Route Suggestions (Part 5)

• ButIAmAToilet

  17 Aug 14, 15:30

  Originally posted by 23ispolo:

  Okay, my extended version of 140 (Eunos > Bukit Merah):

  Eunos Int

  Sims Ave

  Still Road

  Marine Parade Road

  Mountbatten Road

  Haig Road (2-3 pairs of new bus stops)

  Dunman Road

  Old Airport Road

  Stadium Blvd/Dr (when new bus stops are ready for 16)

  Nicoll Highway

  Raffles Blvd (Pan Pacific Hotel)

  Temasek Ave

  Bayfront Ave

  Central Blvd

  Shenton Way

  Keppel Road

  Telok Blangah Road

  Henderson Road

  Bukit Merah Int

  Any other suggestions to improve this route?

  Revisit of Ispolo's Eunos to BM

  Merging of 531 and Ispolo's route

  Tamp - BM

  Tamp Int (Tamp MRT)

  Tamp Ave 7,9,2,St 31

  Simei Rd,St 3 (Simei MRT),Ave (ITE East),Upp Changi Rd East

  Bedok Rd, Upp East Coast Rd (Sungei Bedok,Bedok South MRT)

  Bedok South Ave 1, M Parade Rd (Siglap, M Terrace MRT), Still Rd South

  ECP

  Rocher Rd, Temasek,Raffles Blvd, Temasek Ave/Raffles Ave, Nicoll H'way, Raffles,Temasek Blvd, Ave (Promenade MRT), Raffles, Republic Blvd

  Bayfront Ave (Bayfront MRT)

  Central (Downtown MRT)/Marina Blvd

  Raffles Quay,Shenton Way(Shenton Way MRT)/Anson Rd(Tanjong Pagar MRT), Robinson Rd (Raffles Place MRT), Finlayson Green

  Keppel Rd, Telok Blangah Rd (HBF MRT), Henderson Rd, BM Ctrl

  BM Int

• BusAnalayzer

  17 Aug 14, 15:39

  Originally posted by ButIAmAToilet:

  Revisit of Ispolo's Eunos to BM

  Merging of 531 and Ispolo's route

  Tamp - BM

  Tamp Int (Tamp MRT)

  Tamp Ave 7,9,2,St 31

  Simei Rd,St 3 (Simei MRT),Ave (ITE East),Upp Changi Rd East

  Bedok Rd, Upp East Coast Rd (Sungei Bedok,Bedok South MRT)

  Bedok South Ave 1, M Parade Rd (Siglap, M Terrace MRT), Still Rd South

  ECP

  Rocher Rd, Temasek,Raffles Blvd, Temasek Ave/Raffles Ave, Nicoll H'way, Raffles,Temasek Blvd, Ave (Promenade MRT), Raffles, Republic Blvd

  Bayfront Ave (Bayfront MRT)

  Central (Downtown MRT)/Marina Blvd

  Raffles Quay,Shenton Way(Shenton Way MRT)/Anson Rd(Tanjong Pagar MRT), Robinson Rd (Raffles Place MRT), Finlayson Green

  Keppel Rd, Telok Blangah Rd (HBF MRT), Henderson Rd, BM Ctrl

  BM Int

  This seems like a good express route to get into CBD and beyond. Plus caters to some of the highly dense areas and utilities within the East. If such a route is implemented, for sure need DDs in peak direction, SD in opposite direction.

• dupdup77

  17 Aug 14, 15:55

  Originally posted by ButIAmAToilet:

  Revisit of Ispolo's Eunos to BM

  Merging of 531 and Ispolo's route

  Tamp - BM

  Tamp Int (Tamp MRT)

  Tamp Ave 7,9,2,St 31

  Simei Rd,St 3 (Simei MRT),Ave (ITE East),Upp Changi Rd East

  Bedok Rd, Upp East Coast Rd (Sungei Bedok,Bedok South MRT)

  Bedok South Ave 1, M Parade Rd (Siglap, M Terrace MRT), Still Rd South

  ECP

  Rocher Rd, Temasek,Raffles Blvd, Temasek Ave/Raffles Ave, Nicoll H'way, Raffles,Temasek Blvd, Ave (Promenade MRT), Raffles, Republic Blvd

  Bayfront Ave (Bayfront MRT)

  Central (Downtown MRT)/Marina Blvd

  Raffles Quay,Shenton Way(Shenton Way MRT)/Anson Rd(Tanjong Pagar MRT), Robinson Rd (Raffles Place MRT), Finlayson Green

  Keppel Rd, Telok Blangah Rd (HBF MRT), Henderson Rd, BM Ctrl

  BM Int

  Hi mr ButIAmAToilet, change tampines to pasir ris int perhaps. There is no space in tampines bus int after sbs 4 and 20 are introduced. Cheers. 

