Originally posted by Gus.chong:Service 134 (Ang Mo Kio - Boon Lay)
Direction 1 From Ang Mo Kio Interchange
Ang Mo Kio Ave 8
- Ang Mo Kio Interchange
Ang Mo Kio Ave 3
- Blk 324
Ang Mo Kio Ave 6
- Aft Blk 304
Marymount Rd
- Blk 254
- Blk 260
- Whitley Sec Sch
- Marymount View
- Opp Marymount Stn
- Aft Bishan St 21
- Bef Marymount Convent Sch
Toa Payoh Rise
- Lions Nursing Home
- Bef Lor 1 Toa Payoh
Lor 1 Toa Payoh
- Blk 128
- Opp Philips S'pore
- Oleander Twrs
Lor 2 Toa Payoh
Non Stop
Jln Toa Payoh
- Opp Trellis Twrs
Thomson Rd
- Opp Thomson Med Ctr
- Opp Novena Lodge
- Novena Ch
Newton Rd
- Hotel Royal
- Newton Life Ch
Scotts Rd
- Newton Stn
- Env Bldg
- Far East Plaza
Paterson Rd
Non Stop
Orchard Blvd
- Opp Four Seasons Hotel
- Bef Tomlinson Rd
Grange Rd
- Opp Trader's Hotel
Napier Rd
- British Council
- Opp S'pore Botanic Gdns
Holland Rd
- Aft Min Of Foreign Affairs
- CSC Dempsey Clubhse
- Aft Peirce Rd
- Lien Twrs
- Aft Estoril Mans
- Holland Village
North Buona Vista Rd
Non Stop
Commonwealth Ave West
- Buona Vista Stn
- Blk 19A CP
- SP SMA
- Dover Stn
- Opp Sch Of Science & Tech
Clementi Rd
- Blk 352
- Blk 343
- Blk 109
- Blk 116
- Maju Camp
- SIM HQ
- Ngee Ann Poly
- Opp King Albert Pk
Upp Bukit Timah Rd
Non Stop
PIE
Express
Jurong West Ave 2
- Opp St. Joseph's Home
Jln Boon Lay
- Blk 263
- Opp Blk 695
Boon Lay Way
Non Stop
Jurong West Ctrl 2
Non Stop
Jurong West Ctrl 3
- Boon Lay InterchangeDirection 2 From Boon Lay Interchange
Jurong West Ctrl 3
- Boon Lay Interchange
Jln Boon Lay
- Blk 695
- Blk 680C
Jurong West Ave 2
- St. Joseph's Home
PIE
Express
Upp Bukit Timah Rd
Non Stop
Jln Jurong Kechil
Non Stop
Jln Anak Bukit
Non Stop
Clementi Rd
- Aft King Albert Pk
- Opp Ngee Ann Poly
- Opp SIM HQ
- Opp Maju Camp
- Opp Blk 116
- Opp Blk 109A
- Opp Blk 343
- Opp Blk 352
Commonwealth Ave West
- Sch Of Science & Tech
- Dover Stn
- Opp SP SMA
- Opp Blk 19A CP
- Blk 15
North Buona Vista Rd
Non Stop
Holland Rd
- Opp Holland Village
- Fairlodge
- Les Jardins De Holland
- Great Eastern Mans
- Opp Peirce Rd
- Bef Tyersall Ave
Napier Rd
- S'pore Botanic Gdns
- Opp British Council
Tanglin Rd
- Aft Tomlinson Rd
Orchard Rd
- Delfi Orchard
- Royal Thai Embassy
Scotts Rd
- Royal Plaza On Scotts
- Opp Env Bldg
- Newton Stn
Newton Rd
- Opp Newton Life Ch
- Opp Hotel Royal
Thomson Rd
- Opp Novena Ch
- Novena Lodge
- Thomson Med Ctr
- Opp Tan Tong Meng Twr
Jln Toa Payoh
- Trellis Twrs
Lor 2 Toa Payoh
Non Stop
Lor 1 Toa Payoh
- Blk 163
- Philips S'pore
- Blk 166
Toa Payoh Rise
- Aft Lor 1 Toa Payoh
- Opp Lions Nursing Home
Marymount Rd
- Opp Marymount Convent Sch
- Bef Marymount Lane
- Marymount Stn
- Blk 319
- Opp Whitley Sec Sch
- Opp Blk 263A CP
- Opp Blk 254
Ang Mo Kio Ave 6
- Blk 207
Ang Mo Kio Ave 3
- Blk 700B
Ang Mo Kio Ave 8
- Ang Mo Kio Interchange
Hi mr Gus.chong, to be frank, the route is a bit too long. No hard feelings. Cheers!
