Joo Koon Bus Interchange
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Originally posted by iveco:
Run parallel to 985. The latter can be amended to serve BBT West Ave 5 full stretch, like the old 989.
Alternatively, 947 can be extended to YWT. Have a variant 947A looping @ BBT West Ave 4.
947 is feeder... not possible...
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Also lets stop discussing routes in Joo Koon Interchange thread.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
Also lets stop discussing routes in Joo Koon Interchange thread.
Please make an exception on bus routes going to or originating from Joo Koon Bus Interchange. Thanks.
If the bus routes go to Joo Koon Bus Interchange, you may discuss it here.
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Few days ago, I went to look at Joo Koon Bus Interchange. The site is still (mostly) under construction. Cannot really see any fitting of fixtures yet. Most importantly, there's no signboard saying "Joo Koon Bus Interchange" or something like that. Needless to say, there is no sighting of buses going inside and coming out.
With such sighting, I think the new Joo Koon Bus Interchange may not open in mid-November this year. When the news report mentioned Joo Koon Bus Interchange will be ready by end-2014, I guess they only meant the bus interchange complete construction.
- New predictions on opening date:
- - end-Decemer 2014
- - March 2015
- - June 2015
Personally, I think Joo Koon Bus Interchange will only open in December 2014 or June 2015, because this is a new bus interchange, and its opening will mean a revamp to the bus networks at Tuas, Jurong Industrial Estate and Jurong West.
This is unlike the other bus interchanges where the bus routes are already fixed and re-location would not have much impact on the routes.
Since there will be a revamp of bus networks, I think it would be wise to open it only during a certain time of the year where there are low traffic and changes to traffic volumes would not change so fast (long period of time), so people can make smooth adjustments and adapt well to the revamp, with minimal disruptions to their lives. Likewise for the bus company and the bus drivers.
Joo Koon Bus Interchange is a completely new bus interchange. Everything is new. Since it is everything new, there is really a need for time to make adjustments. #justsaying
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I predict they will be 5 trunks and 2 feeder like svc..
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Hi all, any news when it will be opened? Cheers!
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Spotted the new Joo koon Int beside Fairprice Hub along Benoi Road on sun night...
Only have 3 or 4 'Sawtooth' Boarding Berths & 2 Alighting Berths, Quite a very small int like Serangoon.
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Originally posted by sbst272:
Spotted the new Joo koon Int beside Fairprice Hub along Benoi Road on sun night...
Only have 3 or 4 'Sawtooth' Boarding Berths & 2 Alighting Berths, Quite a very small int like Serangoon.
Expected... Not many people except the workers go to the industrial estate in the far west.
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Benefits students like us studying in NTU
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Originally posted by JohnDeSon:
Benefits students like us studying in NTU
how? Isnt Pioneer close by?
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Originally posted by 23ispolo:
Expected... Not many people except the workers go to the industrial estate in the far west.
Yes... to think of it except Joo Koon apartments, I don't think there is any other HDB/condo in the entire area?
It is just full of industrial workers. So we can expect interchange to be dead after 20.00 hours and during off-peak
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Originally posted by sbst272:
Spotted the new Joo koon Int beside Fairprice Hub along Benoi Road on sun night...
Only have 3 or 4 'Sawtooth' Boarding Berths & 2 Alighting Berths, Quite a very small int like Serangoon.
If it is 4 sawtooth boarding berths, can already accommodate 12 services.. (provided there are at least 24 parking bays) which is good enough, much more than what Serangoon can offer.
Joo Koon even if not residential will have huge importance considering how Tuas south is getting developed. But then again after EWL extension to Tuas, maybe new services will start calling from Tuas Terminal.
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By the way Tuas Terminal is quite large. I don't know why 192/193/254 just don't loop at Boon Lay when Tuas can be the main resting/starting point for these services? This way could have more space at Boon Lay as well.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
Yes... to think of it except Joo Koon apartments, I don't think there is any other HDB/condo in the entire area?
