Route Suggestions (Part 5)
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Originally posted by SBS5010P:
113 can just extend to buangkok int.. No need to cut short really. 113 and 62 serves a very important role at hougang.
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Originally posted by 23ispolo:
861 (number can be changed) – Sembawang > Jurong East
Sembawang Int
Sembawang Drive
Sembawang Crescent
Admiralty Drive
Canberra Road
Canberra Link
Yishun Ave 2
Yishun Ave 3
Sembawang Road
Mandai Ave
Mandai Road
BKE
KJE
Choa Chu Kang Drive
Choa Chu Kang Ave 4
Choa Chu Kang Ave 1
Teck Whye Lane (reuse bus stops)
Teck Whye Ave
Choa Chu Kang Road
Bukit Batok Road
Jurong Town Hall Road
Jurong East Central
Jurong East Int
Reasons:
- Helps to bring direct connection from CCK to JE, with a better frequency than 160 which is irregular and can have erratic frequencies.
- Helps to bring a new connection from Sembawang and Yishun to CCK and JE (north to west)
- Serves CCK Ave 4 for 300, CCK Ave 1 for 172 and Teck Whye Lane to reuse previous stops on 307
Possible changes:
- Can be amended to Yishun Ave 7
- Can be amended to CCK North 5 (via Woodlands Road) to help 307
- Can be amended to serve BBT to give direct connection to JE.
Any suggestions?
EDITED:
861 - Sembawang > Jurong East
Sembawang Int
Sembawang Drive
Sembawang Crescent
Admiralty Drive
Canberra Road
Canberra Link
Yishun Ave 2
Yishun Ave 3
Sembawang Road
Mandai Ave
Mandai Road
Woodlands Road
Choa Chu Kang North 5
Choa Chu Kang Drive
Choa Chu Kang Ave 4
Choa Chu Kang Ave 1
Teck Whye Lane (reuse bus stops)
Teck Whye Ave
Choa Chu Kang Road
Bukit Batok Road
Bukit Batok West Ave 5
Bukit Batok West Ave 2
Bukit Batok Central (follow 187 route)
Bukit Batok Ave 1
Jurong East Central
Jurong East Int
Note: Edited parts in orange.
Changes:
- Now plies Choa Chu Kang North 5 to relieve 307
- Now plies Bukit Batok West Ave 5, to provide new bus service to Bukit Batok Central and Jurong East, instead of just 945.
Any other suggestions to improve this route?
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Originally posted by lftwo1993:
If there is no space in Hougang Ctrl Int, why not ply this way?
Hougang Ctrl(outside Int)>Ave 4(outside Polyclinic)>Ave 10>Hougang Ctrl(express)>Hougang Ctrl(opp Int)
This way Hougang residents residing along Ave 7 & 5 will have access to the Hougang Polyclinic & the Hougang Sports Complex(within walking distance) as well.
Hi mr lffwo1993, it is not really feasible to have a bus service with 1 looping point and another pt which is not a bus terminal or interchange for obvious reasons. Cheers.
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Originally posted by 23ispolo:
EDITED:
861 - Sembawang > Jurong East
Sembawang Int
Sembawang Drive
Sembawang Crescent
Admiralty Drive
Canberra Road
Canberra Link
Yishun Ave 2
Yishun Ave 3
Sembawang Road
Mandai Ave
Mandai Road
Woodlands Road
Choa Chu Kang North 5
Choa Chu Kang Drive
Choa Chu Kang Ave 4
Choa Chu Kang Ave 1
Teck Whye Lane (reuse bus stops)
Teck Whye Ave
Choa Chu Kang Road
Bukit Batok Road
Bukit Batok West Ave 5
Bukit Batok West Ave 2
Bukit Batok Central (follow 187 route)
Bukit Batok Ave 1
Jurong East Central
Jurong East Int
Note: Edited parts in orange.
Changes:
- Now plies Choa Chu Kang North 5 to relieve 307
- Now plies Bukit Batok West Ave 5, to provide new bus service to Bukit Batok Central and Jurong East, instead of just 945.
Any other suggestions to improve this route?
It is a good route, I would just like to edit it to make it more unique.