Originally posted by dupdup77:Hi mr Gus.chong, to be frank, the route is a bit too long. No hard feelings. Cheers!
Well, I originally intended to make the route ply the whole stretch of Ulu Pandan Rd and Holland Rd...I had made the changes, the distance of Direction 1 won't be that long provided that it should be around 30-31km...
It is quite attrocious that I have to wait for Svc 811 for almost close to 15 mins... Haish... I think ppl staying at Orchid Park Condo hv to wait for so long and ended up bunching started...
I guess merging Service 811 was a mistake... My idea is to split the services up...
Service 801
Yishun Interchange - Yishun Ave 7/Sembawang Rd (Loop)
Via the current 811 route to Chong Pang & Back to Yishun Interchange
Service 811
Yishun Interchange - Yishun Ave 1 (Loop) No Change for the route to Khatib MRT/Yishun St 81 & Ave 1
Service 802
Yishun Interchange - Yishun Ave 1/St 81 (Loop)
Via
Yishun Interchange
Yishun Ave 2
Yishun Central
Yishun Ave 4
Yishun Ave 1
Yishun St 81
Yishun Ave 4
Yishun Central
Yishun Ave 2
Yishun Interchange
Service 805
Yishun Interchange - Yishun St 41/Ave 4 (Loop)
Via
Yishun Interchange
Yishun Central
Yishun Ave 4
Yishun Ring Road
Yishun St 41
Yishun Ave 1
Yishun Ave 4
Yishun Central
Yishun Ave 2
Yishun Interchange
Pasir Ris - Hougang St 21 via Changi North, Bedok North, Lor Ah Soo OR Upp Paya Lebar
Pasir Ris Int (Pasir Ris MRT)
Dr 3, Ctrl, Dr 1
Loyang Ave, New Loyang Link, Old Tamp Rd
Upp Changi Rd North, PIE
Bedok North Ave 3, Rd (Bedok North MRT), Reservoir Rd
Kaki Bukit Ave 1 (Kaki Bukit MRT), Eunos Link
From here, there are two options
Option 1
Hougang Ave 3, Lor Ah Soo
Option 2
Airport Rd, Upp Paya Lebar Rd (Tai Seng MRT)
Upp Paya Lebar Rd, Upp Serangoon Rd
Hougang St 21, Ave 1, Tamp Rd, Upp Serangoon Rd (Kovan MRT)
Pros
Link Blk 442 (market place area in Pasir Ris East) to Loyang Ave (area old 357 loop at, no direct link to Pasir Ris Int without walking), and Loyang Estate (no link to Dr 1 from there)
Link Dr 1 to Changi North (multiple services to transfer from Dr 1 compared to Dr 3)
Direct link from Bedok North to Changi North (fastest currently is transfer to svc 2 at Bedok MRT, or 5 at Bedok Reservoir)
Link Bedok North MRT to areas around Fengshan Pri (none of the 4 services ply at area of North Rd
Option 2 - Link Kaki Bukit MRT to Airport Rd
Option 1 - Alternate for 113 users to Kovan
Cons
From Pasir Ris Int to Changi North, 5 is faster
Somewhat duplicate 5 from Pasir Ris to Kaki Bukit
When Downtown Line is completed, if 18 retains its current route, it will connect Fengshan Pri pax to the MRT line better compared to this service (1-2 stops compared to 3-4 stops for this service)
Option 1 - Somewhat duplicates 45 from Bedok - Lor Ah Soo, and 87 from Bedok - Hougang Ave 3
Option 2 - Somewhat duplicate 58 from Kaki Bukit to Upp Paya Lebar
Upp Serangoon Rd has heavy traffic, may not be a reliable alternative to 113 pax at Lor Ah Soo
I dont know if its possible but LTA should consider this
Bukit Batok:A new service to Sembawang
Choa Chu Kang:A new feeder loops at Yew Tee,A new trunk looping around Marsiling
Bukit Panjang:A new service passing Orchard to St Michaels
Woodlands:A new short trunk looping at Jln Kayu
Sembawang:Beside the new service to Bt Batok,Another feeder svc
Yishun:A new service to Jurong East
