LTA's Bus Service Enhancement Programme (BSEP) (Part 2)
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Actually cant it go forward and backwards? Instead of wasting more money to make a temporary u-turn track.
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Originally posted by SMB128B:
That was exactly what I was thinking!
Trains should turn back at Nibong... They couldve easily added that small stretch if there are currently no turnback facilities. And the middle platform at PTC should've been used too! Making the West stretch a good shuttle service!
I can say it's kinda stupid to use the EAST/WEST lighting sign...what if there was fault? What if passenger just dash in w/o seeing the sign?
There can be a last minute change always...like for NSL, there's times where the both the train are scheduled on TV for Platform A. But it happened that one of it changes to Platform D(announced around CCK)...
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Originally posted by TIB429E:
I can say it's kinda stupid to use the EAST/WEST lighting sign...what if there was fault? What if passenger just dash in w/o seeing the sign?
Hi mr TIB429E, if passengers just dash in without seeing the sign, you have to blame the passengers. The operator cannot cover all angles fully. Cheers.
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Originally posted by sbst191:
Actually cant it go forward and backwards? Instead of wasting more money to make a temporary u-turn track.
Can also...
But will take lots of signalling work.
Anyways looks like my thought wouldnt come true... The middle track can never be utilised under such circumstances.
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Originally posted by TIB429E:
I can say it's kinda stupid to use the EAST/WEST lighting sign...what if there was fault? What if passenger just dash in w/o seeing the sign?
There can be a last minute change always...like for NSL, there's times where the both the train are scheduled on TV for Platform A. But it happened that one of it changes to Platform D(announced around CCK)...
Then what do you suggest...
I can't find fault with the lighting sign... Better than nth after all
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Originally posted by SMB128B:
Can also...
But will take lots of signalling work.
Anyways looks like my thought wouldnt come true... The middle track can never be utilised under such circumstances.
Signalling work is better than spending thousands of dollars building a temporary u-turn track that will only be utilised for a few years soon the other stations will also be opened as well. Like this 1 LRT train would be sufficient to serve the three stations for now. There isnt any huge demand also, it's best to save resources. It would be 8 - 10 mins for the LRT to arrive
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Originally posted by SMB128B:
Then what do you suggest...
I can't find fault with the lighting sign... Better than nth after all
I'd suggest announcements in both eng and chi?
Like eg. The Train approaching platform A is serving the Sengkang West Loop.
列车往A平�是�务盛港西，�宗站
Also SBST can install the TVs that we have in the Train Stations at STC station and SBST can programme it to be like
You are at : PLATFORM A
SENGKANG WEST LOOP
SW8 RENJONG
For your safety, please stand behind the yellow line.
You are at : PLATFORM B
SENGKANG WEST LOOP
SW1 CHENG LIM
For your safety, please stand behind the yellow line.
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LTA thinks LRTs aren't wonderful.
Period.
Some of you can yadda yadda yadda, but its a fact.
There are new towns in the works and nobody said they have LRTs.
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Originally posted by sbst191:
I'd suggest announcements in both eng and chi?
Like eg. The Train approaching platform A is serving the Sengkang West Loop.
列车往A平�是往盛港西，�宗站
Also SBST can install the TVs that we have in the Train Stations at STC station and SBST can programme it to be like
You are at : PLATFORM A
SENGKANG WEST LOOP
SW8 RENJONG
For your safety, please stand behind the yellow line.
You are at : PLATFORM B
SENGKANG WEST LOOP
SW1 CHENG LIM
For your safety, please stand behind the yellow line.
Not that much diff...
Still have chances of errors and people not looking...
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Originally posted by dupdup77:
Hi mr TIB429E, if passengers just dash in without seeing the sign, you have to blame the passengers. The operator cannot cover all angles fully. Cheers.
That's Singaporean, it's considered(to them) a REASONABLE reason
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Originally posted by SMB128B:
Not that much diff...
Still have chances of errors and people not looking...
Maybe when there's announcement in languages, passengers have nothing much to say..
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Originally posted by sbst191:
I'd suggest announcements in both eng and chi?
Like eg. The Train approaching platform A is serving the Sengkang West Loop.
列车往A平�是�务盛港西，�宗站
Also SBST can install the TVs that we have in the Train Stations at STC station and SBST can programme it to be like
You are at : PLATFORM A
SENGKANG WEST LOOP
SW8 RENJONG
For your safety, please stand behind the yellow line.