Sembawang Interchange
Sembawang Dr (opp Sun Plaza)
Sembawang Way (opp Sembawang MRT)
Canberra Link (Blk 589D)
Yishun Ave 2 (Opp Yishun Sapphire, Mosque)
Yishun Ring Road (all stops until it hits Yishun ave 2 again)
Yishun Ave 2 (Khatib MRT, express)
Lentor Ave (express)
SLE / BKE (express)
Mandai Road (express)
Woodlands Road
CCK North 5 (1 new stop bef st 52)
CCK Way
CCK Ave 3
Brickland Road (1 new stop, express)
Bukit Batok Road (1 stop)
Bukit Batok West Ave 7 (1 new stop opp blk 406, opp blk 336)
BBT St 32 (2 new stops)
BBT st 31 (1 new stop)
BBT West Ave 5 (BGK MRT)
BBT East Ave 5 (Stadium, new stop, Regent Hills, new stop blk 243)
BBT East Ave 4 (express)
BBT East Ave 3 (Blk 229)
Bukit Batok Interchange (last stop)
* There is more need now with MRT lines coming up to provide trunk services to inner roads that do not have it. Yishun ring road has so many new and existing HDB Hubs. There should be at least 2-3 trunk services that should ply this road. Provides connections to both Sembawang & Khatib as well as beyond.
* Trunk has been missing in Yew Tee for years. Hence, proposing this one will travel through North 5 and come down via CCK Way instead of CCK Dr. It will turn right on CCK ave 3 to provide direct link to Bukit Batok. New stop along Brickland Road
* New stops along st 32,31 providing direct connectivity to Bukit Gombak and BBT MRT
* Purposely, this route does not terminate at JE as it becomes too long.
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Originally posted by 23ispolo:
EDITED:
861 - Sembawang > Jurong East
Sembawang Int
Sembawang Drive
Sembawang Crescent
Admiralty Drive
Canberra Road
Canberra Link
Yishun Ave 2
Yishun Ave 3
Sembawang Road
Mandai Ave
Mandai Road
Woodlands Road
Choa Chu Kang North 5
Choa Chu Kang Drive
Choa Chu Kang Ave 4
Choa Chu Kang Ave 1
Teck Whye Lane (reuse bus stops)
Teck Whye Ave
Choa Chu Kang Road
Bukit Batok Road
Bukit Batok West Ave 5
Bukit Batok West Ave 2
Bukit Batok Central (follow 187 route)
Bukit Batok Ave 1
Jurong East Central
Jurong East Int
Note: Edited parts in orange.
Changes:
- Now plies Choa Chu Kang North 5 to relieve 307
- Now plies Bukit Batok West Ave 5, to provide new bus service to Bukit Batok Central and Jurong East, instead of just 945.
Any other suggestions to improve this route?
This one a bit more insane than my previous idea.
Woodlands Rd
CCK Nth 6
CCK Drive (YT MRT)
CCK Nth 7
CCK Way
CCK Nth 5
CCK Dr
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
It is a good route, I would just like to edit it to make it more unique.
Sembawang Interchange
Sembawang Dr (opp Sun Plaza)
Sembawang Way (opp Sembawang MRT)
Canberra Link (Blk 589D)
Yishun Ave 2 (Opp Yishun Sapphire, Mosque)
Yishun Ring Road (all stops until it hits Yishun ave 2 again)
Yishun Ave 2 (Khatib MRT, express)
Lentor Ave (express)
SLE / BKE (express)
Mandai Road (express)
Woodlands Road
CCK North 5 (1 new stop bef st 52)
CCK Way
CCK Ave 3
Brickland Road (1 new stop, express)
Bukit Batok Road (1 stop)
Bukit Batok West Ave 7 (1 new stop opp blk 406, opp blk 336)
BBT St 32 (2 new stops)
BBT st 31 (1 new stop)
BBT West Ave 5 (BGK MRT)
BBT East Ave 5 (Stadium, new stop, Regent Hills, new stop blk 243)
BBT East Ave 4 (express)
BBT East Ave 3 (Blk 229)
Bukit Batok Interchange (last stop)
* There is more need now with MRT lines coming up to provide trunk services to inner roads that do not have it. Yishun ring road has so many new and existing HDB Hubs. There should be at least 2-3 trunk services that should ply this road. Provides connections to both Sembawang & Khatib as well as beyond.
* Trunk has been missing in Yew Tee for years. Hence, proposing this one will travel through North 5 and come down via CCK Way instead of CCK Dr. It will turn right on CCK ave 3 to provide direct link to Bukit Batok. New stop along Brickland Road
* New stops along st 32,31 providing direct connectivity to Bukit Gombak and BBT MRT
* Purposely, this route does not terminate at JE as it becomes too long.