Originally posted by carbikebus:I dont know if its possible but LTA should consider this
Bukit Batok:A new service to Sembawang
Choa Chu Kang:A new feeder loops at Yew Tee,A new trunk looping around Marsiling
Bukit Panjang:A new service passing Orchard to St Michaels
Woodlands:A new short trunk looping at Jln Kayu
Sembawang:Beside the new service to Bt Batok,Another feeder svc
Yishun:A new service to Jurong East
Hi mr carbikebus, here are my views. No offence, ok?
Bukit batok to sembawang: unlikely. Distance too far.
chos Chu Kang: possible. Needed.
bukit panjang: not possible to have another service going to orchard or even another service bypassing orchard. Currently have many options to orchard. A service looping at an MRT station like Clementi is welcome.
woodlands: unlikely. Jalan Kayu cannot absorb more services. Sbs 85 is the last. The road is too cramped and is wide enough only for 1 vehicle at a time.
sembawang: yes to feeder service
yishun: yes to JE, bypassing bukit batok on the way.
Cheers.
Originally posted by carbikebus:I dont know if its possible but LTA should consider this
Bukit Batok:A new service to Sembawang
Choa Chu Kang:A new feeder loops at Yew Tee,A new trunk looping around Marsiling
Bukit Panjang:A new service passing Orchard to St Michaels
Woodlands:A new short trunk looping at Jln Kayu
Sembawang:Beside the new service to Bt Batok,Another feeder svc
Yishun:A new service to Jurong East
No, no no........ New services must connect to newer areas.
984
Sembawang-Clementi
Originally posted by ButIAmAToilet:Pasir Ris - Hougang St 21 via Changi North, Bedok North, Lor Ah Soo OR Upp Paya Lebar
Pasir Ris Int (Pasir Ris MRT)
Dr 3, Ctrl, Dr 1
Loyang Ave, New Loyang Link, Old Tamp Rd
Upp Changi Rd North, PIE
Bedok North Ave 3, Rd (Bedok North MRT), Reservoir Rd
Kaki Bukit Ave 1 (Kaki Bukit MRT), Eunos Link
From here, there are two options
Option 1
Hougang Ave 3, Lor Ah Soo
Option 2
Airport Rd, Upp Paya Lebar Rd (Tai Seng MRT)
Upp Paya Lebar Rd, Upp Serangoon Rd
Hougang St 21, Ave 1, Tamp Rd, Upp Serangoon Rd (Kovan MRT)
Pros
Link Blk 442 (market place area in Pasir Ris East) to Loyang Ave (area old 357 loop at, no direct link to Pasir Ris Int without walking), and Loyang Estate (no link to Dr 1 from there)
Link Dr 1 to Changi North (multiple services to transfer from Dr 1 compared to Dr 3)
Direct link from Bedok North to Changi North (fastest currently is transfer to svc 2 at Bedok MRT, or 5 at Bedok Reservoir)
Link Bedok North MRT to areas around Fengshan Pri (none of the 4 services ply at area of North Rd
Option 2 - Link Kaki Bukit MRT to Airport Rd
Option 1 - Alternate for 113 users to Kovan
Cons
From Pasir Ris Int to Changi North, 5 is faster
Somewhat duplicate 5 from Pasir Ris to Kaki Bukit
When Downtown Line is completed, if 18 retains its current route, it will connect Fengshan Pri pax to the MRT line better compared to this service (1-2 stops compared to 3-4 stops for this service)
Option 1 - Somewhat duplicates 45 from Bedok - Lor Ah Soo, and 87 from Bedok - Hougang Ave 3
Option 2 - Somewhat duplicate 58 from Kaki Bukit to Upp Paya Lebar
Upp Serangoon Rd has heavy traffic, may not be a reliable alternative to 113 pax at Lor Ah Soo
But there is 53 from pasir ris to lorong ah soo already leh and 45 from Lorong Ah Soo to Bedok. It might be a redundant route like 120 ..
