Redeployments (Part 18)
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Originally posted by TIB 585L:
Strangely i have never seen SMB189A on TRG. I have seen 190U often but not 189A
Not sure, but sgwiki already edited...
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Originally posted by SMB66X:
Got demand still, 3pm plus with a full house Strider(fully seated)
dat y i posted out this last Sunday over here : svc 161 now every wkend & PH hv half or more DDs slot to SD buses and this SD buses running were always full of pax like ytd saw 1 SD 161 coming out from WL int. the whole bus was already full of pax even seen pax standing on bus maybe they can put 3 or 4 SD buses is ok but not too much leh yes ! maybe in the early morning time hv not dat high demand only bah if im not wrong .
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Originally posted by SMB66X:
Got demand still, 3pm plus with a full house Strider(fully seated)
And at WRI long queue till the escalator there. -
Personally I dont see much problem with 161 despite taking it 2-3 times a week to and fro from HG to WDL weekdays and weekends.
Mostly DDs, certainly not half SD at all.
I think I had only a couple of times with SDs and it wasnt pleasant to stand throughout the express part.
Quite frankly I also dont get all the complaints about the VO3X fleet. C'mon.........there is DD, what else do you want??
And the frequency part certainly not as good as 168, but it is good enough. 10-15 min off-peak frequency is quite alright and 161 is considered very reliable and the driving is more or less predictable also (neither too slow nor too fast).
Stop making molehill out of nothing......the 161 today is really so much better than its 9-bus fleet, 4 DD era from the mid-2000s.
If want to complain, please do so for services like 151 (unreliable and awfully slow nowadays), 74 (Citaro for weekdays omg), 171 (crowded and unreliable), 854 (dunno why suddenly frequency become cui at night now), 72 (still crawling down Tamp Rd).
List is non-exhaustive!
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Originally posted by SBS2601D:
Personally I dont see much problem with 161 despite taking it 2-3 times a week to and fro from HG to WDL weekdays and weekends.
Mostly DDs, certainly not half SD at all.
I think I had only a couple of times with SDs and it wasnt pleasant to stand throughout the express part.
Quite frankly I also dont get all the complaints about the VO3X fleet. C'mon.........there is DD, what else do you want??
And the frequency part certainly not as good as 168, but it is good enough. 10-15 min off-peak frequency is quite alright and 161 is considered very reliable and the driving is more or less predictable also (neither too slow nor too fast).
Stop making molehill out of nothing......the 161 today is really so much better than its 9-bus fleet, 4 DD era from the mid-2000s.
If want to complain, please do so for services like 151 (unreliable and awfully slow nowadays), 74 (Citaro for weekdays omg), 171 (crowded and unreliable), 854 (dunno why suddenly frequency become cui at night now), 72 (still crawling down Tamp Rd).
List is non-exhaustive!
bro ! wkdays ok mostly all DDs running go and check sunday & PH again how many SD running on this svc .
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Not a lot!
I was a typical office worker which obviously excluded me from travelling around on weekdays. (If I take 161, it is to paktor, tektor, jalan-jalan, kia-kia etc etc)
And I take 161 at night to go home from WDL. The weekend day trips are obviously towards WDL from where I take other buses to reach the northern areas. Therefore my trip profile should identify me with the majority of 161 weekend users.
Nothing to complain about 161 at all, except the occasional SD.....but definitely not half the fleet is SD on weekends.
Edit: I also forget to add that I take 161 from HG Int to my cosy abode many more times weekdays and weekends. You can take it from me that the 161 fleet is really nothing to complain about.
Regards,
161 regular commuter.
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this r last sunday deployment of SD ON 161
- SBS 964U ON 161
- SBS 1981M ON 161
- SBS 1995Z ON 161
- SBS 2659M ON 161
- SBS 2656X ON 161
- SBS 2666S ON 161
- + All the 3 PERM WEGs also not operating
- Sundays: 11AM-11PM (11 buses) 6 SD out of 11 buses !
- u said : except the occasional SD.....but definitely not half the fleet is SD on weekends.
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Then what can I say?
Suay lor.
Or I heng.
But generally speaking I don't have complaints at my end despite taking 161 so frequently.
And I doubt I am biased towards 161 (nobody gives me $$$ to advertise for this service).