I think that another service can go from Sembawang to HarbourFront, via Yishun Ring Road (the route you suggested from Sembwang to Khatib), Yishun Ave 1, Upper Thomson Road, Thomson Road, Newton Road, Paterson Road, Outram Road and Kampong Bahru Road...
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
It is a good route, I would just like to edit it to make it more unique.
Sembawang Interchange
Sembawang Dr (opp Sun Plaza)
Sembawang Way (opp Sembawang MRT)
Canberra Link (Blk 589D)
Yishun Ave 2 (Opp Yishun Sapphire, Mosque)
Yishun Ring Road (all stops until it hits Yishun ave 2 again)
Yishun Ave 2 (Khatib MRT, express)
Lentor Ave (express)
SLE / BKE (express)
Mandai Road (express)
Woodlands Road
CCK North 5 (1 new stop bef st 52)
CCK Way
CCK Ave 3
Brickland Road (1 new stop, express)
Bukit Batok Road (1 stop)
Bukit Batok West Ave 7 (1 new stop opp blk 406, opp blk 336)
BBT St 32 (2 new stops)
BBT st 31 (1 new stop)
BBT West Ave 5 (BGK MRT)
BBT East Ave 5 (Stadium, new stop, Regent Hills, new stop blk 243)
BBT East Ave 4 (express)
BBT East Ave 3 (Blk 229)
Bukit Batok Interchange (last stop)
* There is more need now with MRT lines coming up to provide trunk services to inner roads that do not have it. Yishun ring road has so many new and existing HDB Hubs. There should be at least 2-3 trunk services that should ply this road. Provides connections to both Sembawang & Khatib as well as beyond.
* Trunk has been missing in Yew Tee for years. Hence, proposing this one will travel through North 5 and come down via CCK Way instead of CCK Dr. It will turn right on CCK ave 3 to provide direct link to Bukit Batok. New stop along Brickland Road
* New stops along st 32,31 providing direct connectivity to Bukit Gombak and BBT MRT
* Purposely, this route does not terminate at JE as it becomes too long.
While we can suggest long inter-town routes for all we want, under LTA's hub-and-spoke model it is unlikely that such new routes will be feasible unless they offer significant time savings or convenience over the MRT. From Sembawang to CCK/BBT, MRT would be faster than this proposed route unless you're taking this service direct without any transfers, which is unlikely since it mostly connects residential areas.
Between Yishun and Yew Tee/CCK/BBT, most ppl would be heading towards industrial estates, schs like ITE College West or the army camps along Sembawang Rd (Khatib Camp, Chong pang camp etc) or at Yew Tee (Kranji Camp II/III, Mowbray camp). Currently, 171 provides a North-Northwest connection between Yishun and Bt Panjang, serving Sembawang Rd and allowing for transfer to other svcs at Bt Panjang. When DTL is opened, 171 section from BPJ to Orchard/Marina Ctr can be removed, and the route extended to CCK and/or Yew Tee/Bt Batok, providing more inter-town connections. At the moment, I don't think a separate North-Northwest bus route is needed, especially since the general link is already provided by MRT.
As for short, regional connections e.g. Yishun-Sembawang or Yew Tee-Bt Batok, these can be better served by short routes within the housing estates themselves or between adjacent estates. I agree with BusAnalyzer that Yishun Ring Rd can have more bus svcs. Maybe 850E can be operated full day to Marina Centre or looping at Suntec, with a peak hour variant to Shenton Way. 860 may be extended to serve the new flats coming up at Canberra in future and terminating at Sembawang, providing another link between Yishun and Sembawang. 103 can be extended from Seletar to Yishun, though may not go via Yishun Ring Rd since it's a bit longer. Most direct route would be via Yishun Ave 11 and Yishun Central.
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Originally posted by 201911:
While we can suggest long inter-town routes for all we want, under LTA's hub-and-spoke model it is unlikely that such new routes will be feasible unless they offer significant time savings or convenience over the MRT. From Sembawang to CCK/BBT, MRT would be faster than this proposed route unless you're taking this service direct without any transfers, which is unlikely since it mostly connects residential areas.
Between Yishun and Yew Tee/CCK/BBT, most ppl would be heading towards industrial estates, schs like ITE College West or the army camps along Sembawang Rd (Khatib Camp, Chong pang camp etc) or at Yew Tee (Kranji Camp II/III, Mowbray camp). Currently, 171 provides a North-Northwest connection between Yishun and Bt Panjang, serving Sembawang Rd and allowing for transfer to other svcs at Bt Panjang. When DTL is opened, 171 section from BPJ to Orchard/Marina Ctr can be removed, and the route extended to CCK and/or Yew Tee/Bt Batok, providing more inter-town connections. At the moment, I don't think a separate North-Northwest bus route is needed, especially since the general link is already provided by MRT.