• carbikebus

  17 Aug 14, 15:58

  Can help me with the proposed routes? Boon Lay to Ang Mo Kio Hougang depot to St Michaels Pasir Ris to Alps Ave Changi Village to Jurong East Tampines to Bukit Batok(SBST) Joo Koon to Jurong Island Terminal SMRT Amdep to Jurong East Kranji MRT to Sembawang Yishun to Choa Chu Kang Sembawang to Bukit Batok
• 23ispolo

  17 Aug 14, 19:43

  Originally posted by carbikebus:

  Can help me with the proposed routes? Boon Lay to Ang Mo Kio Hougang depot to St Michaels Pasir Ris to Alps Ave Changi Village to Jurong East Tampines to Bukit Batok(SBST) Joo Koon to Jurong Island Terminal

  SMRT Amdep to Jurong East
                Kranji MRT to Sembawang
                Yishun to Choa Chu Kang
                Sembawang to Bukit Batok
                

  For two routes:

  Route 1:

  861 = Yishun > Choa Chu Kang 

  Yishun Int

  Yishun Central

  Yishun Ave 3

  Sembawang Road

  Mandai Ave/Road

  Woodlands Road

  Stagmont Ring/Choa Chu Kang Link (buses u-turn at Woodlands Road to turn into this road)

  Choa Chu Kang North 6

  Choa Chu Kang Drive

  Choa Chu Kang North 7

  Choa Chu Kang Link

  Choa Chu Kang Int

  Route 2:

  982 = Sembawang > Bukit Batok

  Sembawang Int

  Sembawang Drive

  Sembawang Way

  Canberra Link

  Yishun Ave 2

  Yishun St 21

  Yishun Central

  Yishun Ave 2

  Yishun Ave 3

  Sembawang Road

  Mandai Ave/Road

  BKE

  KJE

  Choa Chu Kang Drive

  Choa Chu Kang Ave 4

  Choa Chu Kang Ave 1

  Teck Whye Lane

  Teck Whye Ave

  Choa Chu Kang Road

  Bukit Batok Road

  Bukit Batok West Ave 5

  Bukit Batok West Ave 2

  Bukit Batok Central

  Bukit Batok Int - can extend to Jurong East Int...

• carbikebus

  17 Aug 14, 20:48

  982 should be from CCK. 861 seems fine. Sbw-Cck should use 986
• mwhale7886

  17 Aug 14, 22:39

  SBS Transit Trunk 164

  [Punggol Temp Int. <-> Bedok Temp. Int.]

  Punggol Temp. Int.

  Punggol Place

  Punggol Field

  Punggol Way

  Sumang Link 

  Sentul Crescent

  Punggol Drive

  Punggol East

  Punggol Central

  Punggol Road

  TPE

  Tampines Ave 10

  Bartley Rd East

  Bedok North Road

  Bedok Reservoir Road

  Bedok North Ave 3

  Bedok North Road

  Bedok North Ave 1

  Bedok North Int.

  Bedok Int.

  Here is the Map.

   

• ButIAmAToilet

  17 Aug 14, 23:57

  Originally posted by carbikebus:

  Can help me with the proposed routes? Boon Lay to Ang Mo Kio Hougang depot to St Michaels Pasir Ris to Alps Ave Changi Village to Jurong East Tampines to Bukit Batok(SBST) Joo Koon to Jurong Island Terminal

  SMRT Amdep to Jurong East
                Kranji MRT to Sembawang
                Yishun to Choa Chu Kang
                Sembawang to Bukit Batok
                

  BL - AMK via Jln Buroh, Toh Guan, PIE, Marymount Rd

  Hougang Depot - St Micheals via Lor Ah Soo, S'goon, TPY, Boon Keng

  Pasir Ris - Alps Ave via 89 route (it is the only route there)

