LTA's Bus Service Enhancement Programme (BSEP) (Part 2)
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Originally posted by SBS9C:
Service 20
and it is none other than the infamous 3354 lol
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
43,45,58 all too pampered..
2 should convert 3 SD to DD…
2 has lost demand between china town and bugis now... Don't see packed buses like before anymore
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Originally posted by SMB128B:
I don't think 20 should get DDs.
Most of 20's pax are short-haul pax which does not take the full route from CBP all the way to Tampines. Thus I don't think svc 20 is suitable for DDs.
On the other hand, 20 couldn't even get its peak freq right, with some buses coming after more than 10 minutes during peak! So I think it should start off with fleet add first.
Bro,., Sv 20 has significant loading from Simei during am peak... You can see ppl cannot board bus sometimes... So I don't know y u say this
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
80 should convert 1 SD slot to DD..fleet is okay but better if Arbp take a few duties.
On the contrary, few months back 1 dd slot was made Sd... All SDs do 80A I think in am... Haven't spotted any dd on 80A for long time and 80A has 7 buses... So maybe after slot downgrade... Now all SDs are used for 80A
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Originally posted by sbst191:
I think operate on 1 trip? I saw it once only, didnt catch the rego
False alarm.. I was in HG area today... Didn't see any WEG on 113
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Originally posted by SBS3688Y:
is it because of the narrow streets at Pasir Ris preventing sv 3 from getting DDs, just like sv 38 at Simei?Sv 20 got DDs and it plies exactly the same streets as Sv 38... Sv 3 does not need DDs... For a trunk service, loading on TPE sector does not exceed 50-55 pax to warrant DDs. I am repeating myself - within Pasir Ris town, loading can go 80+ pax but there is 3A and 3B to manage that
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
False alarm.. I was in HG area today... Didn't see any WEG on 113
I guess it is 119 DD.
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1 guy told me he saw a Weg at Hougang Ave 1,Another at Lor Ah Soo...hmmm
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
On the contrary, few months back 1 dd slot was made Sd... All SDs do 80A I think in am... Haven't spotted any dd on 80A for long time and 80A has 7 buses... So maybe after slot downgrade... Now all SDs are used for 80A
What? Service 80 still has high demand. Last year, I saw a CDGE on 80A. But now, all KUBs.
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From my experiences taking 20 (during PM peak hours) the full load seems to be in between Changi Business Park and Simei and upon leaving Simei and entering Tampines one can find seats easily.
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its always packed between Simei-CBP-Simei after that 3/4 loads gone..
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Ignore the shifts. They are from service 5.
Service 3 (21 buses)
Depots:
- Bedok North Depot (BNDEP)
- Ayer Rajah Bus Park (ARBP)
Buses:
- Changi Bus Park (19 buses)
SBS1925B SBS1971S SBS2645C
3 Volvo B10M Mark IV (2 DM / 3 Strider)SBS3760X
1 Volvo B9TL (1 WEG2 Batch 3)SBS6387X
1 Mercedes-Benz O530 Citaro (1 BSEP Batch 2)SBS8220E SBS8570U SBS8571S SBS8572P SBS8573L SBS8575G SBS8576D SBS8579X SBS8593D SBS8601P SBS8631C SBS8632A SBS8633Y SBS8668Y
14 Scania K230UB (1 Batch 2 Euro IV / 13 Batch 1 Euro V)- Hougang Depot (3 buses)
SBS6328S SBS6332D
2 Mercedes-Benz O530 Citaro (2 BSEP Batch 1)SBS3752U
1 Volvo B9TL (1 WEG2 Batch 3)Notes:
- Weekdays: Bedok 9AM-9PM / 6S; Ayer Rajah 8AM-8PM / 1E / 1S (25 buses)
- Saturdays: Bedok 9AM-9PM; Ayer Rajah 8AM-8PM (17 buses)
- Sundays: Bedok 8AM-8PM; Ayer Rajah 7AM-7PM / 1T (16 buses)
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Service 80 (26 - 28 buses)
Depot:
- Hougang Depot (HGDEP)
- Ayer Rajah Bus Park (ARBP)
Buses:
- Hougang Depot (12 - 13 buses)
SBS3106K SBS3108E SBS3110Y SBS7380H SBS7381E SBS7386S SBS7411C SBS7426K SBS7448Y SBS7452J SBS7453G SBS7454D SBS7455B SBS7461H SBS7463C SBS7464A SBS7467S
17 Volvo B9TL (3 WEG2 Batch 2B / 14 CDGE)SBS5158Y SBS8236K SBS8700L SBS8989X
4 Scania K230UB (1 Batch 2 Euro V / 1 Batch 2 Euro IV / 2 Batch 1 Euro V)SBS9682Z SBS9685R
2 Dennis Trident- Ayer Rajah Bus Park (6 buses)
SBS3248J SBS3395S SBS3741B SBS3742Z SBS7354J
5 Volvo B9TL (3 WEG2 Batch 3 / 1 WEG2 BSEP Batch 2 / 1 CDGE)Notes:
- 2 HGDEP buses crossover to Premium 550 during Weekdays AM Peak.