Originally posted by SBS5010P:But there is 53 from pasir ris to lorong ah soo already leh and 45 from Lorong Ah Soo to Bedok. It might be a redundant route like 120 ..
True, this is never meant to be a svc Pasir Ris - Lor Ah Soo pax should take, and I also acknowledge the duplicates with 45. I currently can't find an appropriate terminating point after Kaki Bukit. Here is a temperory alternative
Eunos Link, Airport Rd
Mcphearson Rd, Upp Serangoon Rd
Can either loop at Potong Pasir or terminate at Woodleigh MRT
There are currently no services linking Potong Pasir MRT with Mcphearson Rd. It will be good if a service does that.
Originally posted by ButIAmAToilet:True, this is never meant to be a svc Pasir Ris - Lor Ah Soo pax should take, and I also acknowledge the duplicates with 45. I currently can't find an appropriate terminating point after Kaki Bukit. Here is a temperory alternative
Eunos Link, Airport Rd
Mcphearson Rd, Upp Serangoon Rd
Can either loop at Potong Pasir or terminate at Woodleigh MRT
There are currently no services linking Potong Pasir MRT with Mcphearson Rd. It will be good if a service does that.
You also have 58 from Pasir Ris to Kaki Bukit... there are already other services doing this kind of route.
For me... what is needed now is more routes to connect to Sembawang, Yishun Ring road, BPJ ring road, Sengkang West etc. Those are where the next big developments are in the coming years and are in major need of trunk services.
Actually frankly speaking Hougang st 11 can be converted into a mini bus terminal then 113 can be extended to fernvale cres via lor ah soo, kovan,hougang ave 10, 8, upp serangoon rd, buangkok mrt. There's no way 113 can be extended to serangoon int cause there are still a significant no. of pax taking from hg st 11..
Then 113's berth at hougang int can make space for new svcs eg. 328 to buangkok link?
Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:You also have 58 from Pasir Ris to Kaki Bukit... there are already other services doing this kind of route.
For me... what is needed now is more routes to connect to Sembawang, Yishun Ring road, BPJ ring road, Sengkang West etc. Those are where the next big developments are in the coming years and are in major need of trunk services.
Would be good to have alt svc from Pasir ris - kaki bukit cause 58 is really packed in this sector
Originally posted by SBS5010P:Would be good to have alt svc from Pasir ris - kaki bukit cause 58 is really packed in this sector
Yes would be good to have many more long distance routes... but from the trend you can see that LTA is just not interested.
Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:You also have 58 from Pasir Ris to Kaki Bukit... there are already other services doing this kind of route.
For me... what is needed now is more routes to connect to Sembawang, Yishun Ring road, BPJ ring road, Sengkang West etc. Those are where the next big developments are in the coming years and are in major need of trunk services.
