Originally posted by TIB 585L:Simple. No new routes to Woodlands,Boon Lay, Tampines and Bedok. These 4 interchange are freaking congested. If got new route to these 4 interchanges then idk wad to say. That person is losing his mind
I think Tampines is worst, the newest svc there (20) don't even have a dedicated berth, instead just a sign on a wall and some drawn lines as a berth. Didn't know what were they thinking, could've been much better if it goes to PSR from Ave 5 (follow 15's route until Dr 8, and then turn right into Dr 1 and left into PSR Ctrl before entering int) instead... While also passing through the heart of Tampines.
Originally posted by SMB128B:What about 196? Bedok Int is so heavily congested alr. And so many svcs go to the west from there!
Svcs from Bedok Int to the west (Clementi / Jurong East / Boon Lay):
7, 14, 30, 66, 196, 197
Originally posted by SBS3050L:Svcs from Bedok Int to the west (Clementi / Jurong East / Boon Lay):
7, 14, 30, 66, 196, 197
Yes, that's SIX svcs alr.
And still got the MRT which goes directly straight to the three places above in a single line...
Originally posted by SMB128B:Yes, that's SIX svcs alr.
And still got the MRT which goes directly straight to the three places above in a single line...
Five out of the six have a lot of DDs, only one got no DDs
Unless LTA plan to have bus terminals in Wdl,Tampines North or Loyang areas.
Originally posted by SMB128B:I think Tampines is worst, the newest svc there (20) don't even have a dedicated berth, instead just a sign on a wall and some drawn lines as a berth.
904 at Woodlands Reg Int got same problem. The load now so good, why still no proper queue area? Then everybody anyhow queue...
Service 41R - Eunos Int <> Resorts World Sentosa
Eunos Int
Jln Ubi (uses 154's stop)
Changi Road
Geylang Road
Lor 22 Geylang (new pair of bus stops)
Guillemard Road
Nicoll Highway (Express)
Raffles Boulevard (stops at Pan Pacific Hotel)
Raffles Ave (stops at Singapore Flyer)
Bayfront Ave
Central Boulevard
Shenton Way
Keppel Road (Express)
(Telok Blangah Road)
Sentosa Gateway (Express)
Resorts World Sentosa
Originally posted by TIB 585L:Simple. No new routes to Woodlands,Boon Lay, Tampines and Bedok. These 4 interchange are freaking congested. If got new route to these 4 interchanges then idk wad to say. That person is losing his mind
Just wondering. Since there can be a new roadside bus terminal at Lakeside (Hu Ching Road), can there also be one at Pioneer (for instance, at Jurong West Street 93[at where the construction site was during Boon Lay MRT Extension construction], Jurong West Street 91[at the westernmost HDB estate], etc.)?
Well, I know SBS Transit has been using Jurong West Street 71 as a "waiting area" for buses to be deployed mainly to routes 243W and 243G during peak hours. Maybe LTA should learn from SBS Transit and construct a roadside bus terminal near Pioneer MRT Station, so that new bus routes can be introduced without further congesting Boon Lay Bus Interchange.
On second thought, perhaps LTA should make use of the Soon Lee Bus depot nearby.
After all, when the bus contracts model is implemented, the bus depots would probably all be acquired by the government and be used by bus operators with contracts. (I've mentioned this before. there is a likelihood that 1 bus depot could be used by more than one bus operator) So, why can't LTA create bus routes that originate from bus depot?
Hence, if anyone wants to create bus routes that originates from Boon Lay Bus Interchange, please re-route it to Soon Lee Bus Depot.
Originally posted by Pervertedboy:Just wondering. Since there can be a new roadside bus terminal at Lakeside (Hu Ching Road), can there also be one at Pioneer (for instance, at Jurong West Street 93[at where the construction site was during Boon Lay MRT Extension construction], Jurong West Street 91[at the westernmost HDB estate], etc.)?