- Weekdays: AM-PM / S; Ayer Rajah AM-PM / S (buses)
- Saturdays: AM-PM / T; Ayer Rajah AM-PM (buses)
- Sundays: AM-PM / T; Ayer Rajah AM-PM (buses)
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Originally posted by ah-soh:
From my experiences taking 20 (during PM peak hours) the full load seems to be in between Changi Business Park and Simei and upon leaving Simei and entering Tampines one can find seats easily.
Loading between Tampines and Simei is 35-40 pax, between CBP and Simei has potential to exceed 70+
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Dead mileage reduce,service effiency.Probably since Bbdep take over from Arbp for svc 14..
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Saw a svc 20 DD along Upper Changi Rd East turning to Simei Rd @6.05pm. As I was sitting on a bus in the opposite direction, I could only see that upper decker was at least 1/2 full (most likely fully seated).
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Originally posted by iveco:
Then 198 still BBDEP?
Its now majority Arbp minority Slbp..More or less few Slbp will start downroute from JW towards BM for its early trips.. -
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
Sv 20 got DDs and it plies exactly the same streets as Sv 38... Sv 3 does not need DDs... For a trunk service, loading on TPE sector does not exceed 50-55 pax to warrant DDs. I am repeating myself - within Pasir Ris town, loading can go 80+ pax but there is 3A and 3B to manage that
Maybe it is just me, but 3A's frequency in afternoon timing feels like normal 3's frequency, giving the feeling that more buses are concentrated within Pasir Ris-Tampines areas than buses that continues to Punggol during this timing. And I never seen 3A operate during PM peak (not sure on AM peak). Loading-wise, all I can say that it is weird (Like many taking from Tamp MRT towards Pasir Ris, but not the other way round). Still one of my favourite services due to its insane operating hours. Do correct me if I am wrong though.
TBH, I am a bit surprised by the new DDs add-ons recently. Both 20 and 3 seems to need DDs but can't ply due to the belief that Simei St 1/4 and Pasir Ris St 21/71 can't ply it. (Looks like I am proven wrong) (Simei do have bendies before though)
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
False alarm.. I was in HG area today... Didn't see any WEG on 113
Haha knew it...HGDEP won't be so nice to put DD on 113 when the queue at interchange can be empty..
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Launch of PPSS 291P and 293P on 24 June. Loading for both services were good, especially for PC2086J (ex SMB137A) where it got a full bus with standees for a few trips.
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Originally posted by TIB429E:
Haha knew it...HGDEP won't be so nice to put DD on 113 when the queue at interchange can be empty..
Hohoho. You dont judge a bus service by it's queue at the interchange..
The demand @ Kovan area itself is already DD loading so yeah.
There are many bus svcs which dosent have much demand at the interchange and they have DDs.. Eg. Sv 119,56,49,107/M,153 etc The key is the demand aft the interchange.. If you do not notice, commuters taking 113 dont even bother to queue and they just sit down and wait. This is very weird.
For distance, Even 225G/W, DDs are deployed even though commuters take this svc for only 1KM - 1.5KM.. So if 119 can get DDs, what would not happen?
Lets wait till 30/06/2014 and see what happens.
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Originally posted by SBS5010P:
Hohoho. You dont judge a bus service by it's queue at the interchange..
The demand @ Kovan area itself is already DD loading so yeah.
There are many bus svcs which dosent have much demand at the interchange and they have DDs.. Eg. Sv 50,119,56,49 etc The key is the demand aft the interchange.. If you do not notice, commuters taking 113 dont even bother to queue and they just sit down and wait. This is very weird.
For distance, Even 225G/W, 3.1KM yet DDs are deployed even though not 100% of commuters will move to upper deck. Commuters take this svc for only 1KM - 1.5KM.. So if 119 can get DDs, what would not happen?
Lets wait till 30/06/2014 and see what happens.
Add DD to the fleet? Might as well deploy 113A...
Well, I've noticed quite a few times..there's once 113 departed HG Int with only less than 10pax, all from the queue. And the waiting time could be rather long. I believe if u BSEP/Fleet add the route(or 113A), problem can be solved.