  CV - JE via Loyang, Tamp, Bartley, Lornie, Holland V, Dover, West Coast, Pandan

  Tamp - BBK via Kaki Bukit, McPhearson, Jln Besar, Holland Rd, Clementi

  Maybe I give more in-depth routes next time

• BusAnalayzer

  18 Aug 14, 16:03

  sv 113: Serangoon Interchange loop @ Fernvale Rd

  Serangoon Interchange

  Upper Serangoon Road (2 stops)

  Upper Paya Lebar Road (1 stop)

  Lor Ah Soo (3 stops)

  HG Ave 1 (3 stops)

  HG St 21 (2 stops)

  Upper Serangoon Rd (3 stops)

  HG Ave 2 (1 stop)

  HG Ave 10 (3 stops)

  HG Ave 6 (1 stop)

  HG Ave 8 (2 stops)

  Upper Serangoon Rd (2 stops)

  Buangkok Dr (3 new stops)

  Sengkang Central (BGK MRT)

  Sengkang East Ave (2 stops)

  Anchorvale Link (1 new stop)

  Anchorvale Dr (1 stop)

  Anchorvale Lane (1 new stop)

  Sengkang West Ave (1 stop)

  Fernvale Link (1 new stop)

  Sengkang West Way (1 stop)

  Fernvale Rd (2 new stops)

  Buangkok Dr (express)

  Fernvale Link (1 new stop)

  Sengkang West Way ... and service continues back to Serangoon.

  * Connects newly developing town of Fernvale to Buangkok MRT

  * Connects Buangkok MRT to Buangkok Dr & Upper Serangoon Rd

  * Provides alternative for Upper Serangoon Rd new flats to HG MRT + new connection for BGK Dr residents to HG MRT

  * Provides connection to Serangoon MRT for Lor Ah Soo/HG Ave 1 residents (removing 53A/53B and 45A, replacing with full day service like 123M for 113M) 

• ButIAmAToilet

  19 Aug 14, 23:33

  Originally posted by ButIAmAToilet:

  BL - AMK via Jln Buroh, Toh Guan, PIE, Marymount Rd

  Hougang Depot - St Micheals via Lor Ah Soo, S'goon, TPY, Boon Keng

  Pasir Ris - Alps Ave via 89 route (it is the only route there)

  CV - JE via Loyang, Tamp, Bartley, Lornie, Holland V, Dover, West Coast, Pandan

  Tamp - BBK via Kaki Bukit, McPhearson, Jln Besar, Holland Rd, Clementi

  Maybe I give more in-depth routes next time

  Added another St Micheal's - Kovan (Loop)

  Via KK Hosp, Little India, Boon Keng, Aljunied, McPherson, Ubi, Defu

• array88

  20 Aug 14, 01:37

  Service 18 (amended to ply Tampines Industrial Park A)

  Tampines Int

  Tampines Ctrl 3

  Tampines Ave 7

  Tampines Ave 2

  Tampines Ave 1

  Tampines St 92

  Tampines St 94 (clockwise loop)

  Tampines St 92

  Tampines Ave 1

  Bedok Reservoir Rd

  [continues on existing route to Bedok Temp Int and loop back]

  Bedok Reservoir Rd

  Tampines Ave 1 (skipping bus stop opp SAFRA Tampines)

  Tampines St 92

  Tampines St 94 (clockwise loop)

  Tampines St 92

  Tampines Ave 1

  Tampines Ave 2

  Tampines Ave 7

  Tampines Ctrl 3

  Tampines Int

   

  - Serves Tampines Industrial Park A (St 92 area) and also improves utility of svc 18

  - As a sector of Tampines St 92 is unidirectional, the loop inside Ind Pk A has to be clockwise in both directions. Hence red and white plates will be used for svc 18.

  - There used to be a peak hour svc 68 that plied Tampines Ind Pk A which was withdrawn due to low demand, so I am uncertain about the loading if svc 18 is modified this way. The suggested route can also be numbered 18M which only operates during peak hours.