Well, I know SBS Transit has been using Jurong West Street 71 as a "waiting area" for buses to be deployed mainly to routes 243W and 243G during peak hours. Maybe LTA should learn from SBS Transit and construct a roadside bus terminal near Pioneer MRT Station, so that new bus routes can be introduced without further congesting Boon Lay Bus Interchange.
On second thought, perhaps LTA should make use of the Soon Lee Bus depot nearby.
After all, when the bus contracts model is implemented, the bus depots would probably all be acquired by the government and be used by bus operators with contracts. (I've mentioned this before. there is a likelihood that 1 bus depot could be used by more than one bus operator) So, why can't LTA create bus routes that originate from bus depot?
Hence, if anyone wants to create bus routes that originates from Boon Lay Bus Interchange, please re-route it to Soon Lee Bus Depot.
That is a very valid point.
In many countries, a lot of bus routes start from depots itself and not always bus stations / interchanges / terminals.
Over here, apart from a very few, depots are not leveraged at all for routes.
SLBP - 185, 502E
HGDEP - none
BBDEP - none
ARBP - none
CGBP - none
BNDEP - 48
AMDEP - 45, 265, 268
BRBP - none
If more services are needed around JIS, Jurong West St 93 etc, can initiate bus from SLBP like 185.
For Tampines, Bedok - interchange already full. Initiate bus from CGBP or BNDEP
For Jurong East, can use BBDEP to start buses
Can also have some services like 115 start at HGDEP instead and loop at Kovan MRT - will make it more useful also
This way also the off-service time for buses can be reduced and ofcourse congestion at interchanges.
Let's have a new direct bus service from punggol to buona vista! How about that?
How about a service start from punggol to bukit panjang?
Originally posted by SBS3050L:Five out of the six have a lot of DDs, only one got no DDs
The one svc (66) can't use DDs iirc.
Siglap Rd actually can built a small terminus there.Yew Tee also.Woodlands a lot of places can built a mini terminus too.
Originally posted by carbikebus:Siglap Rd actually can built a small terminus there.Yew Tee also.Woodlands a lot of places can built a mini terminus too.
If you ask me, they should build a separate terminus exclusively for feeders Intratowns and short haul trunks, with majority bendy lots and some lots for rigids and DDs. Can make the terminus transfer-friendly such as having alighting berths facing the station with walkways, and longer queue berths.
I forgot where, but there is this place which has dedicated int for feeders, and instead of having pax tap in/out on bus and alight, they have these faregates right at the entrance where the pax tap in and out, allowing the pax to board/alight without tapping, allowing faster turnover time and departure (which I think the faregates are great since with distance fares, no matter where u go the starting/ending point will always be the interchange, regardless of the service).
Originally posted by SMB128B:Yes, that's SIX svcs alr.
And still got the MRT which goes directly straight to the three places above in a single line...
Add on:
16, 32
Originally posted by SBS3050L:Add on:
16, 32
They don't reach the 3 places you've mentioned...
Originally posted by SMB128B:If you ask me, they should build a separate terminus exclusively for feeders Intratowns and short haul trunks, with majority bendy lots and some lots for rigids and DDs. Can make the terminus transfer-friendly such as having alighting berths facing the station with walkways, and longer queue berths.
I forgot where, but there is this place which has dedicated int for feeders, and instead of having pax tap in/out on bus and alight, they have these faregates right at the entrance where the pax tap in and out, allowing the pax to board/alight without tapping, allowing faster turnover time and departure (which I think the faregates are great since with distance fares, no matter where u go the starting/ending point will always be the interchange, regardless of the service).
Bigger neighbourhoods like Boon Lay,Woodlands,Tampines etc should have a proper terminal with alighting and boarding facilities just like YCK to AMK.
