Route Suggestions (Part 5)

• TIB1234T

  3 Jan 15, 19:41

  Suggestions on new full day park services like 400, 402, 403 & 410G/W...

  
  Service 404 [Punggol Int <> Punggol Rd End] (Renumber from 84)

  Service 406 [Sengkang Int <> Fernvale Rd/Anchorvale Cres].
  - Connecting Sengkang Sports Centre & Sengkang Riverside Park together
  - Thanggam Stn will not have busstop at the moment due to lack of BTO flats, however new busstop will be placed along Fernvale Link corridors with incoming new BTOs
  - Alternative route to choose to & fro Sengkang Int
  - 15 new busstops

  Service 407 [Sengkang Int <> Upper Serangoon Rd].
  - Connection to Punggol Park
  - Brings commuters direct to Sengkang Int with the missing link around Upper Serangoon Cres/View
  - 15 new busstops

  
  https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=zs70d3gkW184.kVhLkfjhXAco

• SBS5010P

  3 Jan 15, 19:53

  Originally posted by TIB1234T:

  Suggestions on new full day park services like 400, 402, 403 & 410G/W...

  
  Service 404 [Punggol Int <> Punggol Rd End] (Renumber from 84)

  Service 406 [Sengkang Int <> Fernvale Rd/Anchorvale Cres].
  - Connecting Sengkang Sports Centre & Sengkang Riverside Park together
  - Thanggam Stn will not have busstop at the moment due to lack of BTO flats, however new busstop will be placed along Fervale Link corridors with incoming new BTOs
  - Alternative route to choose to & fro Sengkang Int
  - 15 new busstops

  Service 407 [Sengkang Int <> Upper Serangoon Rd].
  - Connection to Punggol Park
  - Brings commuters direct to Sengkang Int with the missing link around Upper Serangoon Cres/View
  - 15 new busstops

  
  https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=zs70d3gkW184.kVhLkfjhXAco

  Honestly 406 would provide a good alternative to 85. However who would go to Punggol or board 406 to SK west? 

  For Sv 407, extend 113 to SK int?

• TIB1234T

  3 Jan 15, 20:12

  Originally posted by SBS5010P:

  Honestly 406 would provide a good alternative to 85. However who would go to Punggol or board 406 to SK west? 

  For Sv 407, extend 113 to SK int?

  113 would be too long imo...

• mwhale7886

  4 Jan 15, 08:36

  Originally posted by TIB1234T:

  Suggestions on new full day park services like 400, 402, 403 & 410G/W...

  Erm... isn't 410G/W a feeder? 

• TIB1234T

  4 Jan 15, 09:12

  Originally posted by mwhale7886:

  Erm... isn't 410G/W a feeder? 

  It's like feeder, but serves Bishan Park...

• carbikebus

  4 Jan 15, 12:40

  Wah like that 194 considered Park svc also leh..Lets see we need Punggol Park,Marina park,West Coast park,401 considered park..

• TIB1234T

  4 Jan 15, 13:25

  Originally posted by carbikebus:

  Wah like that 194 considered Park svc also leh..Lets see we need Punggol Park,Marina park,West Coast park,401 considered park..

  401 is becos of EC Park... 4 is for very main "Park" svc...

  194 not consider since is Jurong Bird Park, this one totally different... lol

• SMB145B

  4 Jan 15, 13:46

  SMRT 301 

  Choa Chu Kang Int
  Choa Chu Kang Loop
  Choa Chu Kang Ave 4
  Choa Chu Kang Way
  Choa Chu Kang Grove
  Choa Chu Kang Way
  Choa Chu Kang Ave 4
  Choa Chu Kang Loop
  Choa Chu Kang Int

• BusAnalayzer

  4 Jan 15, 17:48

  Originally posted by TIB1234T:

  401 is becos of EC Park... 4 is for very main "Park" svc...

  194 not consider since is Jurong Bird Park, this one totally different... lol

  This whole parks numbering thing is stupid and inconsistent. Explain 405?

• TIB 585L

  4 Jan 15, 18:09

  Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:

  This whole parks numbering thing is stupid and inconsistent. Explain 405?

  I prefer if 49 change to 244 or 332 to match with the service number in JE/ Taman Jurong area

  41 can change also. It doenst match lol

  386 can change to 370 to match with Sengkang area routes.

   

• TIB 585L

  4 Jan 15, 18:14

  Svc 1

  Pasir Ris to Shenton Way

  PSR Dr 3 
  PSR Dr 4
  PSR Dr 1
  Loyang Ave
  Tampines Ave 7
  Tampines Ave 2
  Tampines Ave 1
  Bedok North Rd
  Bedok North Ave 1
  Bedok South Rd
  Bedok South Ave 1
  MP Rd
  Amber Rd
  Mountbatten Rd
  Nicoll Highway
  Fullerton Rd
  Collyer Quay
  ....