It is just full of industrial workers. So we can expect interchange to be dead after 20.00 hours and during off-peak
In the industrial area, there are hostels and dormitories, and eateries and commercial places. I believe the Feeder bus services at Joo Koon Bus Interchange will connect the hostels/dormitories to the hangout places and Fairprice Hub (Joo Koon MRT Station).
That said, if Joo Koon Bus Interchange has such bus services, Tuas Bus Terminal should also have Feeder bus services, since the entire industrial area is quite large, and further more, the new Tuas MRT Stations will be ready in a few years' time.
The feeder bus services there should serve two purposes:
- - First and Last mile of Public Transport for people staying in other parts of Singapore to go to the industrial areas to work.
- - To provide a reliable and efficient public transport for our international friends to travel around and have the kind of living we have at our own place.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
By the way Tuas Terminal is quite large. I don't know why 192/193/254 just don't loop at Boon Lay when Tuas can be the main resting/starting point for these services? This way could have more space at Boon Lay as well.
The length of those bus routes are quite large, actually. If make them loop instead of terminate, the length will double and become too large. #justsaying
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Originally posted by JurongWestresident:
The length of those bus routes are quite large, actually. If make them loop instead of terminate, the length will double and become too large. #justsaying
True. That could be the reason, but then 182 does loop and has almost same length, if not more.
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Same goes for 255/257 also that have super lengthy routes. Are there downroutes for these services from industrial areas during PM peak? Not heard of any.
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Tuas because If BC have to change shift its quite troublesome having to take the bus all the way back to Boon Lay.
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Heard that some stores at Fairprice Hub (where Joo Koon Bus Interchange is) are opening in the first week of December. This may mean that the public can go into Fairprice Hub starting first week of December.
By then, we may know the layout of Joo Koon Bus Interchange from the layout of Fairprice Hub level one, similar to how the layout of the new Boon Lay Air-conditioned Bus Interchange was discovered through the layout of Jurong Point extension level one almost six years ago.
Unless, the Joo Koon Bus Interchange development and the Fairprice Hub development are "separate" entities - similar to Bedok Mall and the new Bedok Air-conditioned Bus Interchange - where the layout of the bus interchange is not shown in the mall. Then we may have to wait until the Joo Koon Bus Interchange open then we will know how the layout is like.
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Originally posted by JurongWestresident:
Heard that some stores at Fairprice Hub (where Joo Koon Bus Interchange is) are opening in the first week of December. This may mean that the public can go into Fairprice Hub starting first week of December.
By then, we may know the layout of Joo Koon Bus Interchange from the layout of Fairprice Hub level one, similar to how the layout of the new Boon Lay Air-conditioned Bus Interchange was discovered through the layout of Jurong Point extension level one almost six years ago.
Unless, the Joo Koon Bus Interchange development and the Fairprice Hub development are "separate" entities - similar to Bedok Mall and the new Bedok Air-conditioned Bus Interchange - where the layout of the bus interchange is not shown in the mall. Then we may have to wait until the Joo Koon Bus Interchange open then we will know how the layout is like.
Yeah. I was the one who took the photo of BNL interchange layout
And it has been 6 years alr! Omg
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Hopefully there will be at least 4 trunks and 3-4 industrial svc.
Best is to have ply Bt Batok/Clementi/Jurong West and Taman Jurong..
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Joo Koon Bus Interchange is a new bus interchange. This is the first time many of us (born after 1990 and staying in the West) will witness the opening of a new bus interchange, so it is something I believe many are excited about.
While we await the opening of Joo Koon Bus Interchange, these were what happened when Sembawang Bus Interchange and Punggol Bus Interchange - both new bus interchanges - opened on 17 November 2005 and 30 November 2003 respectively,
- some bus routes (eg. 83, 3, 62 and 136 at Punggol) (eg. 167, 859, 980, 981 at Sembawang) were extended to the new bus interchanges.
- new bus route 882 at Sembawang was created at the new bus interchange when it opened.
Based on these, I believe when Joo Koon Bus Interchange opens,
- some bus routes (mainly Tuas-dominant bus routes) (eg. 257, 254, 182, 192 and 193) may be shortened to originate from Joo Koon.