• carbikebus

  20 Aug 14, 08:17

  18 cannot kacau la bro..The best extend to Pasir Ris.New svc 68 from Eunos loop at Tamp St 92 as you suggest..Eunos also got 60,63.
• BusAnalayzer

  20 Aug 14, 14:44

  sv 108: Pasir Ris Interchange loop @ Loyang Lane

  Pasir Ris Interchange

  Pasir Ris Central (1 stop)

  Pasir Ris Dr 1 (3 stops)

  Pasir Ris St 12 (1 new stop @blk 192)

  Pasir Ris St 11 (2 stops)

  Pasir Ris Dr 2 (1 stop)

  Loyang Way (new stop @ Loyang Depot)

  Loyang Dr (3 new stops @Opp Comfort Delgro Engineering, Ns Tang, Opp Moki marine Engineering)

  Loyang St (1 new stop @Rittal)

  Loyang Lane (1 new stop @Young Heng Paper)

  Loyang Dr (1 new stop @Toprint)

  Loyang Way (new stop @ Loyang Depot)

  Pasir Ris Dr 2 (1 stop)

  Pasir Ris St 11 (2 new stops)

  Pasir Ris St 12 (1 new stop)

  Pasir Ris Dr 1 (3 stops)

  Pasir Ris Central (1 stop)

  Pasir Ris Interchange

  * Connects lower sector of Loyang Industrial that has no bus service (very surprising that SBST has not introduced a service for this area inspite of high popularity of sv 6)

  * Two way loading as it plies highly residential area of Pasir Ris Dr 2, st 11 and st 12 that do not have many alternatives to MRT (new stop along st 12 will provide doorstep bus service to HDB blocks there)

  * Service will provide some relief to heavily crowded services like 359 and 6. Also faster than sv 359 to MRT for st 11/12 residents

  * Fleet of 6 buses (3 DDs, 3 Citaros)

  * Service under BSEP

• carbikebus

  20 Aug 14, 16:45

  PSR should use other numbers unless it terminate at CV..So obiang leh..Maybe no 1 can
• BusAnalayzer

  20 Aug 14, 17:40

  Originally posted by carbikebus:

  PSR should use other numbers unless it terminate at CV..So obiang leh..Maybe no 1 can

  There is no number categorization anymore... 49 should have been UEC but is Taman Jurong.. 

  4 should have been long distance trunk... but is short route to Flora..

  LTA uses numerology to determine bus number.. ha ha

• carbikebus

  20 Aug 14, 18:38

  Maybe 49 got plans for reroute..Who knows SL might introduce 4x series?
• JurongWestresident

  20 Aug 14, 18:43

  Over at Jurong West Extension, I would like to suggest a change in feeder routes 242 and 243.

  1. New 243 (White) (Green route is just opposite of this)
  2. Boon Lay Bus Interchange 
  3. Jurong West Central 3
  4. Jurong West Street 64
  5. Jurong West Street 62
  6. Jurong West Street 61
  7. Jurong West Street 71
  8. Jurong West Street 81
  9. Jurong West Street 82
  10. Jurong West Street 75
  11. Jurong West Avenue 4
  12. Jalan Boon Lay
  13. Jurong West Central 1
  14. Jurong West Street 64
  15. Jurong West Central 3
  16. Boon Lay Bus Interchange

  1. New 242
  2. Boon Lay Bus Interchange
  3. Jurong West Central 3
  4. Jurong West Street 64
  5. Jurong West Avenue 4
  6. Jurong West Street 72
  7. Jurong West Avenue 5
  8. Pioneer Road North
  9. Jurong West Avenue 4
  10. Jurong West Street 61
  11. Jurong West Street 63 (Pioneer MRT Station)
  12. Pioneer Road North
  13. Jurong West Avenue 5
  14. Jurong West Street 72
  15. Jurong West Avenue 4
  16. Jurong West Street 64
  17. Jurong West Central 3
  18. Boon Lay Bus Interchange

  

  In my opinion, I think I know why 243 and 181 has been heavily utilised at Jurong West Street 64 and 75. The reason could be because people in N6/N7 feels that 243 and 181 are more direct, as compared to 242. As a result, there are people who are actually under 242's coverage but they go and take 243 or 181. This may be the reason why 243 and 181 seems to be under-supplied. 