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Originally posted by Lsk138:
dat y i posted out this last Sunday over here : svc 161 now every wkend & PH hv half or more DDs slot to SD buses and this SD buses running were always full of pax like ytd saw 1 SD 161 coming out from WL int. the whole bus was already full of pax even seen pax standing on bus maybe they can put 3 or 4 SD buses is ok but not too much leh yes ! maybe in the early morning time hv not dat high demand only bah if im not wrong .
Actually, people from sengkang area can take 965 but don't understand why they chose 161.Personally, i feel that timing is bout same from sengkang to woodlands. -
Originally posted by Yongjunzer:
Actually, people from sengkang area can take 965 but don't understand why they chose 161.Personally, i feel that timing is bout same from sengkang to woodlands.
Very simple - because 161 is so much more reliable than sv 161. And on weekdays you have a full fleet DD service. Who would want to stand in a 965 when you can go seated in a 161. Definitely, 161 has taken pax from sv 965. -
Originally posted by Yongjunzer:
Actually, people from sengkang area can take 965 but don't understand why they chose 161.Personally, i feel that timing is bout same from sengkang to woodlands.161 is faster.
By a huge margin.
The only time it makes sense to take 965 is when you are going to Yishun/Khatib, not Woodlands.
Personally I feel that your sense of time must have taken quite a whack.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
Very simple - because 161 is so much more reliable than sv 161. And on weekdays you have a full fleet DD service. Who would want to stand in a 965 when you can go seated in a 161. Definitely, 161 has taken pax from sv 965.Careful careful....
I remember there will be people who will tell you 965 is very reliable.
And then there will also be those who tell you 161 isn't half as reliable as 168....though perhaps they might give that 965 is just horrible.
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I agree with SBS2601D on this. Sv 161 is very reliable, quite good frequency around 10 mins peak, 15 mins off-peak and during weekdays full fleet DDs, even in off-peak.
On weekends, you see more SDs but I think that is because of the loading. The typical loading whenever I have taken 161 DD on weekends is between 50-55 pax. Does not cross 60 pax on most occassions, very easily managed by SDs.
Ofcourse given that it is a long distance route, DDs would be better and I think once they observe the loading on weekends, they might add more DDs. But so many SDs on weekends like last one is also not usual.
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Actually putting SD on 161 is not a good idea. And loading on weekend is quite significant, day and night.
But if we talk about ferrying people from point A to B, it appears that most of the time, the half SD fleet (refer to LSK's post) can cope. Though at times, barely.
There was also a time where people missed the last 161 on weekend night because it was SD. But such instances are rare. So a full DD fleet is desirable...but necessity or not, I think SBST is making right calls most of the time.
Its different from my complaints about 74 and 147 SDs. These services need full DD fleet, nothing less. And the latter's frequency is erratic and leaves you fuming during night off-peak.
To put crudely:
Seeing SD on 161 = Irritated.
Seeing SD on 74/147 = dulan (cannot board)
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Originally posted by SBS2601D:
Actually putting SD on 161 is not a good idea. And loading on weekend is quite significant, day and night.
But if we talk about ferrying people from point A to B, it appears that most of the time, the half SD fleet (refer to LSK's post) can cope. Though at times, barely.
There was also a time where people missed the last 161 on weekend night because it was SD. But such instances are rare. So a full DD fleet is desirable...but necessity or not, I think SBST is making right calls most of the time.
Its different from my complaints about 74 and 147 SDs. These services need full DD fleet, nothing less. And the latter's frequency is erratic and leaves you fuming during night off-peak.
To put crudely:
Seeing SD on 161 = Irritated.
Seeing SD on 74/147 = dulan (cannot board)
I think SBST has taken note of sv 74 and made improvements to it. As per sources, few SDs are replaced by DDs.
For sv 147, I think the SDs are supposed to trail behind a DD to take the excess pax that do not board a DD during peak. I feel sv 147 is pretty well managed (especially during peak hours) and also you have many alternatives along the route, unlike sv 74.
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3349B on 55 tdy
3355H on 31A/31 might be perm but need to keep in view
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161 can do with 12 Wrights and 2 KUBs yes and off peak frequencies need to be between 7-10 mins..74 on the other hand need to convert 4 SDs to DDs..151 super sway from last time.171 also,Think need to have 171A from Bt Panjang to Marina during am peak and vice versa for pm peak.Now 125 also got DD..854 no need say much,even pm peak also screw up.Diff from full Amdep last time.Now svc 7 also a lot of SD cameos,Drop in pax?
