Originally posted by SMB128B:Will have one... LTA goal is to get as diverse a mix as possible in all depots...
They have started with SMRT alr...
Singapore is going to end up like Melbourne and Adelaide, each bus operator running no less than 20 different models.
It comes with a price too. $3.90 bus fare here we come...
Originally posted by sgbuses:Singapore is going to end up like Melbourne and Adelaide, each bus operator running no less than 20 different models.
It comes with a price too. $3.90 bus fare here we come...
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Originally posted by CB2883J:You seen the EDS format for the SMRT B9TLs already? Or basing on Citaros?
just Tahoma font + no capitalisation
New Bridge Road via 1 90
Bukit Panjang Road
Originally posted by SMB128B:Will have one... LTA goal is to get as diverse a mix as possible in all depots...
They have started with SMRT alr...
and that makes zero economic sense, for both LTA and the operators (in paying operators the increased costs in maintaining more bus types, and reduced economies of scale in purchasing). not that LTA has been a beacon of sensibility.
Originally posted by sgbuses:Singapore is going to end up like Melbourne and Adelaide, each bus operator running no less than 20 different models.
It comes with a price too. $3.90 bus fare here we come...
70% asked for it. and the bus fans and lobbyists too.
Originally posted by TIB868X:70% asked for it. and the bus fans and lobbyists too.
Hi mr TIB868X, don't worry. $3.90 bus fare will not come in our lifetime. The way that it is being controlled now, it will not rise so much. All these are just waylaid predictions. No need to read too much into it. Certainly don't even need to push blame to whatever 70%, bus fans, etc if things do not coincide with your expectations.Cheers. Thanks.
Originally posted by TIB987K:22 July 2016 | 1830 | WPDEP
5 SBST livery without corporate logos B9TL buses (SG5041L, SG5047X, SG5048T, SG5049R & SG5052E)Parked on the left of 4 A95 buses.
1 unknown wright with SBST colours at liannex
spotted at 2pm plus today
Originally posted by TIB868X:70% asked for it. and the bus fans and lobbyists too.
i never ask for it.
Originally posted by azharjj:1 unknown wright with SBST colours at liannex
spotted at 2pm plus today
Repainting: Make it Wright!
Funny thing i did ask my depot personnels on who is footing the maintenance/diesel bills and he reply "LTA 50/50 with operators".
Originally posted by TIB868X:and that makes zero economic sense, for both LTA and the operators (in paying operators the increased costs in maintaining more bus types, and reduced economies of scale in purchasing). not that LTA has been a beacon of sensibility.
Economy is not a problem here when our dear govt have a sea of reserves to spend and a mountain of taxpayers money...
If economy really was a problem 46/47 wouldnt have gotten DDs... And svcs like 61 wouldnt have existed till today...
Originally posted by SMB128B:Economy is not a problem here when our dear govt have a sea of reserves to spend and a mountain of taxpayers money...
If economy really was a problem 46/47 wouldnt have gotten DDs... And svcs like 61 wouldnt have existed till today...
it's not the economy, it's economies of scale to achieve savings responsibly. got money doesn't mean you can smoke it all, especially taxpayer dollars. anyway it is generally believed GCM will always run at a deficit, aka only survive with govt subsidies. the questions is how much
Originally posted by dupdup77:Hi mr TIB868X, don't worry. $3.90 bus fare will not come in our lifetime. The way that it is being controlled now, it will not rise so much. All these are just waylaid predictions. No need to read too much into it. Certainly don't even need to push blame to whatever 70%, bus fans, etc if things do not coincide with your expectations.Cheers. Thanks.
then taxpayers including us will foot the bill. money won't come out of nowhere.
Originally posted by SMB128B:Economy is not a problem here when our dear govt have a sea of reserves to spend and a mountain of taxpayers money...
If economy really was a problem 46/47 wouldnt have gotten DDs... And svcs like 61 wouldnt have existed till today...
I would not want you to be in a position controlling financial matters in the government. Money is not to be spent in that manner and all governments aim for budget surplus, or mininmally, a balanced buget.
Also, money in the reserve cannot be used for fiscal spending. These are only used for crises or investment. Fiscal spending has to be budgeted.
Originally posted by SBS351M:I would not want you to be in a position controlling financial matters in the government. Money is not to be spent in that manner and all governments aim for budget surplus, or mininmally, a balanced buget.