- some bus routes (eg. 251, 252 and 255) may be re-routed and extended to terminate at Joo Koon while continue to originate from Boon Lay.
- those bus routes (eg. 251, 252 and 255) re-routed may be re-routed to cover loss due to shortening of Tuas-dominant bus services (eg. 254, 192).
- some new bus route(s) may be created from Joo Koon to cover the loss, should 252 or/and 255 be re-routed.
- I foresee a new bus route replacing 182 and 193 at Upper Jurong Road.
- In all, I believe there will be ten bus routes (eg. 257, 254, 182, 192, 193, 251, 252, 255, new A and new B) at Joo Koon Bus Interchange.
- However, due to the possibility that Joo Koon Bus Interchange may only have three sawtooth berths and the capacity for only nine bus routes, I believe some Tuas-dominant bus routes may instead (be extended to Tuas Bus Terminal, if they are not yet at Tuas, and) loop elsewhere.
- 193 and 192 may be shortened to loop around Joo Koon MRT and Joo Koon Bus Interchange (only driving through Joo Koon Bus Interchange and exit to Benoi Road)(without stopping at Joo Koon Bus Interchange) for a few years, then shortened again to loop at Tuas Flyover, when Gul Circle MRT opens.
- 182 may be shortend to Joo Koon for a few years, then shortened again to Tuas Bus Terminal, when Tuas Link MRT opens.
- Eventually, when the Tuas West MRT Extension opens, I believe Joo Koon Bus Interchange should have around seven (eg. 257, 254, 251, 252, 255, new A, new B) bus services, with capacity for two/five (if there are three sawtooth berths) to five/eight (if there are four sawtooth berths) new bus services.
Press release wise, we may expect something like these:
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Originally posted by JurongWestresident:
Joo Koon Bus Interchange is a new bus interchange. This is the first time many of us (born after 1990 and staying in the West) will witness the opening of a new bus interchange, so it is something I believe many are excited about.
While we await the opening of Joo Koon Bus Interchange, these were what happened when Sembawang Bus Interchange and Punggol Bus Interchange - both new bus interchanges - opened on 17 November 2005 and 30 November 2003 respectively,
- some bus routes (eg. 83, 3, 62 and 136 at Punggol) (eg. 167, 859, 980, 981 at Sembawang) were extended to the new bus interchanges.
- new bus route 882 at Sembawang was created at the new bus interchange when it opened.
Based on these, I believe when Joo Koon Bus Interchange opens,
- some bus routes (mainly Tuas-dominant bus routes) (eg. 257, 254, 182, 192 and 193) may be shortened to originate from Joo Koon.
- some bus routes (eg. 251, 252 and 255) may be re-routed and extended to terminate at Joo Koon while continue to originate from Boon Lay.
- those bus routes (eg. 251, 252 and 255) re-routed may be re-routed to cover loss due to shortening of Tuas-dominant bus services (eg. 254, 192).
- some new bus route(s) may be created from Joo Koon to cover the loss, should 252 or/and 255 be re-routed.
- I foresee a new bus route replacing 182 and 193 at Upper Jurong Road.
- In all, I believe there will be ten bus routes (eg. 257, 254, 182, 192, 193, 251, 252, 255, new A and new B) at Joo Koon Bus Interchange.
- However, due to the possibility that Joo Koon Bus Interchange may only have three sawtooth berths and the capacity for only nine bus routes, I believe some Tuas-dominant bus routes may instead (be extended to Tuas Bus Terminal, if they are not yet at Tuas, and) loop elsewhere.
- 193 and 192 may be shortened to loop around Joo Koon MRT and Joo Koon Bus Interchange (only driving through Joo Koon Bus Interchange and exit to Benoi Road)(without stopping at Joo Koon Bus Interchange) for a few years, then shortened again to loop at Tuas Flyover, when Gul Circle MRT opens.
- 182 may be shortend to Joo Koon for a few years, then shortened again to Tuas Bus Terminal, when Tuas Link MRT opens.