  If we let 242 provide a direct bus connection to Street 72 from Boon Lay, those under 242's coverage will really go and take 242. Meanwhile, the re-routed 242 can provide N7 and N8 people a bus connection to Pioneer MRT Station. The connection to Pioneer MRT may help to relieve some load over at Street 64, which may bring about another benefit, which is that the loading on buses at Street 64 and 75 may be reduced. 

  Meanwhile, at Gek Poh and Street 82, even with the re-route of 243, there's still 181 providing direct bus connection to/fro Boon Lay. Whereas at Street 81, the route to Boon Lay (via Pioneer Mall) will become shorter, which means a shorter ride for commuters going there. 

• BusAnalayzer

  20 Aug 14, 19:47

  Originally posted by JurongWestresident:

  Over at Jurong West Extension, I would like to suggest a change in feeder routes 242 and 243.

  1. New 243 (White) (Green route is just opposite of this)
  2. Boon Lay Bus Interchange 
  3. Jurong West Central 3
  4. Jurong West Street 64
  5. Jurong West Street 62
  6. Jurong West Street 61
  7. Jurong West Street 71
  8. Jurong West Street 81
  9. Jurong West Street 82
  10. Jurong West Street 75
  11. Jurong West Avenue 4
  12. Jalan Boon Lay
  13. Jurong West Central 1
  14. Jurong West Street 64
  15. Jurong West Central 3
  16. Boon Lay Bus Interchange

  1. New 242
  2. Boon Lay Bus Interchange
  3. Jurong West Central 3
  4. Jurong West Street 64
  5. Jurong West Avenue 4
  6. Jurong West Street 72
  7. Jurong West Avenue 5
  8. Pioneer Road North
  9. Jurong West Avenue 4
  10. Jurong West Street 61
  11. Jurong West Street 63 (Pioneer MRT Station)
  12. Pioneer Road North
  13. Jurong West Avenue 5
  14. Jurong West Street 72
  15. Jurong West Avenue 4
  16. Jurong West Street 64
  17. Jurong West Central 3
  18. Boon Lay Bus Interchange

  

  In my opinion, I think I know why 243 and 181 has been heavily utilised at Jurong West Street 64 and 75. The reason could be because people in N6/N7 feels that 243 and 181 are more direct, as compared to 242. As a result, there are people who are actually under 242's coverage but they go and take 243 or 181. This may be the reason why 243 and 181 seems to be under-supplied. 

  If we let 242 provide a direct bus connection to Street 72 from Boon Lay, those under 242's coverage will really go and take 242. Meanwhile, the re-routed 242 can provide N7 and N8 people a bus connection to Pioneer MRT Station. The connection to Pioneer MRT may help to relieve some load over at Street 64, which may bring about another benefit, which is that the loading on buses at Street 64 and 75 may be reduced. 

  Meanwhile, at Gek Poh and Street 82, even with the re-route of 243, there's still 181 providing direct bus connection to/fro Boon Lay. Whereas at Street 81, the route to Boon Lay (via Pioneer Mall) will become shorter, which means a shorter ride for commuters going there. 

  IMO, current bus fleet on 181/243 are taking care of loading well... Have bus every 05 mins. 

  For 242, AM peak is still okay.. PM queue at Boon Lay gets quite long.. Can have 1-2 DD crossover from 179A post 6pm. Problem should be resolved.

• SBS 9256 X

  20 Aug 14, 23:36

  Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:

  IMO, current bus fleet on 181/243 are taking care of loading well... Have bus every 05 mins. 

  For 242, AM peak is still okay.. PM queue at Boon Lay gets quite long.. Can have 1-2 DD crossover from 179A post 6pm. Problem should be resolved.

  I agree with what BusAnalayzer says.

  As for my opinion, I would rather have Svc 243 serving St 71 and then Svc 242 serving Pioneer Road North & Jurong West Ave 4 (Loop)

  So it is this way:

  Svc 242

  Booon Lay Interchange
  Jurong West Central 1
  Jalan Boon Lay
  Jurong West Ave 4
  Jurong West St 72
  Jurong West Ave 5
  Pioneer Rd North
  Jurong West Ave 4
  Jalan Boon Lay
  Jurong West Central 1
  Boon Lay Interchange

   

