LTA's Bus Service Enhancement Programme (BSEP) (Part 2)
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Originally posted by SMB128B:
Those few?
Explain please
I don't owe you any explanation coz u know nothing about bus loading.
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Originally posted by dupdup77:
Hi mr SMB128B, this is also why sbs 83 does not go inside compassvale crescent and only plies compassvale st. Plus why no buses go to edgedale plains and sbs 3, 83 go 1 big round (Punggol field, east, then central). Those residents at edgedale plains in middle of Punggol field and central have to walk to either set of bus stops there as it is still within walking distance. Cheers.
If walking is so much not a problem, then the bus stops on Jurong Townhall rd and West Coast rd are only 300 mts away from the existing Pandan Gardens bus stops. Yet you insist on not giving 143 a direct connection from West Cosst to Teban Gardens but want it to do one big loop around Pandan. Where is they consistency in thought process?
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Originally posted by dupdup77:
---> upper serangoon road ---> sengkang east drive ---> sengkang east ave ---> compassvale road ---> sengkang square---> sengkang int. Not too bad an idea. Quite unique. Worth exploring. Cheers.
Are you serious? 113???
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Originally posted by sbst191:
I think 113 can be extended to sengkang int to provide another link for upp serangoon view residents and students there. Might be a big hit
Punggol park bus stop, follow 62 route then 136's towards north vista then go straight up towards sengkang central.
All you are interested here is in 113... After all your complaints, requests on 113 fleet add, DDs, nothing worked. So now you are asking for an extension for an already redundant service.
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Originally posted by sbst191:
I think this extension will be a huge hit because it will lessen the loads of the Sengkang East LRT, lessen the loads of Sv 62 during school hours and off peak hours (towards Punggol Int) and of course give upper serangoon view residents a easy option to commute).
I predict in the near future when the BTO flats and condos are ready, If 113 is extended to Sengkang Int, there will be long queues forming and DDs will be deployed. I have emailed this suggestion to LTA.
Lol on your suggestion.... There you go again... DDs for 113... It is a joke... Every time I have taken this service, it has less than 20 pax between Kovan and HG int... Yet u insist on dd on this service (except for May be ur school timing, when 1 of the 40 buses might be getting 40+ pax)
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
If walking is so much not a problem, then the bus stops on Jurong Townhall rd and West Coast rd are only 300 mts away from the existing Pandan Gardens bus stops. Yet you insist on not giving 143 a direct connection from West Cosst to Teban Gardens but want it to do one big loop around Pandan. Where is they consistency in thought process?
Hi mr BusAnalyser, you forget that there is the inner portion of teban gardens road. Not only the teban gardens next to jurong town hall road. So there is no inconsistency. Cheers.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
Are you serious? 113???
Hi mr BusAnalyser, I only say it is quite unique and worth exploring. It is not a certainty. Sometimes people give ideas and we must always be open to it. Ultimately, suggestions are aplenty and in most cases, they do not really materialize. Cheers.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
I don't owe you any explanation coz u know nothing about bus loading.
My boy, there's no need to reply with such tone, I was merely asking you to clarity what you meant. Yes I know you are very good in bus loadings, but please always be humble and look openly as there may be others out there who may be more senior than you such as being daily commuters of the concerned sector, or even a BC for such. You think a ride or two of jotting down passengers will help? My dear, that's just child's thinking. I know you are more sensible than this, and if that is so, please act like it. This is not a challenge or threaten but rather just a mere way to express my intention and a truthful appeal to receive opinions from a different perspective as from the little I can comprehend from your post I find the statement very false, through my rides with service 9 which occur once sometimes daily, sometimes in every two days.
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Originally posted by SMB128B:
My boy, there's no need to reply with such tone, I was merely asking you to clarity what you meant. Yes I know you are very good in bus loadings, but please always be humble and look openly as there may be others out there who may be more senior than you such as being daily commuters of the concerned sector, or even a BC for such. You think a ride or two of jotting down passengers will help? My dear, that's just child's thinking. I know you are more sensible than this, and if that is so, please act like it. This is not a challenge or threaten but rather just a mere way to express my intention and a truthful appeal to receive opinions from a different perspective as from the little I can comprehend from your post I find the statement very false, through my rides with service 9 which occur once sometimes daily, sometimes in every two days.
You know we have history here, so the special tone comes out sometimes.. Sorry about that :)
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
You know we have history here, so the special tone comes out sometimes.. Sorry about that :)
I'll forgive you.
You may wanna consider working on that? I will too.
Now will you explain?