Sort of forgot about 58 until you mention it. When proposing this route, I am more focus on pax travelling short distance over pax travelling long distance, like multiple short feeders/trunk into 1 svc. Thanks for bringing that up though.
No issues with any towns except Yishun so far. There are barely any incentives for routes to be diverted to Ring Rd, unless it is a northbound svc, and terminates near Khatib, reason being that it will get windy. Yishun have a lot of long-dist route, and majority of lond-dist routes travel straight from point A-B (maybe they turn a lot outside point A/B, but in point A/B, turns tend to be minimal)
I think for Yishun, amendment of northbound services like 856,859, and maybe 860 are pulsable. Their runtime/distance cover are a lot shorter compared to most southbound svc. However, it does not means that southbound cannot cover Ring Rd as well. North svc can take areas like N2 and N4, while south svc can take areas like Yishun JC/Sec and Ave 4
Just my 2 cent on your suggestion
sv 49 extension
Taman Jurong Terminal --> Yuan Ching Rd --> Tai Ching Rd --> Corporation Dr --> Corporation Rd --> Boon Lay Way --> Jurong West st 51 --> Jurong West st 41 --> Jurong West st 42 --> Jurong West Ave 1 --> Corporation Rd --> Jurong West Ave 2 --> Jurong West Ave 4 --> Jurong West st 64 --> Jurong West st 65 (3 new bus stops) --> Jurong West st 63 --> Pioneer Rd North --> Jurong West st 93 (3 new bus stops) --> Jurong West st 92 --> Jurong West st 91 (looping point)
Advantages:
- Faster connection to Jurong st 41 from Lakeside MRT (alternative to 335 in both directions)
- Connects st 41/42 to other parts in Boon Lay District
- Pioneer MRT connection to areas within Boon Lay District without connection today (especially st 65 & st 93 getting new stops for easy access for ppl living there)
- Alternate option to 241/99 for the many HDBs along st 91/92
Comments/suggestions welcome!!
Route amendment to 852:
Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:sv 49 extension
Taman Jurong Terminal --> Yuan Ching Rd --> Tai Ching Rd --> Corporation Dr --> Corporation Rd --> Boon Lay Way --> Jurong West st 51 --> Jurong West st 41 --> Jurong West st 42 --> Jurong West Ave 1 --> Corporation Rd --> Jurong West Ave 2 --> Jurong West Ave 4 --> Jurong West st 64 --> Jurong West st 65 (3 new bus stops) --> Jurong West st 63 --> Pioneer Rd North --> Jurong West st 93 (3 new bus stops) --> Jurong West st 92 --> Jurong West st 91 (looping point)
Advantages:
- Faster connection to Jurong st 41 from Lakeside MRT (alternative to 335 in both directions)
- Connects st 41/42 to other parts in Boon Lay District
- Pioneer MRT connection to areas within Boon Lay District without connection today (especially st 65 & st 93 getting new stops for easy access for ppl living there)
- Alternate option to 241/99 for the many HDBs along st 91/92
Comments/suggestions welcome!!
What if 157 or 198 is diverted to ply St 42?
Originally posted by AJQZC:Route amendment to 852:
- Yishun Int (NS13 Yishun)
- Yishun Ave 2 (Bus stop opp Blk 753)
- Yishun Ctrl 1 (Non-stop)
- Yishun Ctrl 2
- Yishun St 61
- Yishun Ring Rd
- Yishun Ave 2 (NS14 Khatib)
- Yishun Ave 1 (Non-stop)
- Sembawang Rd
- Upp Thomson Rd
- Yio Chu Kang Rd
- AMK Ave 4 (Non-stop)
- AMK Ave 9
- AMK Ave 6 (NS15 Yio Chu Kang)
- ... (Remainder of journey towards Bt Batok)
One-direction only, during AM & PM peak. Skips Lentor Ave, which is already served by many other 85x services. This will provide a quick link between Yishun, Sembawang Rd, Tagore Estate and YCK, and can hopefully ease some of the morning crowds on 169 / 812.P.S. I did consider using other routes like the SLE expresses (39, 858, 965 etc.), but a quick review through past threads suggests that these routes are incredibly crowded during peak hours, so ... ^_~
Good suggestion, provides many unique links, connecting residential areas like Yishun St 61/ Ring Rd and Springleaf/Springside/YCK Rd to MRT stns, Nee Soon Camp and Tagore industrial area. Great use of Yishun Ave 1 as a direct alternative link between Upp Thomson/ Sembawang Rd and Khatib/ Yishun. However, this may be better as a new, separate bus svc instead of an amendment to svc 852, which has significant demand during peak hrs between Yishun and Macritchie/ Bt Timah further down the route.
