SMRT to get DDs soon
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
Problem with 169 is that it does not have as many high capacity buses as it deserves. Hence, I am proposing 18 DDs... Significant upgrade that will take care of loading. Loading very high in many sectors...
AMK to WDL (am peak)
AMK - upper thomson
yishun ave 3 - yishun mrt
yishun mrt - seneko
WDL to AMK (am peak)
wdl - seneko
admiralty west - yishun
yishun mrt - upper Thomson rd
all these sectors have 70+ loading.. Means need dd or bendy and loading is bidirectional.
Hmm quite true also. Even the FT workers were damn pekcek about the frequency
Even 858 came more frequently than 169 liao -
bendies MIA from 169 ...
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From what I've seen for 951E loading from st82 alone, the seats are mostly occupied(spotted 3115T/3061P/3075A). Can introduce DD already
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Originally posted by TIB429E:
From what I've seen for 951E loading from st82 alone, the seats are mostly occupied(spotted 3115T/3061P/3075A). Can introduce DD already
That is normal, i took 951E alot of times last year and by the time it reached Evergreen Pri, if im lucky enough i get a seat, if nt stand till Dhoby and a the bus will be filled to the door at the last bus stop
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Originally posted by TIB 585L:
That is normal, i took 951E alot of times last year and by the time it reached Evergreen Pri, if im lucky enough i get a seat, if nt stand till Dhoby and a the bus will be filled to the door at the last bus stop
Normal? :o Didnt spot 951E fleet recently lol..but I can say all 3 buses departed have the same loading. If u introduce DD, passengers don't need to stand all the way from Evergreen pri.
Maybe take out SMB3061P, swope 3052R with DD and prob 3079p
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Originally posted by TIB 585L:
That is normal, i took 951E alot of times last year and by the time it reached Evergreen Pri, if im lucky enough i get a seat, if nt stand till Dhoby and a the bus will be filled to the door at the last bus stop
OT a bit, i did write in for DDs for ffw196 coz evday have peeps standing to the door, reply was the service is not main trunk route, operator can decide the bus type best fit... 196e now still SD
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Last time when 169 is controlled by both Amdep and Wldep things are not so bad cause Am side got 6-7 bendies and Wldep deploy 4-5 bendies..Freq is not that bad cause during Pm peak Am will have 2-3 downroute from Senoko to Yishun but ever since Wldep take over things became more worse by deploying more 12m buses on bendy slots.Ive done check from last month the most Wldep deploy is around 7 bendies
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Last time when 169 is controlled by both Amdep and Wldep things are not so bad cause Am side got 6-7 bendies and Wldep deploy 4-5 bendies..Freq is not that bad cause during Pm peak Am will have 2-3 downroute from Senoko to Yishun but ever since Wldep take over things became more worse by deploying more 12m buses on bendy slots.Ive done check from last month the most Wldep deploy is around 7 bendies
almos evdae pple complain on SMRT FB cannot board 169...
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Originally posted by Acx1688:
almos evdae pple complain on SMRT FB cannot board 169...
Maybe 169 better off under SBST. Confirm 99% B9TL fleet. -
Originally posted by iveco:
Maybe 169 better off under SBST. Confirm 99% B9TL fleet.used to be under SBS with Leyland Atlantean DD's, blue desto but tfr to TIBS(SMRT predecessor) later on...
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Originally posted by TIB429E:
Normal? :o Didnt spot 951E fleet recently lol..but I can say all 3 buses departed have the same loading. If u introduce DD, passengers don't need to stand all the way from Evergreen pri.
Maybe take out SMB3061P, swope 3052R with DD and prob 3079p
That's the difference between 513E and 951E/850E... With DDs, pax can sit comfortably and go to CBD. 513E AM peak now has 65-70 pax - all can get a seat.Ever see 850E/951E at Dhoby Ghaut and you will see when it turns into Orchard Road it is packed to door. Only 34 pax sit and rest 30 pax stand all the way. Hence, have to keep launching more buses.
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Originally posted by iveco:
Maybe 169 better off under SBST. Confirm 99% B9TL fleet.