That was why the original 861 route by me was meant to go from Sembawang to Jurong East, so less people need to change if they need to go to the west. In the original route, I didn't include the Bukit Batok West Ave 5/2 sector (only used Bukit Batok Road), which was purposely done to give passengers a direct alternative from CCK to Jurong East other than the irregular 160. I also used Mandai Road in the route instead of Woodlands, so that CCK (and Bukit Batok) residents could get a new link to Yishun and Sembawang.
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Svc 137 AMK - JE
AMK Int
AMK Ave 8,5,4 (Mayflower MRT),3,1
Marymount Rd (Marymount MRT)
Thompson Rd
Whitley Rd/PIE
PIE
Jln Anak Bukit/Upp Bukit Timah Rd, Jln Jurong Kechil (Beauty World MRT)
PIE
Toh Guan Rd
Boon Lay Way
JE INT
Serves as intra-town in AMK west section. Currently, that section only have 76 and 138 plying internally.
Serves as quick link between Bishan to Bukit Timah, and Bukit Timah to Jurong East. current alternatives between Bishan - Bukit Timah is 74 and 852, and for MRT, Marymount to Botanic Gardens and then 66/67/170/171 down. For Bukit Timah - JE, current alternatives is 52 or 66. For MRT, either to Clementi and take 52/154/184, or to Bukit Batok and take 61/77. Not even the newer MRT lines can connect these areas that fast (especially Bukit Timah - JE)
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Route suggestions for Sembawang residents...
Black line:
SMRT BSEP Service 881 [SBW Int <> Mandai Rd/Wdl Ave 1].Red line:
SMRT BSEP Service 979 [SBW Int > Bt. Panjang Temp. Bus Pk/Jln Kayu].Blue line:
SMRT BSEP Service 979 [Bt. Panjang Temp. Bus Pk/Jln Kayu > SBW Int].
https://mapsengine.google.com/map/viewer?mid=zs70d3gkW184.kRcW4QLIcGkM -
Feeder Bus Rationalisation for Choa Chu Kang (due to new BTOs in Keat Hong).
Rerouted Service 300 (Choa Chu Kang Int - Choa Chu Kang Ave 4)
- Choa Chu Kang Loop (Choa Chu Kang Int)
- Choa Chu Kang Ave 4 (Btwn Blk 416/Blk 417, Blk 426)
- Choa Chu Kang Ave 1 (Blk 403*)
- Choa Chu Kang Ave 3 (Sunshine Pl)
- Choa Chu Kang Ave 4 (Blk 457, Blk 442, Blk 429A CP)
- Choa Chu Kang Loop (Choa Chu Kang Int)
New Service 301 (Choa Chu Kang Int - Choa Chu Kang Ave 2, 5, 6)- Choa Chu Kang Loop (Choa Chu Kang Int)
- Choa Chu Kang Ave 4 [Non-Stop]
- Choa Chu Kang Way (Blk 352, Blk 224)
- Choa Chu Kang Ave 2 (Blk 297D*, Blk 296*)
- Choa Chu Kang Ave 1 (Blk 296A)
- Choa Chu Kang Ave 6 (Btwn Blk 801B/Blk 801C*)
- Choa Chu Kang Ave 5 (Opp Blk 489A*, Blk 486)
- Choa Chu Kang Ave 3 (Opp Sunshine Pl*)
- Choa Chu Kang Ave 4 (Blk 472)
- Choa Chu Kang Ave 5 (Blk 487B, Blk 489A*)
- Choa Chu Kang Ave 6 (Blk 490C*)
- Choa Chu Kang Ave 1 (Blk 488D)
- Choa Chu Kang Ave 2 (Blk 295, Aft Blk 272)
- Choa Chu Kang Way (Blk 277, Blk 414)
- Choa Chu Kang Ave 4 [Non-Stop]
- Choa Chu Kang Loop (Choa Chu Kang Int)
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Originally posted by Rytz:
Feeder Bus Rationalisation for Choa Chu Kang (due to new BTOs in Keat Hong).