  Palmer Rd 

• BusAnalayzer

  4 Jan 15, 18:40

  Originally posted by TIB 585L:

  I prefer if 49 change to 244 or 332 to match with the service number in JE/ Taman Jurong area

  41 can change also. It doenst match lol

  386 can change to 370 to match with Sengkang area routes.

   

  Please feedback LTA and see what they have to say... 

• JurongWestresident

  4 Jan 15, 19:10

  24X & 33X are meant for feeder bus routes.

  Speaking of which, I have a suggestion for a new feeder bus route/service in Jurong West (Pioneer). This new route plies Jurong West Street 65 and completes quite a number of "puzzles" (providing new bus connections). Distance is around 6.1 to 6.2km, similar to route 241, hence I categorise it as 'feeder'.

  New Jurong West feeder (loops at Pioneer Road North)

  1. Boon Lay Bus Interchange
  2. Jurong West Central 3
  3. Jurong West Street 64
  4. Jurong West Street 65
  5. Jurong West Street 63
  6. Pioneer MRT Station
  7. Pioneer Road North
  8. Jurong West Avenue 5
  9. Jurong West Street 71
  10. Jurong West Avenue 4
  11. Pioneer Road North
  12. Pioneer MRT Station
  13. Jurong West Street 63
  14. Jurong West Street 65
  15. Jurong West Street 64
  16. Jurong West Central 3
  17. Boon Lay Bus Interchange

  • Benefits:
  • 1. Shorter bus route from blks 97X, blks 83X and blks 71X to MRT. 
  • 2. Complements heavily utilised bus routes, such as 243, 242, 241 and 181.
  • 3. Enhanced bus connection for blks 67X, blks 63X and blks 61X.

  
• mwhale7886

  4 Jan 15, 19:36

  Originally posted by TIB 585L:

  386 can change to 370 to match with Sengkang area routes.

  386 is a Punggol feeder, hence its 38x number. The 37x numbers are for Sengkang feeders.

• BusAnalayzer

  4 Jan 15, 19:42

  Originally posted by JurongWestresident:

  24X & 33X are meant for feeder bus routes.

  Speaking of which, I have a suggestion for a new feeder bus route/service in Jurong West (Pioneer). This new route plies Jurong West Street 65 and completes quite a number of "puzzles" (providing new bus connections). Distance is around 6.1 to 6.2km, similar to route 241, hence I categorise it as 'feeder'.

  New Jurong West feeder (loops at Pioneer Road North)

  1. Boon Lay Bus Interchange
  2. Jurong West Central 3
  3. Jurong West Street 64
  4. Jurong West Street 65
  5. Jurong West Street 63
  6. Pioneer MRT Station
  7. Pioneer Road North
  8. Jurong West Avenue 5
  9. Jurong West Street 71
  10. Jurong West Avenue 4
  11. Pioneer Road North
  12. Pioneer MRT Station
  13. Jurong West Street 63
  14. Jurong West Street 65
  15. Jurong West Street 64
  16. Jurong West Central 3
  17. Boon Lay Bus Interchange

  • Benefits:
  • 1. Shorter bus route from blks 97X, blks 83X and blks 71X to MRT. 
  • 2. Complements heavily utilised bus routes, such as 243, 242, 241 and 181.
  • 3. Enhanced bus connection for blks 67X, blks 63X and blks 61X.

  

  Does not really serve a great purpose. Covered by most other routes. Like 192,193 for Ave 4 and 185 for Ave 5. 

  I would like to see a service for Corporation Road either from Lakeside or Boon Lay, given that today there is only 178 that plies the entire stretch. With new BTO flats opening there, makes sense to have a short trunk service to Corporation Rd. 

• JurongWestresident

  9 Jan 15, 21:27

  New Trunk route/service which would create new bus connections while improve bus connectivity, in Buona Vista, Clementi, Jurong Gateway, and most importantly, to/fro Ngee Ann Polytechnic.

  Hopefully, if this route/service is a reality, the congestion problem at Clementi MRT Station bus stop can be relieved.