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147 now also got SD buses doing on weekends.So far as I know,the DD buses are the ones usually did 147 on weekends and not the SD buses.
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Originally posted by SMB189A:
And at WRI long queue till the escalator there.long queue also nevermind later can see SD coming in somemore !
pity those people queuing @ the end hv to stand all the way to Punggol RD BLK 190C bus stop @ least to hv a seat . -
182/182M's fleet today:
2786D, 3267D, 3332Z, 3613M, 3616E, 7629S, 9366L, 9498P, 1 unknown Wright, 2 other unknown buses.SBS6405C
(BBDEP) - on Service 175 today (28/8)From SBS8501U/TIB1138M:
SBS5036R
(AMDEP SP
AMDEP 54)SBS8375S
(AMDEP 54 AMDEP SP)SBS8749Y
(AMDEP 54 AMDEP SP)SBS8765A
(AMDEP 54 AMDEP SP)From SBS8533C:
SBS9286J
(SLBP 182/182M SLBP 252) - Sub 7225SBS9322M
(SLBP 182/182M SLBP 246) - Sub 9367SBS9288D
(SLBP 182/182M SLBP 249) - Sub 9239 -
Also from sg wiki: SBS3609B SBS3610X (SLBP SP -> SLBP 97) SBS9466G (SLBP 97 -> SLBP 193) SBS3611T (SLBP SP -> SLBP 192) SBS9334D (SLBP SP -> SLBP 252) SBS2995S (SLBP SP -> SLBP 193) Can someone just compile the recent SLBP redeployments? So many edits recently and not posted here.
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Originally posted by Lsk138:
this r last sunday deployment of SD ON 161
- SBS 964U ON 161
- SBS 1981M ON 161
- SBS 1995Z ON 161
- SBS 2659M ON 161
- SBS 2656X ON 161
- SBS 2666S ON 161
- + All the 3 PERM WEGs also not operating
- Sundays: 11AM-11PM (11 buses) 6 SD out of 11 buses !
- u said : except the occasional SD.....but definitely not half the fleet is SD on weekends.
There would be more SDs than DDs on weekends, or at least about 5.
Well, some people are seeing "things" already
6/11 isn't at least half..and I still recall there were some weekends with more than 6 SDs. Just thank god no people stomp, dk why they dw to put more DDs like 168..Anyway, if 161's frequency is good/reliable, mind explaining to me why I've to wait about 15-25mins for the next bus after skipping the front DD? It's somewhat not consistent with the interval. Or even some drivers speeding on expressway and ended up bunching with a DD on Weekend morning?
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I just took 161 again last night. Around 1030pm. VO3X
Journey took 40 min to reach HG Int from WDL, waiting time was 5 min, the queue was until the point where the barricades double-back.
Granted this was "off-peak" "no jam" period. So less people.
The 161-regular is mystified by claims that 161 is unreliable and has too many SDs on weekends.Of the buses that pass my place, I think only only 88 has the potential for claims of being more reliable as far as frequency is concerned.
If 161 was really cui, then I dont really know where services like 963, 966, 171 stand.
I am quite fed up with these 3 by comparison. And its not like these are nobody-services. There are regular commuters like myself who curse and swear waiting for these buses.
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Actually all bus services are good on a weekday morning after 9.45
post peak hr trauma has left scars on the intervals
858 : sunddely the freq become 25 min then after that come 3 bus run tgt at sembawang mrt
next one 30 min sweep customers clean deli deli ... then after that 5min come again no cust...
856 : 10am all stuck at woodlands between 920-950 am come sembawang that time 10am 3-5. 856 buses run together for hi shun then subsequently the next 856 would arrive after 20 min
chance upon the 20 min one..... Happy sardines
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Then 965 , my favourite joyride , during off peaks got some bus driver hate to carry ppl in front his bus already swept the passengers clean for him , 3 min later he comes along to khatib knowing that there won't be a passenger....... I go up his face black ..... Reach sengkang int , the bus in front just finished boarding .... So he drops me off and speeds to the boarding berth ( frequency 40 sec ) takes 2 pax and misses the light so the bus in front get head start to start 'sweeping ' in the end he is just gonna take that 2 pax to the eway and drive at a ridiculous 40kph until lentor ........ Fun eh ?