Also, money in the reserve cannot be used for fiscal spending. These are only used for crises or investment. Fiscal spending has to be budgeted.
Not sure if you all are too ignorant to see that but this is how LTA actl spends its money... You think I wanna spend like this?! You think I would want to unnecessarily deploy DDs when svcs like 5 still only have like half fleet SDs?!
Cant imagine you all being on social media... Probably will misread satirical articles as actual news... Haiyo
Originally posted by SMB128B:Not sure if you all are too ignorant to see that but this is how LTA actl spends its money... You think I wanna spend like this?! You think I would want to unnecessarily deploy DDs when svcs like 5 still only have like half fleet SDs?!
Obviously you haven't seen Service 5 at night...
Originally posted by TIB967T:Obviously you haven't seen Service 5 at night...
Eh use ur brain before you talk la, every svc will be empty at night right... Unless u talk abt crush loading svcs like 23... You an owl or something? Only observe things at night?
If you wanna use night as a benchmark, 46 and 47 are literally EMPTY at night... I have tried getting to TM from MP in 15 mins coz there were no bloody pax along the way...
Originally posted by SMB128B:Eh use ur brain before you talk la, every svc will be empty at night right... Unless u talk abt crush loading svcs like 23... You an owl or something? Only observe things at night?
If you wanna use night as a benchmark, 46 and 47 are literally EMPTY at night... I have tried getting to TM from MP in 15 mins coz there were no bloody pax along the way...
47 has morning crowds from TM to TJC, VS and VJC so peak DDs are justified in the morning.
Anyway, enough discussion on this. As for the SMRT B9TLs, any updates on the painting?
Originally posted by SBS6853S:just Tahoma font + no capitalisation
New Bridge Road via 1 90
Bukit Panjang Road
Confirmed? Where did you get this info?
If this is true, this is a departure from traditional SMRT formatting. Didn't know LECIP could do Tahoma.
Are the destination words left aligned or centre? And is the top line bolded or not?
Originally posted by CB2883J:47 has morning crowds from TM to TJC, VS and VJC so peak DDs are justified in the morning.
Anyway, enough discussion on this. As for the SMRT B9TLs, any updates on the painting?
If you realise the TJ students all crowd at the bottom deck so the neccessity for DDs diminishes within itself...
Also, TJ and VS/VJ students board 47 at different timings... So there wont be a situation where students of both schools will have to cram into the same bus...
Originally posted by SMB128B:If you realise the TJ students all crowd at the bottom deck so the neccessity for DDs diminishes within itself...
Also, TJ and VS/VJ students board 47 at different timings... So there wont be a situation where students of both schools will have to cram into the same bus...
Yup. TJ will stay downstairs while VS and VJ have a habit of going upstairs.... Lol
But there will be that 1-2 trips between 6.50 and 7 where there is crowds. Up to you on whether that particular period requires DD.
I was told that VJC publicised 47 to its own students. Perhaps without that, the demand would not be so high.
Originally posted by CB2883J:Yup. TJ will stay downstairs while VS and VJ have a habit of going upstairs.... Lol
But there will be that 1-2 trips between 6.50 and 7 where there is crowds. Up to you on whether that particular period requires DD.
I was told that VJC publicised 47 to its own students. Perhaps without that, the demand would not be so high.
You completely missed my point...
VS/VJ students need to travel further, so obviously their boarding times will not clash with TJ's... Most students dont mind the lower deck too, the upper deck is merely an added privelege...
Only a minority will clash with the peak loading for TJ... These are the students who are in big trouble as they will definitely not make it on time...
Originally posted by SMB128B:You completely missed my point...
VS/VJ students need to travel further, so obviously their boarding times will not clash with TJ's... Most students dont mind the lower deck too, the upper deck is merely an added privelege...
Only a minority will clash with the peak loading for TJ... These are the students who are in big trouble as they will definitely not make it on time...
Oh. I get what you mean now.
Anyway, VS and VJ students have an alternative in terms of 31 and 48. TJ students have 12 and 38.
Originally posted by CB2883J:Oh. I get what you mean now.
Anyway, VS and VJ students have an alternative in terms of 31 and 48. TJ students have 12 and 38.
Thats right. 47 is not exclusive but rather an alternative. It is a good route undeniably but does not justify the use of DDs.