Now lets see how SMRT manages it with DDs. If 169 was with SBST, guaranteed 18 DDs, 2 SDs for this service. -
Originally posted by Acx1688:
OT a bit, i did write in for DDs for ffw196 coz evday have peeps standing to the door, reply was the service is not main trunk route, operator can decide the bus type best fit... 196e now still SD
10E has all DD in its fleet. I think 196E does not have because in AM peak you also have 196 and 196A running in parallel. -
196E just add 2 more rigid slots will do..169 which part of the route does not have another service run parallel?Deploy 14 DDs(9 splits) will do..If got DDs no need 24 buses,22 will do.Problem with most Wldep BCs they love to fly bus stops..176 & 854 are the good examples which ive spotted several PRC BCs skip bus stops when SBST svc run parallel
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If SMRT buy more DDs and a few more articulate buses they should consider these routes Changi Cargo Complex Another svc to Airport from Northwest(Tengah?,Bt Panjang?) Punggol Taman Jurong & Joo Koon
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
That's the difference between 513E and 951E/850E... With DDs, pax can sit comfortably and go to CBD. 513E AM peak now has 65-70 pax - all can get a seat.Ever see 850E/951E at Dhoby Ghaut and you will see when it turns into Orchard Road it is packed to door. Only 34 pax sit and rest 30 pax stand all the way. Hence, have to keep launching more buses.
513E has max 5 pple standing, i saw when the bus pass me while i was on sv36
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
10E has all DD in its fleet. I think 196E does not have because in AM peak you also have 196 and 196A running in parallel.yah... smetimes 196/A can catch up with 196E due to jam at Mountbatten/Nicoll highway
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NW / W best to have bus to Airport...
Then all the airport routes can run 24hrs with those after 0000hrs at 30mins interval, last bus at 0530hrs departing airport so that airport workers do not need to take cab or rush to wait for the 1st train...
Ample time to rest ...
Bus fares though will be slightly higher probably starting at SGD3.50, DRF style -
Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
10E has all DD in its fleet. I think 196E does not have because in AM peak you also have 196 and 196A running in parallel.Morning 10E has FULL DD morning peak, evening sometimes will deploy Scanias on 10e, spotted many times...
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
That's the difference between 513E and 951E/850E... With DDs, pax can sit comfortably and go to CBD. 513E AM peak now has 65-70 pax - all can get a seat.Ever see 850E/951E at Dhoby Ghaut and you will see when it turns into Orchard Road it is packed to door. Only 34 pax sit and rest 30 pax stand all the way. Hence, have to keep launching more buses.
No choice also...take MRT also stand already
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Originally posted by Acx1688:
yah... smetimes 196/A can catch up with 196E due to jam at Mountbatten/Nicoll highway
196 can often find bunching near Nicoll Highway with either 2 DDs on 196 or 196A/196. Hence, I think load gets distributed between the two. But even if bunching, each bus has 70-80 pax. -
Originally posted by Acx1688:
Morning 10E has FULL DD morning peak, evening sometimes will deploy Scanias on 10e, spotted many times...
10E is normally full on way back to Tampines also. Has a good 70-80 pax. It is stupid to put Scanias. -
Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
196 can often find bunching near Nicoll Highway with either 2 DDs on 196 or 196A/196. Hence, I think load gets distributed between the two. But even if bunching, each bus has 70-80 pax.standard due to heavy traffic at mountbatten and heavy loading as its the only service to CBD aft one amber bus stop.
196A besides the those SDs for 196e running have only 2 other running buses, one is from BB(SBS7495K), the other from BN(SBS7342T) from observations since BSEP came... -
Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
10E is normally full on way back to Tampines also. Has a good 70-80 pax. It is stupid to put Scanias.Eh apparently only 1st 2 buses are full, the 3rd 3/4 half full, last bus half full, smetimes empty
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Originally posted by Acx1688:
Eh apparently only 1st 2 buses are full, the 3rd 3/4 half full, last bus half full, smetimes empty
okay - then makes sense to put Scania on the last bus. they can shift the DD to 196E. can surely give 1-2 DDs to both 196E and 30E.