Route Suggestions (Part 5)

• carbikebus

  1 Jan 14, 15:12

  Actually 981 to operate like 925 style better.Sun/PHs no operation

• SBS9000S (SLBP SP)

  1 Jan 14, 16:12

  Originally posted by Pervertedboy:

  1. Soon Lee Bus Depot
  2. Soon Lee Road
  3. Soon Lee Drive
  4. Pioneer Road North
  5. Jurong West Avenue 4
  6. Jurong West Avenue 2
  7. Pan Island Expressway
  8. Bukit Batok Road
  9. Bukit Batok West Avenue 3
  10. Bukit Batok West Avenue 2
  11. Bukit Batok West Avenue 5
  12. Bukit Batok Street 31 (loop)
  13. Bukit Batok West Avenue 5
  14. Bukit Batok West Avenue 2
  15. Bukit Batok West Avenue 3
  16. Bukit Batok Road
  17. Pan Island Expressway
  18. Jurong West Avenue 2
  19. Jurong West Avenue 4
  20. Pioneer Road North
  21. Soon Lee Drive
  22. Soon Lee Road
  23. Soon Lee Bus Depot

  Length = 19.6km

  This is a new trunk route which loops at Bukit Gombak.

  First, it complements route 945 and provides bus connection to Bukit Gombak MRT Station for residents staying near Dazhong Primary School - there is currently no bus connection to the MRT station.

  Second, it provides inter-town bus connection between Jurong West and Bukit Batok - as passengers of Jurong West can commute on their individual feeder bus and  transfer to this new trunk service at bus stops along Jurong West Avenue 2/4, while those staying around Jurong West Avenue 2/4 can simply take this new trunk service from their doorstep.

  • With this new trunk service, Jurong West passengers going to Bukit Batok would no longer have to stopover at Boon Lay Bus Interchange - may help to relieve load off bus routes 174, 157 and 187, and benefit passengers commuting on those bus services, while reduce the crowding level at Boon Lay Bus Interchange.
  • Same applies to Bukit Batok passengers going to Jurong West.

  SBS Transit should operate service on this route, with buses originating from Soon Lee Bus Depot and Bukit Batok Bus Depot (injecting into service from Bukit Batok West Avenue 2, via Bukit Batok Central, BB Avenue 1. BB East Avenue 6 and BB Street 23).

  can extend the starting point to bnl int and to bb int?so that the pax at bnl int have 2 bus sv going to bukit batok

• 23ispolo

  1 Jan 14, 18:48

  Originally posted by SBS9000S (SLBP SP):

  can extend the starting point to bnl int and to bb int?so that the pax at bnl int have 2 bus sv going to bukit batok

  Boon Lay is already overcrowded... So it's still better to start at SLBP, but still can extend to Bukit Batok Int...

• Gus.chong

  1 Jan 14, 19:30

  Originally posted by 23ispolo:

  Boon Lay is already overcrowded... So it's still better to start at SLBP, but still can extend to Bukit Batok Int...

  It is somehow short for a loop service...I don't really find a need to have two terminal points.

• SBS7777Y

  1 Jan 14, 19:53

  Start an express BSEP bus service from Kuala Lumpur to Singapore Please.

• 23ispolo

  1 Jan 14, 19:55

  Originally posted by SBS7777Y:

  Start an express BSEP bus service from Kuala Lumpur to Singapore Please.

  Coach services...

• Pervertedboy

  1 Jan 14, 21:33

  Originally posted by SBS9000S (SLBP SP):

  can extend the starting point to bnl int and to bb int?so that the pax at bnl int have 2 bus sv going to bukit batok

  • To some extent, Bukit Gombak MRT Station is similar to Pioneer MRT Station, where 
  • there are a few HDB areas that are nearer to B. Gombak MRT Station but there are only bus services to B. Batok MRT Station.
  • Alright. Since it is already at Bukit Batok, I might as well extend this route to Bukit Batok Bus Interchange.
  • However, there are already bus routes 945 and 947 providing direct bus connection to Bukit Batok Bus Interchange. It may be redundant to have another direct bus connection to Bukit Gombak from Bukit Batok Bus Interchange. Also, if I "force" this new route to go directly to BB Bus Interchange, it is going to be largely a duplicate of route 945.
  • So, I might as well design this bus route to go to Bukit Batok East - parts of it does not have direct bus connection to Bukit Batok Bus Interchange. 
  • To some extent, this route extension absorbs my earlier speculation of the next BB Feeder route.
  • To think about it, I might as well also edit the Jurong West section to link parts of Jurong West Extension to Pioneer MRT Station.