855 amendments
Yishun-Habourfront
Originally posted by TPS Timothy Mok:
No, no no........ New services must connect to newer areas.
New place?Where?Poyan reservoir?
Originally posted by 201911:Good suggestion, provides many unique links, connecting residential areas like Yishun St 61/ Ring Rd and Springleaf/Springside/YCK Rd to MRT stns, Nee Soon Camp and Tagore industrial area. Great use of Yishun Ave 1 as a direct alternative link between Upp Thomson/ Sembawang Rd and Khatib/ Yishun. However, this may be better as a new, separate bus svc instead of an amendment to svc 852, which has significant demand during peak hrs between Yishun and Macritchie/ Bt Timah further down the route.
It is a good suggestion... but a huge amendment... While I support it, I highly doubt LTA is willing to make any such modifications to existing services.
852's current route is hopeless. Either duplicating 851 or 74 or 157. Your suggestion gives a fresh route to 852.
Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:It is a good suggestion... but a huge amendment... While I support it, I highly doubt LTA is willing to make any such modifications to existing services.
852's current route is hopeless. Either duplicating 851 or 74 or 157. Your suggestion gives a fresh route to 852.
I do recall that SMRT applied to LTA a few times, without avail, to cut the 852 route between Yishun and YCK, such that it starts from AMDEP... No idea why they still want to preserve this route section (if they do).
982 - Sembawang > Jurong East
Sembawang Int
Sembawang Drive
Canberra Link
Yishun Ave 2
Yishun St 61
Yishun Ring Road
Yishun Ave 2
Yishun Ave 1
Mandai Ave
Mandai Road
Woodlands Road
Sungei Kadut Ave
Choa Chu Kang Way
Choa Chu Kang North 7
Choa Chu Kang Drive
Choa Chu Kang Ave 4
Choa Chu Kang Ave 1
Teck Whye Lane (reuse old bus stops)
Teck Whye Ave
Choa Chu Kang Road
Bukit Batok Road
Bukit Batok West Ave 5
Bukit Batok St 51/52
Bukit Batok East Ave 2
Bukit Batok Central
Bukit Batok West Ave 3/6
Bukit Batok Ave 1
Jurong East Central
Jurong East Int
Originally posted by 23ispolo:982 - Sembawang > Jurong East
Sembawang Int
Sembawang Drive
Canberra Link
Yishun Ave 2
Yishun St 61
Yishun Ring Road
Yishun Ave 2
Yishun Ave 1
Mandai Ave
Mandai Road
Woodlands Road
Sungei Kadut Ave
Choa Chu Kang Way
Choa Chu Kang North 7
Choa Chu Kang Drive
Choa Chu Kang Ave 4
Choa Chu Kang Ave 1
Teck Whye Lane (reuse old bus stops)
Teck Whye Ave
Choa Chu Kang Road
Bukit Batok Road
Bukit Batok West Ave 5
Bukit Batok St 51/52
Bukit Batok East Ave 2
Bukit Batok Central
Bukit Batok West Ave 3/6
Bukit Batok Ave 1
Jurong East Central
Jurong East Int
The CCK part is abit....long.