Rerouted Service 300 (Choa Chu Kang Int - Choa Chu Kang Ave 4)
- Choa Chu Kang Loop (Choa Chu Kang Int)
- Choa Chu Kang Ave 4 (Btwn Blk 416/Blk 417, Blk 426)
- Choa Chu Kang Ave 1 (Blk 403*)
- Choa Chu Kang Ave 3 (Sunshine Pl)
- Choa Chu Kang Ave 4 (Blk 457, Blk 442, Blk 429A CP)
- Choa Chu Kang Loop (Choa Chu Kang Int)
New Service 301 (Choa Chu Kang Int - Choa Chu Kang Ave 2, 5, 6)- Choa Chu Kang Loop (Choa Chu Kang Int)
- Choa Chu Kang Ave 4 [Non-Stop]
- Choa Chu Kang Way (Blk 352, Blk 224)
- Choa Chu Kang Ave 2 (Blk 297D*, Blk 296*)
- Choa Chu Kang Ave 1 (Blk 296A)
- Choa Chu Kang Ave 6 (Btwn Blk 801B/Blk 801C*)
- Choa Chu Kang Ave 5 (Opp Blk 489A*, Blk 486)
- Choa Chu Kang Ave 3 (Opp Sunshine Pl*)
- Choa Chu Kang Ave 4 (Blk 472)
- Choa Chu Kang Ave 5 (Blk 487B, Blk 489A*)
- Choa Chu Kang Ave 6 (Blk 490C*)
- Choa Chu Kang Ave 1 (Blk 488D)
- Choa Chu Kang Ave 2 (Blk 295, Aft Blk 272)
- Choa Chu Kang Way (Blk 277, Blk 414)
- Choa Chu Kang Ave 4 [Non-Stop]
- Choa Chu Kang Loop (Choa Chu Kang Int)
*Denotes new bus stopI like your suggestion. Very realistic to get implemented. Also provides direct connectivity for ave 2 residents, who have to rely on long winding route of 300 via ave 3-5-4 to get back to CCK MRT.
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The number of people staying in Taman Jurong will increase steadily over the next few years, as new BTO flats are developed there. Although some are on sites of past flats that were demolished, the number of units in the new BTOs are more than the number of units in the original flats. Meanwhile, some (eg. the upcoming one) are on sites that never had flats. With more people in Taman Jurong, the current feeder 240 may be unable to handle.
Likewise for Boon Lay, which also has new BTOs.
I suggest that 240 should be shortened and re-routed to loop within the residential area of Taman Jurong. This should adjust the feeder well to accomodate the increase in population, by serving the new BTOs in TJ while benefit the new BTOs in BL with better service reliability (due to shorter route).
- Current 240 route at Taman jurong
- (proposed changes in pink)
- (deleted sections in yellow)
- Lakeside MRT (#28099)
- Yuan Ching Road
- Kang Ching Road
- Corporation Drive
- Yung Kuang Road
- Corporation Road
- Yung Ho Road
- Yuan Ching Road
- Hu Ching Road
- Corporation Drive
- Yung Ho Road
- Corporation Road
- Jalan Ahmad Ibrahim
- Yung Ho Road
- Corporation Drive
- Kang Ching Road
- Yuan Ching Road
- Lakeside MRT (#28091)
new section: ~2.15kmdeleted section: ~3.02kmAlternative bus services for affected commuters:98 and 246.If possible, it would be good if 240's berth in Boon Lay Bus Interchange can be moved to the end-on berths, so it can use JW Central instead and go directly to Boon Lay Way, without having to go around the temporary bus interchange site. This will shorten the route (further)(by around 800m). -
Originally posted by ButIAmAToilet:
Svc 137 AMK - JE
AMK Int
AMK Ave 8,5,4 (Mayflower MRT),3,1
Marymount Rd (Marymount MRT)
Thompson Rd
Whitley Rd/PIE
PIE
Jln Anak Bukit/Upp Bukit Timah Rd, Jln Jurong Kechil (Beauty World MRT)
PIE
Toh Guan Rd
Boon Lay Way
JE INT
Serves as intra-town in AMK west section. Currently, that section only have 76 and 138 plying internally.
Serves as quick link between Bishan to Bukit Timah, and Bukit Timah to Jurong East. current alternatives between Bishan - Bukit Timah is 74 and 852, and for MRT, Marymount to Botanic Gardens and then 66/67/170/171 down. For Bukit Timah - JE, current alternatives is 52 or 66. For MRT, either to Clementi and take 52/154/184, or to Bukit Batok and take 61/77. Not even the newer MRT lines can connect these areas that fast (especially Bukit Timah - JE)
Not bad. Clever use of the PIE from Thomson Road to Upper Bukit Timah Road. But I think the Upper Bukit Timah Road sector is not really needed, unless you use Clementi Road, AYE and Jurong Town Hall Road...