SBS Transit
Service 137
Boon Lay Interchange ( SLDEP)
to
Yishun Interchange ( AMDEP )
Boon Lay Interchange
First Bus : 0515hrs
Last Bus : 2400hrs
Yishun Interchange
First Bus : 0530hrs
Last Bus : 2345hrs
Boon Lay Way
Jurong West Street 51
Jurong West Avenue 1
Bukit Batok Road
Bukit Panjang Road
BKE ( Express )
Mandai Road
Mandai Avenue
Sembawang Road
Yishun Avenue 5
Yishun Avenue 2
Service 144
Shenton Way Terminal (AMDEP)
To
Punggol Temp Interchange (HGDEP)
Shenton Way Terminal
First Bus : 0600hrs
Last Bus : 2415hrs
Punggol Temp Interchange
First Bus : 0530hrs
Last Bus : 2355hrs
Palmer Road
Anson Road
Robinson Road
Finlayson Green (Express)
Marina Boulevard
Bayfront Avenue
Republic Avenue (Express)
Crawford Street
Kallang Road
Upper Boon Keng Road
Upper Serangoon Road
Sengkang East Drive
Sengkang East Avenue (Express)
Punggol Central
Punggol Place
Service 127
Bishan Interchange (AMDEP)
to
Kent Ridge Terminal
Bishan Interchange
First Bus : 0530hrs
Last Bus : 2330hrs
Kent Ridge Terminal
First Bus : 0600hrs
Last Bus : 2345hrs
Bishan St 11
Bishan Road
Ang Mo Kio Ave 1
Boundary Road
Serangoon Central
Upper Serangoon Road
Upper Paya Lebar Road
Paya Lebar Road
Guillemard Road
Nicoll Highway
Collyer Quay
Shenton Way
Keppel Road
Telok Blangah Road
Pasir Panjang Road
Clementi Road
Originally posted by RyoRennor:Boon Lay Interchange ( SLDEP)
There is no such thing as SLDEP.
Originally posted by SBS3050L:There is no such thing as SLDEP.
Yeah, it's SLBP, since Soon Lee is a bus park only.
Sorry My Mistake
Originally posted by SMB128B:Yeah, it's SLBP, since Soon Lee is a bus park only.
It is a major depot, not a sub-depot.
Service 864 [WAB] [Non-BSEP]
(WLDEP)
Bukit Batok Int - Changi Airport [LOOP]
Frequency: 14 - 23 min (AM/PM Peak), 17 - 26min (Off Peak)
Bus Fleet:
11 Buses
Any Buses (except BSEP)
BBT:
First bus: 0630hrs
Last Bus: 2345hrs
Route:
Bukit Batok Int
Bukit Batok West
Bukit Batok Road
Jurong Town Hall Road
Jurong East Ave 1
Jurong West Ave 1
Jurong West St 51
Boon Lay Way
Toh Guan Road
Jurong East St 13
Boon Lay Way
Commonwealth Ave West
AYE (Express for stops which doesn't serve Hospitals, Flats, Business Building)
Alexendra Road
Telok Blangah Road (Stop at Vivo City bus stop)
Back to AYE after serving Vivo City
ECP
Marina Bay Sands
Back to ECP
(Express all the way to Changi Airport)
Changi PTB 1
Changi PTB 2
Changi PTB 3
ECP
Marina Bay Sands
ECP
Vivo City
Telok Blangah Road
Alexendra Road
AYE
Commonwealth Ave
Commonwealth Ave West
Boon Lay Way
Jurong East St 13
Toh Guan Road
Boon Lay Way
Jurong West St 51
Jurong West Ave 1
Jurong East Ave 1
Jurong Town Hall Road
Bukit Batok Road
Bukit Batok West
Bukit Batok Int
***Allows residents who resides in the west to go to Changi Airport/Marina Bay Sands/Vivo City etc. by bus.
***service from West to Changi.
***Will head to Jurong East instead first becuz BNL Int is quite full, so svc starts from BBT then to JE then to landmarks and Changi.
Pls give me feedback on the route. Thanks...)
Originally posted by SBS3050L:It is a major depot, not a sub-depot.
It's SLBP.
Not a major depot, yes?