posted by SBS9C:
How about the A24's Voith? On sgwiki it is listed as D864.5, even though the LUH-33 engine produces 1800 Nm of torque, while for SMB388S, the engine only produces 1600 Nm of torque? During the bus carnival I did chat with one of the MAN personnel, he told me that the engines are the same just that the gearbox tuning is different for SMB388S.
Sgwiki stated 388S is 360hp/1600nm modification from 320hp while the PB is 360hp/1800nm just because of gearbox tuning?
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Because ive checked with SMRT TO he say only use the 1700B..
Better to check the bus itself in this case than to rely on hearsay, I think.
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Originally posted by SBS351M:
Better to check the bus itself in this case than to rely on hearsay, I think.
The gearbox itself only put ZF..Are you working for SMRT technical officer?
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
The gearbox itself only put ZF..Are you working for SMRT technical officer?
I don't work for SMRT or anything related to buses.
The gearbox wouldn't just put ZF, there would be a plate on the gearbox stating the model, serial number and essential specs.
For eg.
Further to that, the Australian data sheets for the A22 and A95 are professional and legally required documents. The fact that the only A22 currently in Australia is an ex-SMRT bus, plus the fact that there is no other gearbox other than the 6 AP 2000B and the Voith option stated in those sheets, clearly shows that the SMRT A22s use the 6AP2000B gearbox. You may like to ask your friend to look at the manufacturer's plate of the gearbox, I suppose it is not too difficult for him to do that?
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Registered on 4 May 2016
SG1710R
SG1711M
SG1712K
SG1713H
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
The gearbox itself only put ZF..Are you working for SMRT technical officer?
What about the A24? If it is ZF EcoLife as you have claimed, then it should be able to go beyond the 4th gear on the driver's dashboard as indicated.
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Originally posted by TIB987K:
Registered on 4 May 2016
SG1710R
SG1711M
SG1712K
SG1713H
SG1714Eall these green livery i suppose
TT or SMRT ?
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Originally posted by azharjj:
all these green livery i suppose
TT or SMRT ?
SMRT.
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Originally posted by sgbuses:
What about the A24? If it is ZF EcoLife as you have claimed, then it should be able to go beyond the 4th gear on the driver's dashboard as indicated.
A24 is Voith and im not that dimwit to believe all the TO said either but for the A22/95 yes im in doubt at first,Could be wrong or right.But seriously i didnt believe him after certain questions i ask about SMRT Buses..Funny thing this guy used to work for SBST also..What a crap!
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Originally posted by azharjj:
all these green livery i suppose
TT or SMRT ?
1710/1711 in smrt livery. The other 3 green livery.
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SG1710R, SG1711M >> KJ SP (on 979 and 188 respectively)
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Just wondering, are the green MAN A22 buses destined for Bulim or Loyang?
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好
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4 June 2016 | 1840 | WPDEP
6 green livery A22 buses (all regoless) -
Originally posted by gekpohboy:
Just wondering, are the green MAN A22 buses destined for Bulim or Loyang?
For now its either for TT or SMRT.
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All 332 Batch 3 A22 more or less are accounted for.. Now awaiting for registration (SG1715C - SG1737P)..
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More to come..