  1. Soon Lee Bus Depot
  2. Soon Lee Road
  3. Soon Lee Drive
  4. Pioneer Road North
  5. Jurong West Street 63
  6. Jurong West Street 61
  7. Jurong West Street 71
  8. Jurong West Street 81
  9. Jurong West Street 82
  10. Jurong West Avenue 5
  11. Jurong West Street 72 (alternative to St 75, which already has many bus routes)
  12. Jurong West Avenue 4
  13. Jurong West Avenue 2
  14. Pan Island Expressway
  15. Bukit Batok Road
  16. Bukit Batok West Avenue 3
  17. Bukit Batok West Avenue 2
  18. Bukit Batok West Avenue 5
  19. Bukit Batok Street 31
  20. Bukit Batok West Avenue 5
  21. Bukit Batok East Avenue 5
  22. Bukit Batok East Avenue 4
  23. Bukit Batok East Avenue 3
  24. Bukit Batok Street 23
  25. Bukit Batok East Avenue 6
  26. Bukit Batok Street 21
  27. Bukit Batok Central
  28. Bukit Batok Bus Interchange

  new Length = 18.8km (to Bukit Batok Bus Interchange), 16.7km (to Soon Lee Bus Depot) 

  Total Length (both directions) = 35.5km (still 600m shorter than bus route 185)

• BusAnalayzer

  2 Jan 14, 16:34

  There should be a service from Jurong East Interchange parallel to NSL to Woodlands

  Jurong East Interchange (Jurong East MRT)

  Jurong East Central

  Bukit Batok Ave 1

  Bukit Batok Central (BBT MRT)

  Bukit Batok East Ave 3

  BBT East Ave 2

  BBT East Ave 5

  BBT West Ave 5 (Bukit Gombok MRT)

  Brickland Road (Express)

  CCK Ave 3

  CCK Way

  CCK Ave 4 (CCK MRT)

  CCK Drive

  CCK St 54

  CCK North 6 (Yew Tee MRT)

  CCK Way

  Sungei Kadut Ave

  Woodlands Road

  Mandai Road (Express)

  BKE (Express)

  Woodlands Ave 3

  Woodlands Ave 1 (Marsiling MRT)

  Woodgrove Ave

  Woodlands St 32

  Woodlands Ave 3

  Woodlands Regional Interchange (Woodlands MRT)

   

• carbikebus

  2 Jan 14, 16:41

  Actually can make 178 start from Sembawang via outside Woodlands int end at Jurong East..

• Pervertedboy

  3 Jan 14, 10:14

  possible route for new feeder 371

  1. Sengkang Bus Interchange>Sengkang Square (turn right, right and straight to Kopitiam Square)>Sengkang East Road>Sengkang East/West Way>Jalan Kayu>Sengkang West Avenue>Fernvale Road>Sengkang West/East Way>Sengkang East Road>Sengkang Square>Sengkang Bus Interchange Length = 7.2km (meanwhile, route 372 is 7.9km)
  2. I doubt the new feeder would ply Anchorvale Street because this would duplicate the LRT. Otherwise, from Sengkang East Road, it would first go to Anchorvale Street, then go to Seng Kang East/West Way via Anchorvale Road.
• Pervertedboy

  3 Jan 14, 17:06

  new feeder 244. (new section in blue)

  1. Boon Lay Bus Interchange
  2. Jurong West Central 3
  3. Jurong West Street 64
  4. Jurong West Street 63
  5. Pioneer Road North
  6. Upper Jurong Road
  7. Jurong West Street 93
  8. Jurong West Street 92
  9. Jurong West Street 91
  10. Jurong West Street 93
  11. Upper Jurong Road
  12. Pioneer Road North
  13. Jurong West Street 63
  14. Jurong West Street 64
  15. Jurong West Central 3
  16. Boon Lay Bus Interchange