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Svc 117
Hougang Depot to Changi Business Park (Loop)
Can terminate at future CBP terminal in the future.
Route from Hougang Depot
Defu area
Upp Serangoon new flats
Buangkok MRT
Sengkang MRT
TPE, Exit Tamp Ave 12 like 969
Follow 15 to Tamp Ave 5
Go straight down Simei Ave passing by ITE
Enter CBP and follow 20 and loop back
Advantages
Faster connection from Sengkang to Tampines, can relieve 27's loadings drastically. I think this service can get full fleet DDs as 27's commuters will all flock to this now. 27 can half its fleet and freq can be more stable. Tamp to Airport still have 34 too.
Tampines to CBP direct route, relieve 20's peak hours crazy loadings. 20 will be more for ppl going Simei, while people going to the more populated Tampines will take this.
Relieve 31's loadings from Tamp to ITE
Provide new connections to Defu area (currently no bus svc) and upcoming Upp Serangoon flats area
After TPE bus stop open, 969's loadings will explode as commuters who want fast travel would hop onto any bus in Sengkang/Punggol to TPE bus stop and change 969 directly to Tampines. This svc will relieve loadings for 969.
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Originally posted by shellstation:
Svc 117
Hougang Depot to Changi Business Park (Loop)
Can terminate at future CBP terminal in the future.
Route from Hougang Depot
Defu area
Upp Serangoon new flats
Buangkok MRT
Sengkang MRT
TPE, Exit Tamp Ave 12 like 969
Follow 15 to Tamp Ave 5
Go straight down Simei Ave passing by ITE
Enter CBP and follow 20 and loop back
Advantages
Faster connection from Sengkang to Tampines, can relieve 27's loadings drastically. I think this service can get full fleet DDs as 27's commuters will all flock to this now. 27 can half its fleet and freq can be more stable. Tamp to Airport still have 34 too.
Tampines to CBP direct route, relieve 20's peak hours crazy loadings. 20 will be more for ppl going Simei, while people going to the more populated Tampines will take this.
Relieve 31's loadings from Tamp to ITE
Provide new connections to Defu area (currently no bus svc) and upcoming Upp Serangoon flats area
After TPE bus stop open, 969's loadings will explode as commuters who want fast travel would hop onto any bus in Sengkang/Punggol to TPE bus stop and change 969 directly to Tampines. This svc will relieve loadings for 969.
Hi mr shellstation, good route. Hope it materializes. Cheers.
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Originally posted by shellstation:
Svc 117
Hougang Depot to Changi Business Park (Loop)
Can terminate at future CBP terminal in the future.
Route from Hougang Depot
Defu area
Upp Serangoon new flats
Buangkok MRT
Sengkang MRT
TPE, Exit Tamp Ave 12 like 969
Follow 15 to Tamp Ave 5
Go straight down Simei Ave passing by ITE
Enter CBP and follow 20 and loop back
Advantages
Faster connection from Sengkang to Tampines, can relieve 27's loadings drastically. I think this service can get full fleet DDs as 27's commuters will all flock to this now. 27 can half its fleet and freq can be more stable. Tamp to Airport still have 34 too.
Tampines to CBP direct route, relieve 20's peak hours crazy loadings. 20 will be more for ppl going Simei, while people going to the more populated Tampines will take this.
Relieve 31's loadings from Tamp to ITE
Provide new connections to Defu area (currently no bus svc) and upcoming Upp Serangoon flats area
After TPE bus stop open, 969's loadings will explode as commuters who want fast travel would hop onto any bus in Sengkang/Punggol to TPE bus stop and change 969 directly to Tampines. This svc will relieve loadings for 969.
Very good route... Something similar to what I had proposed earlier. I highly doubt a route would initiate from HGDEP and if it plies Defu, it should do HG MRT. I propose some modifications, providing more connectivity, yet keeping it fast to Tampines.