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Originally posted by SMB128B:
I'll forgive you.
You may wanna consider working on that? I will too.
Now will you explain?
Gauging a new catchment area not served by any public transport is more difficult than areas served by existing public transport (which you can use existing Ez-link/loading data to work with).
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Originally posted by sbst191:
I think 113 can be extended to sengkang int to provide another link for upp serangoon view residents and students there. Might be a big hit
Punggol park bus stop, follow 62 route then 136's towards north vista then go straight up towards sengkang central.
Currently the frequency is damn jialat, plus what you have said of "HIGH LOADINGs" and SBS Transit "ignoring"....still want extend the route...
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Originally posted by TIB429E:
Currently the frequency is damn jialat, plus what you have said of "HIGH LOADINGs" and SBS Transit "ignoring"....still want extend the route...
Like that 62,90,161,125 etc all no need dds cause of it's jialat frequency?
Im suggesting to extend the route as BusAnalayzer said HG sector is useless right?
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Originally posted by sgbuses:
Gauging a new catchment area not served by any public transport is more difficult than areas served by existing public transport (which you can use existing Ez-link/loading data to work with).
I was trying to ask him what he meant by the "few people from Simei".
But anyways I think I got it, and yes I agree it's few. Most who really travel beyong Tampines are just going to Loyang. Yeah they can change to 19 since its the same stop anyways.
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Originally posted by sbst191:
Like that 62,90,161,125 etc all no need dds cause of it's jialat frequency?
Im suggesting to extend the route as BusAnalayzer said HG sector is useless right?
Did you just say 161 don't need DDs... Omg!!!
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Originally posted by SMB128B:
I was trying to ask him what he meant by the "few people from Simei".
But anyways I think I got it, and yes I agree it's few. Most who really travel beyong Tampines are just going to Loyang. Yeah they can change to 19 since its the same stop anyways.
This is what I was proposing.
19: Tampines loop @ Cargo
9: Bedok loop @ Alps
Lets analyze the situation.
anyone who wants to travel from cargo until tampines ave 7 can choose either 9 or 19. Both have frequency of 7-10 minutes in peak. All those who take MRT will either take 89 to Pasir Ris or max 19 to Tampines. There are very few users who will take 9 all the way to Simei and beyond.
if you notice loading on Sv 9 it comes in bursts. Tanah Merah to Simei, Simei to Loyang, then loading drops. If there are a few people who need bus to Simei can always transfer.
Today all people working at Alps have to transfer or use car. Hence, my suggestion yo just divert Sv 9 to loop at Alps ave. with this suggestion, I also suggest 2 Sd slots convert to DD for Sv 9 and one BSEP citaro slot to 3354 or 3355.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
Did you just say 161 don't need DDs... Omg!!!
Looks like you need to get your eyes checked. Or you can opt to take up a few english classes to understand the word sarcasm?
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Originally posted by sbst191:
Looks like you need to get your eyes checked. Or you can opt to take up a few english classes to understand the word sarcasm?
No... I don't get it.. You can't even compare 113 to 161.., so you need to stop your rant on 113, kid!
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Originally posted by sbst191:
Like that 62,90,161,125 etc all no need dds cause of it's jialat frequency?
Im suggesting to extend the route as BusAnalayzer said HG sector is useless right?
Wah clap clap..since when did I mentioned about DD? Wah so automatic sound it out?
I'm just barely commenting on the poor frequency of the service, and yet with poor frequency, you want to extend route. Doesn't make 1 bus from 12mins to 22mins waiting?
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161 without DDs is going to be a mess. sbst191, you are nowhere near sbst275 ... one complaining about 113 and the other complaining about 179.
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now on 116
the loading is now okay, maybe 1 or 2 DDs on the route.
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Originally posted by SMB145B:
161 without DDs is going to be a mess. sbst191, you are nowhere near sbst275 ... one complaining about 113 and the other complaining about 179.
161 without DD. Get ready to get complains from RP students during their school hours
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Originally posted by TIB 585L:
161 without DD. Get ready to get complains from RP students during their school hours
... 161 should have full DD fleet. i would have complained this and extend 161 and/or 168 to RP.
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Originally posted by SMB145B:
... 161 should have full DD fleet. i would have complained this and extend 161 and/or 168 to RP.
If extend im worried it will take a long time to unload with 169 and 902 coming in with bendies and rigids
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Originally posted by TIB 585L:
If extend im worried it will take a long time to unload with 169 and 902 coming in with bendies and rigids
902 comes at very high frequency, not a problem.
169 normally had bendies at that point.