  New Buona Vista-Jurong East route

  1. Buona Vista Bus Terminal
  2. North Buona Vista Road (Buona Vista MRT)
  3. Vista Exchange Green
  4. Commonwealth Avenue West (serves new HDB flats at Ghim Moh Link)
  5. Commonwealth Avenue West (Dover MRT)
  6. Clementi Road
  7. Clementi Road (Ngee Ann Polytechnic)
  8. Pan Island Expressway
  9. Toh Guan Road
  10. Jurong Gateway Road
  11. Jurong East Bus Interchange (Jurong East MRT)

  Length to Jurong East: 11.5km

  Length to Buona Vista: 13.2km

  Total length: 24.7km

  
  

  Length on PIE (towards Jurong East): 3.9km (33.9% of route)

  Length on PIE (towards Buona Vista): 3.9km (29.5% of route)

  Total length on PIE: 7.8km (31.6% of route)

  
  

  Note: to Buona Vista:

  • - exit PIE via Upper Bukit Timah Road, Jalan Jurong Kechil, Jalan Anak Bukit and Clementi Road. 
  • - enter Buona Vista Bus Terminal via Commonwealth Avenue, Holland Avenue and Holland Drive.

  

• dupdup77

  9 Jan 15, 22:14

  Originally posted by JurongWestresident:

  New Trunk route/service which would create new bus connections while improve bus connectivity, in Buona Vista, Clementi, Jurong Gateway, and most importantly, to/fro Ngee Ann Polytechnic.

  Hopefully, if this route/service is a reality, the congestion problem at Clementi MRT Station bus stop can be relieved.

  New Buona Vista-Jurong East route

  1. Buona Vista Bus Terminal
  2. North Buona Vista Road (Buona Vista MRT)
  3. Vista Exchange Green
  4. Commonwealth Avenue West (serves new HDB flats at Ghim Moh Link)
  5. Commonwealth Avenue West (Dover MRT)
  6. Clementi Road
  7. Clementi Road (Ngee Ann Polytechnic)
  8. Pan Island Expressway
  9. Toh Guan Road
  10. Jurong Gateway Road
  11. Jurong East Bus Interchange (Jurong East MRT)

  Length to Jurong East: 11.5km

  Length to Buona Vista: 13.2km

  Total length: 24.7km

  
  

  Length on PIE (towards Jurong East): 3.9km (33.9% of route)

  Length on PIE (towards Buona Vista): 3.9km (29.5% of route)

  Total length on PIE: 7.8km (31.6% of route)

  
  

  Note: to Buona Vista:

  • - exit PIE via Upper Bukit Timah Road, Jalan Jurong Kechil, Jalan Anak Bukit and Clementi Road. 
  • - enter Buona Vista Bus Terminal via Commonwealth Avenue, Holland Avenue and Holland Drive.

  

  Hi mr jurongwestresident, suggestion not too bad but sbs 74 covers the buona vista to ngee Ann poly section well. Duplicating route. Cheers.

• ButIAmAToilet

  9 Jan 15, 22:54

  Should loop at JE Int.

  Anyway, there are currently no actual way from Beauty World MRT to Ngee Ann Poly, only from Ngee Ann - Beauty World (52/75/184). We need a service coming from Clementi Rd to loop at there. The place the route originated from will definately duplicate sone current day routes, but here is what I can think of so far.

  95 (Kent Ridge - Beauty World MRT via Holland Village)

  Current day route to Holland Village

  61/75's route to Upp Bukit Timah (Loop point)

  The closest stop will probably be Bukit Timah Link, where there is only 61, and 75/184 bus stop along Jln Anak Bukit is quite a distance. Having another service to call at that stop will be really useful.

• SBS5010P

  9 Jan 15, 23:06

  Sv 71 Ang Mo Kio - Serangoon Int 

  Ang Mo Kio - Serangoon Int (Loop)

  Ang Mo Kio Int (AMK MRT, AMK HUB)

  Ang Mo Kio Ave 8 (AMK MRT, Jubilee)

  Ang Mo Kio Ave 5 (Nanyang Poly, ITE College Central)

  Ang Mo Kio Ave 10 (Relieves 45's loading towards Serangoon MRT)

  Lor Chuan

  Serangoon Ave 2

  Serangoon Int (Loop) (Serangoon MRT, NeX)

• carbikebus

  9 Jan 15, 23:07

  Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:

  This whole parks numbering thing is stupid and inconsistent. Explain 405?