Sv 47
HG interchange
HG ave 5 (1 stop)
HG ave 7 (3 stops)
Upper Serangoon Rd (2 stops)
Buangkok Dr (2 new stops near Austerville condo, opp Sengkang Fire Station)
Sengkang Central (Buangkok MRT)
Sengkang East Ave (1 stop)
Sengkang East Rd (2 stops)
Sengkang East Way (MRT, bef Punggol rd)
Punggol Rd (1 stop)
TPE interchange stop
Tampines Ave 12 (express)
Tampines Ave 9 (new stop - blk 426)
Tampines st 41 (1 stop)
Tampines ave 4 (MRT, century square)
Tampines ave 5 (1 stop)
Simei (3 stops incl Changi hospital, ITE)
sv 20 route looping @ CBP
* provides Buangkok and HG MRT access to new flats along Upper Serangoon rd and Buangkok dr
* trunk route and MRT connectivity for residents along HG ave 5/7
* direct MRT stop at compass point since 27 stop is far from MRT, promoting more ppl to take Sv 47
* TPE and Punggol rd stop to get fast to Tampines
* MRT and Tampines 4/5 connectivity to flats along st 41 and ave 9 (new stop)
* additional trunk connectivity to poorly connected ITE, Changi hospital and CBP hubs
* route can have 80% DDs and Sv 27 fleet can be cut down to 20 buses from 32 buses with Sv 47 having dedicated 14 DDs, 4 SDs (fleet of 18 buses)
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Yet another AMK to god_knows_where route
Svc 129/129M YCK - Changi Ferry Rd
YCK TER (YCK MRT)
AMK Ave 6,9,St 63,65
YCK Rd (Lentor MRT)
AMK Ave 4,5 (NYP), 10,3
YCK Rd
S'goon Ctrl, Upp S'goon Rd (S'goon MRT)
Bartley Rd (Bartley MRT)
Bartley Rd East (Express)
Tamp Ave 10,1 (TP), 4 (Tamp West/Tamp MRT), 7 (Tamp East MRT)
Loyang Ave
Telok Paku Rd
Nicoll Dr
Changi Coast/Ferry Rd
(129 only) Changi Coast Rd, Alps Ave, Airline Rd
129M returns via Changu Coast Rd
During AM Peak, 129 will skip following stops
Tamp Ave 7 - Blk 423, Blk 449, Tamp JC, Blk 497D
Loyang Ave - Blk 149A, Blk 275, After PSR Dr 3, Opp Loyang Valley, Bef Sch of Commando, Bef Cranwell Rd, Opp Maranatha B-P Church, After Changi Golf Course
Telok Paku Rd - Bef SG Aviation Acadamy
Nicoll Dr - Changi Beach CP 3, Changi Beach CP 4, Changi Beach CP 5
During PM Peak, 129 will skips the stops in opp direction only
129M to serve all stops in express sector
Pros
Link YCK/Lentor MRT to AMK St 65
Link Lentor MRT/AMK Ave 3/S'goon Nth to NYP
Link S'goon/Bartley MRT to TP/Tamp
Link Tamp West MRT with TP
Serve full stretch of Tamp Ave 4
Express from Tamp to Loyang/Changi
Cons
AMK sector too long
Duplicates with Svc 19
I think the pros of this route lies with its AMK Intra-Town, S'goon - Tamp and Tamp to Loyang/Changi Ferry/Alps Ave. Yes, I am aware it duplicates 19 (because it is one of two routes to Changi, other being Upp Changi Rd Nth, which is less direct). So its peak route is made express to get different loads from 19, despite being on the same route. 129M is more of a school bus svc, fetching people to NYP, TP and Changi Ferry. While 129 is more for industrial, 129M is more for residental. However, 129 can also serve 129M's needs, and vice-versa
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
Blah blah blah blah...Rude. Very Rude. Self proclaimed BusAnalayzer.
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860 actually can start from Sembawang come out from Yishun Ave 1 then loop at its originallooping point.. 861 Sembawang-Bukit Batok enough..I dont think theres enough space for SMRT svc there
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Originally posted by SBS5010P:
113 can just extend to buangkok int.. No need to cut short really. 113 and 62 serves a very important role at hougang.
I think in future 112 & 113 will start from Buangkok looping at Hougang Central -
Originally posted by SBS5010P:
Rude. Very Rude. Self proclaimed BusAnalayzer.
Well..
1. The only thing u can talk about is how great service 113 is
2. How badly SBST/LTA treat Sv 113
3. How only u find 113 always packed to door.. Whenever anyone else has taken the service, there has been enough space even during peak (multiple users here have taken it given ur constant ranting)
4. 113 needs DDs (May be u wrote 1000 posts just on that). Even if some of us agree 113 needs a fleet add or crossover during peak, we are totally bored to hear anything more on 113
5. How u have said DDs on 101 is waste and should be given to 113 (countless such examples)
so for me if u again want to post about 113 and think we haven't had/heard enough of it... U r just blah blah blah..