You are at : PLATFORM B
SENGKANG WEST LOOP
SW1 CHENG LIM
For your safety, please stand behind the yellow line.
"Train arriving. For your safety, please stand behind the yellow line, thank you. This train will be running on the WEST loop. (Other language, prob emphasise on the "WEST" loop part)
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Originally posted by SMB128B:
Then what do you suggest...
I can't find fault with the lighting sign... Better than nth after all
TV + Announcement + if possible have 2 different boarding point along the platform.
Since SBST LRT doesn't run 2-car for now, and the platform is designed for 4 doors max(if Im not wrong), East loop can stop towards the end of the platform. West loop can stop furthest to the end of the platform.. Of cus the platform must have some labels..
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Originally posted by TIB429E:
That's Singaporean, it's considered(to them) a REASONABLE reason
Hi mr TIB429E, if people really want to take the effort to know the direction, they will do so and avoid taking the wrong one. If people do not make any reasonable effort to do so, rest assured that they will take the effort to know for the second trip after ending up on the wrong one for first trip. This is simple human behaviour. You can have signs and hearing systems and all but nothing is gonna change if one simply just takes it for granted. Cheers.
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Originally posted by SBS2601D:
LTA thinks LRTs aren't wonderful.
Period.
Some of you can yadda yadda yadda, but its a fact.
There are new towns in the works and nobody said they have LRTs.
Hi mr SBS2601D, what makes you think this way? They did not think LRTs are wonderful and also not wonderful too. Basically all these are dependent on $$$ which necessitated as investments. Yes there are new towns in the works but it also depends on the locations. Not all towns are equal and need LRT. Some may be near major roads and near current MRTs which may negate the need for LRT. Let's look on the bigger perspective in issues and do not just slam all of us here. Cheers.
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Painful facts are just hard to swallow.
What is call big perspective?
Its called perspectives without facts?
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Originally posted by SBS2601D:
Painful facts are just hard to swallow.
What is call big perspective?
Its called perspectives without facts?
Hi mr SBS2601D, nothing painful for me to swallow. I like both buses and LRTs and am okay with both. Let's say which new town they are building and do it have space to build an MRT to connect to 7 or 8 LRT stations to link up to MRT? It is not just by stating a few sentences and expect everybody to adhere to. Cheers.
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Adhere to my words??
*thou shalt bow to me*
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PTC centre platform juz need sme enginnering works...
I dare say it is a matter of time before reconfiguration is done, if you look at the tracks at Punggol LRT, all knows there is one spare in the centre... Juz like Woodlands MRT stn... -
Can cut sv11 to 1 BSEP and 1 scheduled svc...
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Originally posted by SBS 9631X:
Is anyone having the same thought too that BNDEP / CGBP might be going to launch a new BSEP svc soon? Or maybe BSEP improvements to alot of svcs soon?
I'm quite surprised at the numbers of new BSEP Citaros & Wrights in BNDEP in the past few weeks. It's not that surprising if they're just normal new CItaros & Wrights, but these new ones are regged under the BSEP scheme eh. And it's not like those existing BSEP Wrights & Citaros with no perm svcs yet (3375A, 6359C, 6388T, 6413D etc) have disappeared from the SP fleet..63M will need at least 4-5 BSEP buses.... Sv4/69 getting BSEP fleet add as well.. same go for Sv109 and there are some big changes this weekend as well.. Big surprise.....
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Originally posted by lemon1974:
63M will need at least 4-5 BSEP buses.... Sv4/69 getting BSEP fleet add as well.. same go for Sv109 and there are some big changes this weekend as well.. Big surprise.....
Good call on sv 69. Hopefully it will get DD fleet add... 63M - will have good bump in frequency. -
Originally posted by lemon1974:
63M will need at least 4-5 BSEP buses.... Sv4/69 getting BSEP fleet add as well.. same go for Sv109 and there are some big changes this weekend as well.. Big surprise.....
Hi mr lemon1974, what are the big changes this weekend? Care to share? Thanks in advance.
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Originally posted by dupdup77:
Hi mr lemon1974, what are the big changes this weekend? Care to share? Thanks in advance.
May be 39 gets DDs
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The LRT is not a white elephant. If it was a white elephant, SBST would have withdrawn it as it is not economic to run a business that is not making money!