  Svc 243 (Green/White)
  Boon Lay Interchange - Boon Lay Interchange
  Jurong West St 64 - Jurong West St 62
  Jurong West St 75 - Jurong West St 61
  Jurong West St 82 - Jurong West St 71
  Jurong West St 81 - Jurong West St 81
  Jurong West St 71 - Jurong West St 82
  Jurong West St 61 - Jurong West St 75
  Jurong West St 62 - Jurong West St 64
  Boon Lay Interchange - Boon Lay Interchange

• ButIAmAToilet

  20 Aug 14, 23:37

  Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:

  sv 108: Pasir Ris Interchange loop @ Loyang Lane

  Pasir Ris Interchange

  Pasir Ris Central (1 stop)

  Pasir Ris Dr 1 (3 stops)

  Pasir Ris St 12 (1 new stop @blk 192)

  Pasir Ris St 11 (2 stops)

  Pasir Ris Dr 2 (1 stop)

  Loyang Way (new stop @ Loyang Depot)

  Loyang Dr (3 new stops @Opp Comfort Delgro Engineering, Ns Tang, Opp Moki marine Engineering)

  Loyang St (1 new stop @Rittal)

  Loyang Lane (1 new stop @Young Heng Paper)

  Loyang Dr (1 new stop @Toprint)

  Loyang Way (new stop @ Loyang Depot)

  Pasir Ris Dr 2 (1 stop)

  Pasir Ris St 11 (2 new stops)

  Pasir Ris St 12 (1 new stop)

  Pasir Ris Dr 1 (3 stops)

  Pasir Ris Central (1 stop)

  Pasir Ris Interchange

  * Connects lower sector of Loyang Industrial that has no bus service (very surprising that SBST has not introduced a service for this area inspite of high popularity of sv 6)

  * Two way loading as it plies highly residential area of Pasir Ris Dr 2, st 11 and st 12 that do not have many alternatives to MRT (new stop along st 12 will provide doorstep bus service to HDB blocks there)

  * Service will provide some relief to heavily crowded services like 359 and 6. Also faster than sv 359 to MRT for st 11/12 residents

  * Fleet of 6 buses (3 DDs, 3 Citaros)

  * Service under BSEP

  1/2 of me like the route as it connects St 12, and have a semi-feeder link from N1 East to Loyang Point. But most of the blocks there are within walking distance to Dr 1. From Dr 1, you got at least 4 services to Pasir Ris MRT (7 if routes towards Int are counted)

  The other half of me thinks that we can just extend 359 so it can serve bi-directional at St 11. There is one section with very bad connections, which is the Blk 124-137 area. Even if we don't amend 359's route, there should at least a bus stop there (South side of Loyang Sec). The nearest stop to them is Loyang Sec stop, and if not taking 359, Blk 115 stop, which is quite far (when young, I used to hang out there, it is quite a distance to walk). Compared to the east half of N1, where residents still have access to Loyang Ave.

• SBS 9256 X

  20 Aug 14, 23:44

  Since Punggol Feeder is 38x... Why not introduce...

  Svc 382

  Punggol Interchange - Punggol Road End (Loop)
  Via
  Punggol Place
  Punggol Field
  Edgefield Plains
  Punggol Drive
  Punggol Road (End) (Loop)
  Punggol Drive
  Edgefield Plains
  Punggol Field
  Punggol Place

  Svc 384 (Renumbered from Svc 84)
  Punggol Interchange - Punggol Road End (Loop)
  Via
  Punggol Place
  Punggol Walk
  Sentul Crescent
  Punggol Central
  Punggol Road (End) (Loop)
  Punggol Crescent
  Sentul Crescent
  Punggol Walk
  Punggol Place

• dupdup77

  21 Aug 14, 02:40

  Originally posted by SBS 9256 X:

  Since Punggol Feeder is 38x... Why not introduce...

  Svc 382

  Punggol Interchange - Punggol Road End (Loop)
  Via
  Punggol Place
  Punggol Field
  Edgefield Plains
  Punggol Drive
  Punggol Road (End) (Loop)
  Punggol Drive
  Edgefield Plains
  Punggol Field
  Punggol Place

  Svc 384 (Renumbered from Svc 84)
  Punggol Interchange - Punggol Road End (Loop)
  Via
  Punggol Place
  Punggol Walk
  Sentul Crescent
  Punggol Central
  Punggol Road (End) (Loop)
  Punggol Crescent
  Sentul Crescent
  Punggol Walk
  Punggol Place

  Hi mr SBS9256X, as of now, no real demand to get 2 services to Punggol road end albeit with a slight variation in route. 1 service is currently more than enough to handle Punggol road end. Cheers.