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Originally posted by 201911:
While we can suggest long inter-town routes for all we want, under LTA's hub-and-spoke model it is unlikely that such new routes will be feasible unless they offer significant time savings or convenience over the MRT. From Sembawang to CCK/BBT, MRT would be faster than this proposed route unless you're taking this service direct without any transfers, which is unlikely since it mostly connects residential areas.
Between Yishun and Yew Tee/CCK/BBT, most ppl would be heading towards industrial estates, schs like ITE College West or the army camps along Sembawang Rd (Khatib Camp, Chong pang camp etc) or at Yew Tee (Kranji Camp II/III, Mowbray camp). Currently, 171 provides a North-Northwest connection between Yishun and Bt Panjang, serving Sembawang Rd and allowing for transfer to other svcs at Bt Panjang. When DTL is opened, 171 section from BPJ to Orchard/Marina Ctr can be removed, and the route extended to CCK and/or Yew Tee/Bt Batok, providing more inter-town connections. At the moment, I don't think a separate North-Northwest bus route is needed, especially since the general link is already provided by MRT.
Thanks, I'll take that in mind. ;) Instead of North-Northwest, now I propose Central-Northwest-West from the northern corridor. Hence amendments to my old route:
SBST Service 210 - Bishan Int - Bt Batok Bus Depot
- Bishan St 13 (NS17 Bishan)
- Bishan St 11
- Bishan Rd
- Braddell Rd
- CTE (Express)
- AMK Ave 5
- AMK Ave 6 (NS15 Yio Chu Kang)
- Lentor Ave
- SLE (Express)
- Upp Thomson Rd
- Sembawang Rd
- Mandai Ave
- Mandai Rd
- BKE (Express)
- KJE (Express)
- Woodlands Rd
- Stagmont Ring (Non-stop)
- CCK Link (Non-stop)
- CCK North 6
- CCK Dr (NS5 Yew Tee)
- CCK North 7
- CCK Way
- CCK Ave 4 (NS4 Choa Chu Kang)
- CCK Ave 3
- Brickland Rd (Non-stop)
- Bt Batok Rd
- Bt Batok West Ave 3
- Bt Batok Ctrl (NS2 Bukit Batok)
- Bt Batok East Ave 3
- Bt Batok St 23
Now it connects residential areas to educational institutes (Millenia Inst, BP Govt High, AJC, Nanyang Poly) and camps (Kranji / Mowbray, Mandai, Nee Soon).It's SMRT's fault for insistence on not adding trunk services to Yew Tee (compare SBST's efforts in western Toa Payoh and Sengkang), so this is also a reason why I choose SBS to operate this route, at least for now. To hell with the SMRT town-control in CCK, whatever it's called. It's LTA's era now. (There were quite some complaints in this thread as well)210 serves Braddell Rd / CTE, YCK MRT and Bt Batok Rd instead of Bishan Rd, AMK MRT and Bt Batok West Ave 2 to avoid unnecessary route repetition (especially with 50 / 138), to provide links previously less available, and to make the journey faster (hopefully; I'm not an expert on traffic flow around YCK / CTE).The length of the route may be a problem. Hence possible short trip 210M from Yio Chu Kang Int to Yew Tee.(Initially I wanted to designate the route to be 129, but turns out that one's kinda popular, so well ...
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
Well..
1. The only thing u can talk about is how great service 113 is
2. How badly SBST/LTA treat Sv 113
3. How only u find 113 always packed to door.. Whenever anyone else has taken the service, there has been enough space even during peak (multiple users here have taken it given ur constant ranting)
4. 113 needs DDs (May be u wrote 1000 posts just on that). Even if some of us agree 113 needs a fleet add or crossover during peak, we are totally bored to hear anything more on 113
5. How u have said DDs on 101 is waste and should be given to 113 (countless such examples)
so for me if u again want to post about 113 and think we haven't had/heard enough of it... U r just blah blah blah..
Like I said, some people just need to learn to be careful what they post here... (I'm not purely refering to SBS5010P here though)
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Originally posted by SBS5010P:
Rude. Very Rude. Self proclaimed BusAnalayzer.
I agree... It's as rude as rolling your eyes at someone.