  Lim Chu Kang Rest Park

• BusAnalayzer

  10 Jan 15, 00:38

  Originally posted by SBS5010P:

  Sv 71 Ang Mo Kio - Serangoon Int 

  Yio Chu Kang Int - Serangoon Int (Loop)

  Ang Mo Kio Int (AMK MRT, AMK HUB)

  Ang Mo Kio Ave 8 (AMK MRT, Jubilee)

  Ang Mo Kio Ave 5 (Nanyang Poly, ITE College Central)

  Ang Mo Kio Ave 10 (Relieves 45's loading towards Serangoon MRT)

  Lor Chuan

  Serangoon Ave 2

  Serangoon Int (Loop) (Serangoon MRT, NeX)

  This route is exact copy of sv 45. What's the advantage? sv 45 capacity has already been beefed up with so many DDs and increase in number of buses. That should take care of the loading.

• iamgoondu

  10 Jan 15, 12:18

  Originally posted by ButIAmAToilet:

  Should loop at JE Int.

  Anyway, there are currently no actual way from Beauty World MRT to Ngee Ann Poly, only from Ngee Ann - Beauty World (52/75/184). We need a service coming from Clementi Rd to loop at there. The place the route originated from will definately duplicate sone current day routes, but here is what I can think of so far.

  95 (Kent Ridge - Beauty World MRT via Holland Village)

  Current day route to Holland Village

  61/75's route to Upp Bukit Timah (Loop point)

  The closest stop will probably be Bukit Timah Link, where there is only 61, and 75/184 bus stop along Jln Anak Bukit is quite a distance. Having another service to call at that stop will be really useful.

   

   

  There are fewer major roads here, and fortunately most major roads were covered well here. Whilst the residents need more bus services, to supplement the 'sub-standard' services provided by SMRT. Imagine 2 SBSTransit 7 had gone and I have yet to see a SMRT106? Perhaps SMRT are overloaded in providing services 190 and 970. 

• 201911

  10 Jan 15, 16:15

  Originally posted by ButIAmAToilet:

  Should loop at JE Int.

  Anyway, there are currently no actual way from Beauty World MRT to Ngee Ann Poly, only from Ngee Ann - Beauty World (52/75/184). We need a service coming from Clementi Rd to loop at there. The place the route originated from will definately duplicate sone current day routes, but here is what I can think of so far.

  95 (Kent Ridge - Beauty World MRT via Holland Village)

  Current day route to Holland Village

  61/75's route to Upp Bukit Timah (Loop point)

  The closest stop will probably be Bukit Timah Link, where there is only 61, and 75/184 bus stop along Jln Anak Bukit is quite a distance. Having another service to call at that stop will be really useful.

  Beauty World MRT will have an exit along Jln Jurong Kechil, where you can take 61 to Ngee Ann Poly. There's a map here on a blog which also shows the MRT construction updates. (it's not an official map but it's based on accurate info)

• 201911

  10 Jan 15, 16:27

  Originally posted by JurongWestresident:

  New Trunk route/service which would create new bus connections while improve bus connectivity, in Buona Vista, Clementi, Jurong Gateway, and most importantly, to/fro Ngee Ann Polytechnic.

  Hopefully, if this route/service is a reality, the congestion problem at Clementi MRT Station bus stop can be relieved.

  New Buona Vista-Jurong East route

  1. Buona Vista Bus Terminal
  2. North Buona Vista Road (Buona Vista MRT)
  3. Vista Exchange Green
  4. Commonwealth Avenue West (serves new HDB flats at Ghim Moh Link)
  5. Commonwealth Avenue West (Dover MRT)
  6. Clementi Road
  7. Clementi Road (Ngee Ann Polytechnic)
  8. Pan Island Expressway
  9. Toh Guan Road
  10. Jurong Gateway Road
  11. Jurong East Bus Interchange (Jurong East MRT)

  Length to Jurong East: 11.5km

  Length to Buona Vista: 13.2km

  Total length: 24.7km

  
  

  Length on PIE (towards Jurong East): 3.9km (33.9% of route)

  Length on PIE (towards Buona Vista): 3.9km (29.5% of route)

  Total length on PIE: 7.8km (31.6% of route)

  
  

  Note: to Buona Vista:

  • - exit PIE via Upper Bukit Timah Road, Jalan Jurong Kechil, Jalan Anak Bukit and Clementi Road. 
  • - enter Buona Vista Bus Terminal via Commonwealth Avenue, Holland Avenue and Holland Drive.

  

  Great suggestion, the crowds at Clementi MRT can get really terrible so good to have an alternative station for MRT pax to take bus to Clementi Rd, especially those heading from Jurong East/West. Good use of Jurong Gateway Rd to avoid the crowded section of Toh Guan Rd.

• SBS5010P

  10 Jan 15, 16:38

  Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:

  This route is exact copy of sv 45. What's the advantage? sv 45 capacity has already been beefed up with so many DDs and increase in number of buses. That should take care of the loading.

  True however i thought it could provide relief to 45.