  Length = 6.95km (750m longer than 241)

  Benefits:

  1. 1a. This route improves Boon Lay Bus Interchange's feeder coverage at st 93. currently, st 93 residents are not really well-served by public buses because all the buses are at Pioneer Road North. If they want to take buses 241 or 179 to Pioneer MRT Station, they have to walk at least 200m to the nearest bus stop at blk 643, which they might as well just walk to Pioneer MRT Station. As there is a road barrier in the way, they cannot directly cross the road. So, although the nearest bus stop is just opposite them, it is actually not the nearest.
  2. 1b. In addition, this new feeder would enable residents at blk986-990 to have feeder coverage to Boon Lay Bus Interchange. 
  3. 2. shorter travelling time than route 241. The traffic at PRN is much heavier than than the traffic at JW st 93. This alternative route to/fro JW st 91 and Pioneer MRT station is faster. (vague statement)
  4. 3. To some extent, this new feeder route complements feeder 241 and relieves the load off feeder 241.
• BusAnalayzer

  3 Jan 14, 20:48

  154B should have been express between Clementi MRT and Manju Camp for faster turn around and express service to students just like 179A. No need for all the intermediate stops that are already catered by 52/154/184 and do not have much loading during AM peak.

• SMB128B

  4 Jan 14, 10:10

  Originally posted by Pervertedboy:

  possible route for new feeder 371

  1. Sengkang Bus Interchange
  2. Sengkang Square (turn right, right and straight to Kopitiam Square)
  3. Sengkang East Road
  4. Sengkang East/West Way
  5. Jalan Kayu
  6. Sengkang West Avenue
  7. Fernvale Road
  8. Sengkang West/East Way
  9. Sengkang East Road
  10. Sengkang Square
  11. Sengkang Bus Interchange

  Length = 7.2km (meanwhile, route 372 is 7.9km)

  •  I doubt the new feeder would ply Anchorvale Street because this would duplicate the LRT. 
  • Otherwise, from Sengkang East Road, it would first go to Anchorvale Street, then go to Seng Kang East/West Way via Anchorvale Road.

  This feeder 371 is not possible at all. Duplicate 85 and 372 too much, and also duplicate the LRT in some means. If not, why did it get withdrawn 9 years ago?

• carbikebus

  4 Jan 14, 10:44

  Maybe 9 years ago population at Sengkang isnt that significant and theres NEL LRT to promote also?Right now LTA siao siao wanna add supplement bus routes to cater those overcrowding bus service..I can forsee those route where only 1 service ply would have BSEP svc compliment them

• SMB128B

  4 Jan 14, 22:24

  Originally posted by carbikebus:

  Maybe 9 years ago population at Sengkang isnt that significant and theres NEL LRT to promote also?Right now LTA siao siao wanna add supplement bus routes to cater those overcrowding bus service..I can forsee those route where only 1 service ply would have BSEP svc compliment them

  Hope 371 can come back lor, and maybe can have 501 and 502 back also

• Guides anyone?

  4 Jan 14, 22:39

  Originally posted by SMB128B:

  Hope 371 can come back lor, and maybe can have 501 and 502 back also

  The old 371 is 163M's route, why have 2 routes when 1 is sufficient with DD deployments?? 

  With NEL and 80 to head to town, I see no reason why 502 should be back at Sengkang, with the fares shooting over the roof~

• TPS Timothy Mok

  4 Jan 14, 23:23

  Originally posted by Guides anyone?:

  The old 371 is 163M's route, why have 2 routes when 1 is sufficient with DD deployments?? 

  With NEL and 80 to head to town, I see no reason why 502 should be back at Sengkang, with the fares shooting over the roof~

  
  

  Why would you want the 502 back haaaaaa????? U think what, so funny, as CTE might be jammed during morning and evening peaks? 371 can revert to the East Loop where more BTOs are built.

  501 is renamed to Premium 550 and charged higher fares.

• TPS Timothy Mok

  4 Jan 14, 23:24

  Originally posted by SMB128B:

  This feeder 371 is not possible at all. Duplicate 85 and 372 too much, and also duplicate the LRT in some means. If not, why did it get withdrawn 9 years ago?