- Eventually, when the Tuas West MRT Extension opens, I believe Joo Koon Bus Interchange should have around seven (eg. 257, 254, 251, 252, 255, new A, new B) bus services, with capacity for two/five (if there are three sawtooth berths) to five/eight (if there are four sawtooth berths) new bus services.
Press release wise, we may expect something like these:
Hi mr jurongwestresident, you still keep all those old threads for Yr 2005. Kudos to you!!! Cheers.
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Originally posted by JurongWestresident:
Joo Koon Bus Interchange is a new bus interchange. This is the first time many of us (born after 1990 and staying in the West) will witness the opening of a new bus interchange, so it is something I believe many are excited about.
While we await the opening of Joo Koon Bus Interchange, these were what happened when Sembawang Bus Interchange and Punggol Bus Interchange - both new bus interchanges - opened on 17 November 2005 and 30 November 2003 respectively,
- some bus routes (eg. 83, 3, 62 and 136 at Punggol) (eg. 167, 859, 980, 981 at Sembawang) were extended to the new bus interchanges.
- new bus route 882 at Sembawang was created at the new bus interchange when it opened.
Based on these, I believe when Joo Koon Bus Interchange opens,
- some bus routes (mainly Tuas-dominant bus routes) (eg. 257, 254, 182, 192 and 193) may be shortened to originate from Joo Koon.
- some bus routes (eg. 251, 252 and 255) may be re-routed and extended to terminate at Joo Koon while continue to originate from Boon Lay.
- those bus routes (eg. 251, 252 and 255) re-routed may be re-routed to cover loss due to shortening of Tuas-dominant bus services (eg. 254, 192).
- some new bus route(s) may be created from Joo Koon to cover the loss, should 252 or/and 255 be re-routed.
- I foresee a new bus route replacing 182 and 193 at Upper Jurong Road.
- In all, I believe there will be ten bus routes (eg. 257, 254, 182, 192, 193, 251, 252, 255, new A and new B) at Joo Koon Bus Interchange.
- However, due to the possibility that Joo Koon Bus Interchange may only have three sawtooth berths and the capacity for only nine bus routes, I believe some Tuas-dominant bus routes may instead (be extended to Tuas Bus Terminal, if they are not yet at Tuas, and) loop elsewhere.
- 193 and 192 may be shortened to loop around Joo Koon MRT and Joo Koon Bus Interchange (only driving through Joo Koon Bus Interchange and exit to Benoi Road)(without stopping at Joo Koon Bus Interchange) for a few years, then shortened again to loop at Tuas Flyover, when Gul Circle MRT opens.
- 182 may be shortend to Joo Koon for a few years, then shortened again to Tuas Bus Terminal, when Tuas Link MRT opens.
- Eventually, when the Tuas West MRT Extension opens, I believe Joo Koon Bus Interchange should have around seven (eg. 257, 254, 251, 252, 255, new A, new B) bus services, with capacity for two/five (if there are three sawtooth berths) to five/eight (if there are four sawtooth berths) new bus services.
Press release wise, we may expect something like these:
I am not sure if both 192/193 will be truncated. One of them for sure, but 192 should stay as it is.
I think 249, 251 might not go to Joo Koon but high likelihood of 252, 255, 257 to start from Joon Koon.
One of the two - either 182/254 might start from Joo Koon, while the other will continue to operate from Boon Lay.
In totality, JIS services from Joo Koon could be:
193, 252, 255, 254, 255, 257
JIS services that will continue to operate from Boon Lay
182, 192, 246, 249, 251
* This in itself will give space for 6 new services to call at Boon Lay Interchange. Hoping with this move, 49 will be extended to Boon Lay (loop), 79 will terminate at Boon Lay (rather than loop). There should be 2 new JIS services from Boon Lay introduced, one for Jurong Island Road & other for the remaining part of International road not covered by 246/252. (sv 248, sv 253)
* There should be 2 new services launched from Joo Koon, one covering Tuas south (sv 256) and other covering lost parts of Pioneer Sector not covered by 257 (sv 259)
* There should be a service along Kim Tian Industrial area/dorms that do not have service today. This one could also do International road before terminating at Boon Lay (sv 253)