• BusAnalayzer

  21 Aug 14, 03:39

  Originally posted by ButIAmAToilet:

  1/2 of me like the route as it connects St 12, and have a semi-feeder link from N1 East to Loyang Point. But most of the blocks there are within walking distance to Dr 1. From Dr 1, you got at least 4 services to Pasir Ris MRT (7 if routes towards Int are counted)

  The other half of me thinks that we can just extend 359 so it can serve bi-directional at St 11. There is one section with very bad connections, which is the Blk 124-137 area. Even if we don't amend 359's route, there should at least a bus stop there (South side of Loyang Sec). The nearest stop to them is Loyang Sec stop, and if not taking 359, Blk 115 stop, which is quite far (when young, I used to hang out there, it is quite a distance to walk). Compared to the east half of N1, where residents still have access to Loyang Ave.

  Sv 359 will not get extended to Loyang since it is feeder + the purpose of new service is direct connection for st 11/12 residents to Pasir Ris without doing st 51 unlike Sv 359. Also will have bi-directional loading as it will cater to the south part of Loyang Industrial estate that does not have a service today.

• carbikebus

  21 Aug 14, 11:14

  Punggol Rd end just renumbered 84 to 384 enough le..
• JurongWestresident

  21 Aug 14, 13:38

  Originally posted by JurongWestresident:

  Over at Jurong West Extension, I would like to suggest a change in feeder routes 242 and 243.

  New 243 (White) (Green route is just opposite of this)

  Boon Lay Bus Interchange 

  Jurong West Central 3

  Jurong West Street 64

  Jurong West Street 62

  Jurong West Street 61

  Jurong West Street 71

  Jurong West Street 81

  Jurong West Street 82

  Jurong West Street 75

  Jurong West Avenue 4

  Jalan Boon Lay

  Jurong West Central 1

  Jurong West Street 64

  Jurong West Central 3

  Boon Lay Bus Interchange

  New 242

  Boon Lay Bus Interchange

  Jurong West Central 3

  Jurong West Street 64

  Jurong West Avenue 4

  Jurong West Street 72

  Jurong West Avenue 5

  Pioneer Road North

  Jurong West Avenue 4

  Jurong West Street 61

  Jurong West Street 63 (Pioneer MRT Station)

  Pioneer Road North

  Jurong West Avenue 5

  Jurong West Street 72

  Jurong West Avenue 4

  Jurong West Street 64

  Jurong West Central 3

  Boon Lay Bus Interchange

  

  In my opinion, I think I know why 243 and 181 has been heavily utilised at Jurong West Street 64 and 75. The reason could be because people in N6/N7 feels that 243 and 181 are more direct, as compared to 242. As a result, there are people who are actually under 242's coverage but they go and take 243 or 181. This may be the reason why 243 and 181 seems to be under-supplied. 

  If we let 242 provide a direct bus connection to Street 72 from Boon Lay, those under 242's coverage will really go and take 242. Meanwhile, the re-routed 242 can provide N7 and N8 people a bus connection to Pioneer MRT Station. The connection to Pioneer MRT may help to relieve some load over at Street 64, which may bring about another benefit, which is that the loading on buses at Street 64 and 75 may be reduced. 

  Meanwhile, at Gek Poh and Street 82, even with the re-route of 243, there's still 181 providing direct bus connection to/fro Boon Lay. Whereas at Street 81, the route to Boon Lay (via Pioneer Mall) will become shorter, which means a shorter ride for commuters going there. 

  Some pros and cons after analysing my proposal.

  • current 243G: 5.1km
  • new 243G: 4.89km
  • current 243W: 5.1km
  • new 243W: 4.93km
  • current 242: 5.7km
  • new 242: 6.63km
  • current total = 15.9km
  • new total = 16.45km (0.55km longer)
    

  Pros.

