SBST Volvo B9TL Wrights (Part 3)
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Registered on 09th May 2014:
SBS3783E
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SBS3777Z is on 2 today. Debut. New to BNDEP.
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Registered on 16th May 2014:
SBS3785A
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Originally posted by SMB1388K:
obviously because LECIP has too many problems, like duh. If not why use LECIP no problem go change back Hanover?Going by that logic, KMB must be an irate customer given that they ordered up to six types of EDS for their 340 B9TL WEG2 buses.
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Originally posted by sgbuses:
Going by that logic, KMB must be an irate customer given that they ordered up to six types of EDS for their 340 B9TL WEG2 buses.
Did you see with your own eyes that the LECIP has many problems?
or going by your logic, that SBST should continue getting LECIP despite the malfunctionings? -
Originally posted by SMB1388K:
Did you see with your own eyes that the LECIP has many problems?
or going by your logic, that SBST should continue getting LECIP despite the malfunctionings?You do not understand how procurement of inventory works.
I went to the supermarket yesterday because I ran out of AAA brand cup noodles which I bought a dozen last time.
Just because I bought a dozen of BBB brand cup noodles this time round doesn't necessarily mean AAA brand cup noodles is rubbish.
I could have bought BBB brand cup noodles because it offers me better value for money this time round, has improved their plastic spoon, offered a larger size, or simply because AAA is out of stock.
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Originally posted by sgbuses:
You do not understand how procurement of inventory works.
I went to the supermarket yesterday because I ran out of AAA brand cup noodles which I bought a dozen last time.
Just because I bought a dozen of BBB brand cup noodles this time round doesn't necessarily mean AAA brand cup noodles is rubbish.
I could have bought BBB brand cup noodles because it offers me better value for money this time round, has improved their plastic spoon, offered a larger size, or simply because AAA is out of stock.
Enlighten me expert, no LECIP signages malfunction? We are talking about at least a 17 years of operations and some of them already brand new cock up.
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Originally posted by SMB1388K:
Enlighten me expert, no LECIP signages malfunction? We are talking about at least a 17 years of operations and some of them already brand new cock up.
No EDS is infalliable... LED-based EDS is generally less reliable than its predecessors.
This was the first LECIP EDS on a CDGE B9TL bus, and it was corrupted shortly. If malfunctions were the only factor, SBS Transit would have gotten something else long ago...
I am not defending any particular brand. My point here is that there are multiple criteria to consider in tenders and procurements, and it is too easy to oversimplify matters.
Inventory can be purchased in separate batches. It does not necessarily need to match with the number of new buses purchased.
Only time will tell how long these equipment will last. Transit Media was frequently praised when it was first introduced, and look how long it lasted.
I will stop this debate here.
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Originally posted by sgbuses:
No EDS is infalliable... LED-based EDS is generally less reliable than its predecessors.
This was the first LECIP EDS on a CDGE B9TL bus, and it was corrupted shortly. If malfunctions were the only factor, SBS Transit would have gotten something else long ago...
I am not defending any particular brand. My point here is that there are multiple criteria to consider in tenders and procurements, and it is too easy to oversimplify matters.
Inventory can be purchased in separate batches. It does not necessarily need to match with the number of new buses purchased.
Only time will tell how long these equipment will last. Transit Media was frequently praised when it was first introduced, and look how long it lasted.
I will stop this debate here.
The failure rate for Hanover has been pretty low since its introduction. No EDS is invincible.
besides, unless you happen to be aware of any information that is employee only.... -
Originally posted by SMB1388K:
The failure rate for Hanover has been pretty low since its introduction. No EDS is invincible.
besides, unless you happen to be aware of any information that is employee only....I am neither aware, nor have access to any such information or statistic.
You can, however, read up more on tenders and procurements using publicly available information in comparable foreign cities and from selected University textbooks.
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Originally posted by sgbuses:
I am neither aware, nor have access to any such information or statistic.
You can, however, read up more on tenders and procurements using publicly available information in comparable foreign cities and from selected University textbooks.
damn sure you probably have your cup noodles spoilt by now.
SBS Transit not like KMB la, how many EDS do you think they want to try? LECIP cannot go back to tried and tested Hanover that got less success rate, got so difficult? Did we see any other brands coming in? -
Originally posted by SMB1388K:
damn sure you probably have your cup noodles spoilt by now.
SBS Transit not like KMB la, how many EDS do you think they want to try? LECIP cannot go back to tried and tested Hanover that got less success rate, got so difficult? Did we see any other brands coming in?Coolair, Transit Media for the 38xx and 39xx buses?
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Originally posted by azharjj:
EDS looks like hanover... is it? or still LECIP?
Identify it by looking at the rear EDS. Hanover rear EDS is thinner.
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Registered on 20th May 2014:
SBS3786Y
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Originally posted by SBS3004X:
Coolair, Transit Media for the 38xx and 39xx buses?
you think SBST so like KMB like that expert say ar. LOL
bus parts got problem go back to more reliable parts liao if not the batch of LECIPs one by one spoil SBS sure gg. -
Originally posted by sgbuses:
I am neither aware, nor have access to any such information or statistic.
You can, however, read up more on tenders and procurements using publicly available information in comparable foreign cities and from selected University textbooks.
Oh he won't.
That's a given.....and a statistic, based on whatever we have seen from the exchange.
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Originally posted by SMB1388K:
you think SBST so like KMB like that expert say ar. LOL
bus parts got problem go back to more reliable parts liao if not the batch of LECIPs one by one spoil SBS sure gg.haha!
point proven indeed.
I think you should read what he/she typed again.
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Registered on 21st May 2014:
SBS3787U
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Originally posted by SBS2601D:
Oh he won't.
That's a given.....and a statistic, based on whatever we have seen from the exchange.
who would be showing publicly that they have insider information nowadays?
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Originally posted by SBS2601D:
haha!
point proven indeed.
I think you should read what he/she typed again.
Fact : LECIP EDSes are spoiling at a very fast rate, SBS went back to Hanover. Logical.
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Originally posted by SMB1388K:
Fact : LECIP EDSes are spoiling at a very fast rate, SBS went back to Hanover. Logical.
But the VO ones are still working fine....and what makes you think that way? There could be other reasons why they changed...
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You probably never heard of an academic journal.
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Originally posted by sgbuses:
You probably never heard of an academic journal.
you probably never heard of logic.
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Originally posted by TIB429E:
But the VO ones are still working fine....and what makes you think that way? There could be other reasons why they changed...
Volvo B9TL CDGE and Wright spoiling la
VO ones working fine but majority of the newer one not, how you explain?
What makes you think that way that a minority spoil == everything good. -
Lawo HIGHLED also will be used for the Wrights?