  
  

  I doubt the new feeder can go to Sengkang East.

• 201911

  4 Jan 14, 23:56

  Service 150: Toa Payoh - Yio Chu Kang

  Toa Payoh Int [Toa Payoh MRT]

  Lor 2 Toa Payoh

  Lor 1A Toa Payoh [new bus stops]

  Lor 1 Toa Payoh

  Toa Payoh Rise [Caldecott MRT]

  Thomson Road

  Upp Thomson Rd

  (Marymount Lane) [non-stop]

  Bishan St 21

  Bishan Rd [Bishan MRT]

  Ang Mo Kio Ave 1

  Upp Thomson Rd

  Yio Chu Kang Rd

  Ang Mo Kio Ave 6

  Yio Chu Kang Ter [Yio Chu Kang MRT]

  map: https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=216770656762111192395.0004ef2645efd392f9b10

   

  - provides better connectivity for new flats along Lor 1A Toa Payoh

  - links Caldecott MRT to Macritchie Reservoir, Upp Thomson Rd

  - direct link from Bishan St 21, Ang Mo Kio Ave 1 to Bishan MRT/ Junction 8

  - links Yio Chu Kang MRT with Yio Chu Kang Rd (Upp Thomson Rd - AMK Ave 6) and Upp Thomson Rd (AMK Ave 1 - YCK Rd)

• SMB128B

  5 Jan 14, 00:07

  Ya lah that's why lah. So why YET ANOTHER feeder to run around basically like a second svc 120? If you ask me I would rather the new BTOs and bus stops to be served by a new trunk, as there is an LRT around alr (thus greatly cutting chances of a new feeder). Even if LTA really so crazy I doubt they will really still start a 371 liddat bah... Maybe a trunk to ply these areas before leaving Sengkang. After all, why 2 when 1 can do the job?

• BusAnalayzer

  5 Jan 14, 06:11

  Sv 371: Sengkang Interchange, loop @ Jalan Kayu

  Sengkang Interchange

  Compassalve Road (2 stops)

  Compassalve St (1stop)

  Anchorvale St (new stop - blk 330)

  Anchorvale Rd (new stop - blk 326C)

  Sengkang East Way (Sengkang Sports Complex, opp Blk 471A - new, blk 432A - new, blk 451A - new)

  Jalan Kayu (blk 448B)

  Sengkang West  Ave (express)

  Fernvale Rd (blk 453D - new)

  route continues to Sengkang Interchange. 5 new stops in 1 direction, hardly any duplication with LRT or Sv 372 or Sv 50/163.

  With 371 plying Compassalve St, recommend 83 to ply Compassalve Crescent to provide direct MRT connectivity to blk 290-292-296 with 2 new stops along Com Cres.

• BusAnalayzer

  5 Jan 14, 06:12

  Originally posted by SMB128B:

  Ya lah that's why lah. So why YET ANOTHER feeder to run around basically like a second svc 120? If you ask me I would rather the new BTOs and bus stops to be served by a new trunk, as there is an LRT around alr (thus greatly cutting chances of a new feeder). Even if LTA really so crazy I doubt they will really still start a 371 liddat bah... Maybe a trunk to ply these areas before leaving Sengkang. After all, why 2 when 1 can do the job?

  Possible - there is still scope for a feeder with little LRT duplication or duplication with 50/163/372 as shown above.

• BusAnalayzer

  5 Jan 14, 06:13

  Suggestion: Sv 50 to ply Rivervale Crescent before going to Punggol East with 2 new stops. Add one bus to improve capacity and extra runtime.

• BusAnalayzer

  5 Jan 14, 06:16

  Suggestion: Sv 136 should ply Upper Serangoon Crescent with 2 stops along blk 471B and Parkland Residence. With this, it will not call at Serangoon Sec School stop but Parkland stop will be very close. Sv 62 will still call at Serangoon Sec School stop. This change will provide direct MRT connection to blk 471 residents, who have to walk quite a distance to nearby stop.

• BusAnalayzer

  5 Jan 14, 06:16

  Sv 163M should be removed with adding 1 more bus to 50. The latter provides faster MRT connection.