  • Int to Pioneer Secondary School
  • now (243G to blk 821): 2.4km
  • new (243W to Pioneer Sec [blk853]): 2.18km (0.22km shorter)
  • from blk 978 to Int
  • now (243W to Int): 3.3km
  • new (242 to Int): 2.55km (0.75km shorter)
  • Int to blk 834
  • now (243W): 2.2km
  • new (242): 2.2km (same)
  • new (243W to possible new bus stop at blk 843-829): 1.67km (0.53km shorter)
  • blk 834 to Int
  • now (243W): 2.9km
  • new (242): 2.21km (0.69km shorter)

  New connections:

  • Jurong West Street 72 to/fro Pioneer Road North
  • Jurong West Street 72 to/fro Jurong West Street 61
  • Jurong West Street 81 to/fro Jalan Boon Lay
    

  Cons.

  • from Pioneer Secondary School to Int
    
  • now (243W to Int): 2.1km
  • new (243G [at blk 821] to Int): 2.16km (0.06km longer)
  • from Int to blk 978
  • now (243W): 1.8km
  • new (242 to blk 705): 2.5km (0.7km longer)
  • alternative (241): 2.0km (0.2km longer)
  • Int to blk 858
  • now (243G): 2.1km
  • new (new 243G): 2.4km (0.3km longer)
  • new (new 243W): 2.58km (0.48km longer)
  • blk 858 to Int
  • now (243W [at blk 860] to Int): 1.7km
  • new (243W [at blk 860] to Int): 2.38km (0.68km longer)
  • new (243G [at blk 858] to Int): 2.53km (0.83km longer)

  Broken connections:

  • to Pioneer Road North
  • -alternative: (from blk 844) take 179 (from blk 840)
  • -alternative: (from blk 860/765) take 185
  • -alternative: (from blk 828) take 242
  • to take 243
  • -alternative (from blk 834) take from possible new bus stop at blk 843-829
  • -alternative (from blk 641) take from blk 639
  • -alternative (from blk 705) take from blk 701
  • to Pioneer Secondary School
  • -alternative (from blk 978) take 242 to blk 745 and walk
    

  In terms of distance, not including distance saved by providing direct bus connection to N7, the total extra distance incurred (2.34km) is more than the total distance saved (1.66km), so this proposal does not really offer faster bus connections, especially to Jurong West Street 82.

  Nonetheless, this proposal would provide three new bus connections and help to reduce loading. For instance,

  1. * Some commuters can take 242 from Pioneer MRT Station instead of Boon Lay Bus Interchange. This should reduce loading off buses (eg. new 242 and 181) coming from Boon Lay Bus Interchange and heading towards Jurong West Street 75.
  2. * With 242 providing direct bus connection to Jurong West Street 72, this should encourage some commuters going to Jurong West Street 72 to take 242 instead of other buses (that goes to Jurong West Street 75), thus reduce loading of those buses (eg. 181).
  3. * By then, there may not be a need to have two bus services at Jurong West Street 75 providing direct bus connections to Boon Lay Bus Interchange, so we can re-route either 181 or 243 to ply Jalan Boon Lay and compensate the loss due to 242 amendment. I would suggest re-routing 243 instead of 181, because people staying in Jurong West Avenue 3 needs 181 to get to Boon Lay Bus Interchange, whereas people staying in Jurong West Street 81 can take 243 in the other direction to get to Boon Lay Bus Interchange (which is shorter). Re-routing 243 to Jalan Boon Lay can provide new bus connection between Jurong West Street 81 and Jalan Boon Lay.
  4. * The loading on 243 will be reduced when some of its sections are taken over by 242.
  5. * With the new bus connections, people can have direct bus connections to some destinations (at Pioneer Road North, Jurong West Street 61 and Jalan Boon Lay), that they need not change buses at Boon Lay Bus Interchange or wait for buses (eg. 99) at some major bus stops (eg. those along Jurong West Avenue 5). This would reduce loading off some bus services, as well as the crowding level off some bus stops.

  Alright. I confess my proposal has flaws and may not be wise to implement. Nonetheless, I hope the suggestions (eg. a direct bus connection from Boon Lay Bus Interchange to Jurong West Street 72, from Jurong West Street 81 to Jalan Boon Lay, from Jurong West Avenue 4 to Pioneer MRT Station, etc.) in this proposal can be considered when there are new proposals to the bus network in Jurong West Extension being created.